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Post by calcio on Mar 7, 2009 22:49:39 GMT -6
he scored 45? really?cause that was never mentioned before and i know the stmartins coach
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Post by soccer345466 on Mar 8, 2009 1:06:25 GMT -6
congratulations to all who made the all baton rouge/new orleans, i mean state team.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Mar 8, 2009 1:58:34 GMT -6
Congrats to all boys who made the team.
Once again, remember... don't blame the process. Blame the participation. Boys side really lacks participation in comparison to the girls side.
Also notice this... very rarely, if ever, can you say that a player on either first or second team doesn't deserve All State. Most of the complaints are when a player is deemed to be unfairly omitted from the team.
1. Is their coach a member of the association? If not... what is the reason? 2. Did their coach (or another member coach) nominate them? 3. Did their coach turn in a ballot?
The voting participation on the boys side is embarrassing when compared to the girls side. THIS needs to change next year. Players... URGE your coach to join the association. Urge you coach to nominate deserving players from your team and district. Urge your coach to fill out their ballot by the deadline.
The process is only as good as the participation.
Stay tuned for some REALLY big announcements from the Coaches Association in the next few days!
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Post by llcard on Mar 8, 2009 9:24:14 GMT -6
who is therock? Lyons or guichard? Its not Landon Lyons... It certainly could have been.Next year Lyons can score 9 goals and 11 assists and finish on top of Episcopal records books with the MOST CAREER GOALS and MOST CAREER ASSISTS in SCHOOL History.. An may never be all metro or all state. If you look at the current leaders for Episcopal in those categories.. Well enough said. Carter Blanche Scoring 2 time all metro 1 time all state 1st team John Gaudet Assists 2 time all metro 1 time all state
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Post by rpiresofarsenal on Mar 8, 2009 11:23:00 GMT -6
yea so how come the Copeskeys didnt make all metro, but made all state, and then James Roeling from EHS gets all metro but not all state, all of them got pwned just in different ways. How could the copespkeys get all state and not all metro but james get all metro and not get all state? The copeskeys should have gotten all metro and James should have gotten all state. Metro is whack so it would seem?
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Post by soccer345466 on Mar 8, 2009 12:10:36 GMT -6
because different people vote on all baton rouge/ new orleans state team than the people who made the all metro team. The players who got pwned are the sta players. Win state last year= 1 player first team all state. Make it to the semi finals= Zero players all state, you can't tell me that that is right, not only that but st. louis didnt have 1 player deserving first team all state either? That's got to be the first time in ages that that's happened. It's an all-baton rouge new orleans team, this is ridiculous someone should come out with an all state team for the players throughout the whole state
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Post by MC on Mar 8, 2009 12:16:10 GMT -6
That's an interesting thought. I agree that the list is mostly made up of BR and Nola players. One reason for this is because last year's list was completely Anti- Baton Rouge and lacking in the Nola department. Maybe some of the coaches took last year's list into consideration and tried to fix it? I don't know, but what i do know is that the players that made the list are all very deserving.
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Post by soccer345466 on Mar 8, 2009 12:23:00 GMT -6
out of the 20 ppl who made all "state" 11/11 1st team was from n.o./b.r. out of both 1st and 2nd team 14/20 were from b.r./n.o. only 6 from different cities. There is something wrong with the system, idk how to fix it, but something is wrong with the system and players are gettin scrwd thats all im sayin
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Post by beauchenecoach on Mar 8, 2009 12:25:58 GMT -6
out of the 20 ppl who made all "state" 11/11 1st team was from n.o./b.r. out of both 1st and 2nd team 14/20 were from b.r./n.o. only 6 from different cities. There is something wrong with the system, idk how to fix it, but something is wrong with the system and players are gettin scrwd thats all im sayin This is how you fix it... Congrats to all boys who made the team. Once again, remember... don't blame the process. Blame the participation. Boys side really lacks participation in comparison to the girls side. Also notice this... very rarely, if ever, can you say that a player on either first or second team doesn't deserve All State. Most of the complaints are when a player is deemed to be unfairly omitted from the team. 1. Is their coach a member of the association? If not... what is the reason? 2. Did their coach (or another member coach) nominate them? 3. Did their coach turn in a ballot? The voting participation on the boys side is embarrassing when compared to the girls side. THIS needs to change next year. Players... URGE your coach to join the association. Urge you coach to nominate deserving players from your team and district. Urge your coach to fill out their ballot by the deadline. The process is only as good as the participation. Stay tuned for some REALLY big announcements from the Coaches Association in the next few days! Were the kids that you felt left out even nominated? Is their coach a member? If he/she is not, then why are they not members? Members nominate (often their own players, sometimes others), vote, and have a say in many issues which the coaches association will act upon... like last years push for a seeded playoffs. They will also have a huge part in the future with other great events. COACHES... please join the association next year... early in the school year. Players... please urge your coaches to join the association.
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Post by mikethetiger on Mar 8, 2009 16:23:21 GMT -6
out of the 20 ppl who made all "state" 11/11 1st team was from n.o./b.r. out of both 1st and 2nd team 14/20 were from b.r./n.o. only 6 from different cities. There is something wrong with the system, idk how to fix it, but something is wrong with the system and players are gettin scrwd thats all im sayin It's called block voting. They all hate each other during the year, but they join together to at the end of the year.
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Post by formertiger on Mar 8, 2009 16:38:34 GMT -6
I think that comment is really off-base. That list of all-state players has some of the best players in the state, regardless of city, or division for that matter. Each of those guys deserves to be all-state.
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Post by mikethetiger on Mar 8, 2009 16:45:05 GMT -6
I think that comment is really off-base. That list of all-state players has some of the best players in the state, regardless of city, or division for that matter. Each of those guys deserves to be all-state. They may deserve it, but you know the new orleans teams love to band together, as do BR teams and Shreveport teams too. You call it off base, but it's the truth
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Post by soccer345466 on Mar 8, 2009 17:38:28 GMT -6
I think that comment is really off-base. That list of all-state players has some of the best players in the state, regardless of city, or division for that matter. Each of those guys deserves to be all-state. The same could be said for the other players of the non b.r. n.o. area, there were players just as much derserving, if not more of the "all state" honors And i agree completely wit mikethetiger on this one
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Post by MC on Mar 8, 2009 17:45:00 GMT -6
The same could be said for the other players of the non b.r. n.o. area, there were players just as much derserving, if not more of the "all state" honors And i agree completely wit mikethetiger on this one Who else would you include on this list?
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Post by panther002 on Mar 8, 2009 17:50:48 GMT -6
The best teams in D3 this year were from Baton Rouge and New Orleans, right? 3 of the 4 semifinalists. And the one team who wasn't from BR or NO got blasted 4-1.
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Post by soccer345466 on Mar 8, 2009 18:06:18 GMT -6
so st. thomas gets "blasted" one time to a good team and doesnt deserve to have 1 player on 1st team all state? your logic is dumb to say the least. And last year when they won state only 1 player makes first team? sounds like bull sphit to me. Personally i think sta is better than episcopal just look at the loss column, sta-3 episcopal-10 but that's besides the point. The fact is that (and this is to answer mc's question too) that sta had a/b 2 or 3 1st teamers, one of which didnt even make 2nd team. St. louis adam france should be first team. Westminister's Timm Redd should be on the list, was on it last year where was he this yr. Northlake gets no love AT ALL, I could see #2 and kevin pence being on 2nd team. Is anyone from menard on there? And i wont even comment on who i dont think deserves first team that recieved first team......... panther002, you prove me and mikethetiger's point that baton rouge, as a community, band together and stick up for each other on this board and on the votings for all state....
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Post by biome22 on Mar 8, 2009 18:18:37 GMT -6
Who would be your mvp then? Your clearly upset with the all state team and thats understandable to some people. Overall, i think this is an excellent list. The starting 11 is stacked. Honestly, i don't know who i would switch around. My team played every top ten team this year except E.D. White, and in my opinion the only persons that should be added to either team is Zach Drouillet and Tim Redd.
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Post by rpiresofarsenal on Mar 8, 2009 18:24:17 GMT -6
soccer345466 you sound like a complete tool, and i dont think Savie being MVP is an embarrassment, in fact, saying that makes you an embarrassment, and the loss column for EHS was in the beginning 0-6 against Catholic twice and Newman twice i think, STA is good, but PERSONALLY i think EHS is better seeing as how STA lost 4-1 to the losers of state and EHS lost 3-1 to the winners of state and also the game could have been way closer... many missed opportunities for EHS but Newman was the better team for sure. but the debate is on the all state list and i think its a pretty good one...
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Post by soccer345466 on Mar 8, 2009 18:25:41 GMT -6
mvp should be either david napoli or micah peters and once again, another b.r. player defending b.r. players, let's try to look at this from an unbiased perspective.
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Post by MC on Mar 8, 2009 18:28:14 GMT -6
Soccer, you do have a good argument for Tim Redd and Adam France. I think that you are also talking about Tyler Owens for STA, who probably should have gotten some recognition on these lists, but unfortunately, good players like him do get left out. I also saw on the Division I All-State list that the format for the all-state teams changed this year. If I understand correctly, last year the All-State team had 4 openings for all-state forwards and 5 for midfield and defense. I wonder why this happened?
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