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laf u16
May 18, 2003 9:36:49 GMT -6
Post by guest 10 on May 18, 2003 9:36:49 GMT -6
any thoughts on lafreniere bringing british players JUST in time to qualify for state cup? not much of a victory is it..
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 10:50:16 GMT -6
Post by Disgusted Parent on May 19, 2003 10:50:16 GMT -6
My thoughts are what a sad day for youth sports in Louisiana. These two players totally dominated the midfield and were a major force in this championship game. Is this the direction that youth soccer is taking in Louisiana? How far will this be allowed to go? Will our future teams be composed of international players, players from other states with a few players from our own? How can anyone look these kids in the eye and justify this action? How can a club, the coaches, the players, and the player's parents feel good about this victory? It seems hollow to me. Is this LSA's example of "fair play"? This was a championship that was bought, weazled, cheated - call it whatever you want - everything but earned by the group of girls who were successful in league play. To bring in international players for prelims and to win a state title is totally lacking in values and ethics. I would rather my daughter receive a silver medal anyday of the week knowing that it was a medal earned with honest hard work and integrity from kids that represent the state they live in- not with kids recruited from overseas. Winning at all costs was certainly given a true meaning at this competition.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 10:55:23 GMT -6
Post by Rage Player on May 19, 2003 10:55:23 GMT -6
I say lets have a re-match without your recruits from overseas! Win or loose at least I would feel that the playing field was a fair one. How can you hold your head up and be proud of a state championship earned like this? Need a good scrimmage without the queen and her court?
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 12:03:04 GMT -6
Post by LSA responsibility on May 19, 2003 12:03:04 GMT -6
What about the players that got Lafreniere the #1 seed? Where was the confidence from their coach, DA and parents in the players to get them the state title?Louisiana is in sad shape when LSA allows clubs to recruit players from outside of the country solely for the purpose of winning a state title. Where were these players when all the leage games were played? Maybe a player should be required to play in a certain number of league games to participate in the state tournament. This would stop the recruiting or at least slow it down. I am sure certain clubs would find a loophole if that rule would take effect. WHERE IS LSA IN ALL OF THIS?
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 12:08:56 GMT -6
Post by lsa hiding on May 19, 2003 12:08:56 GMT -6
LSA is in hiding? It is someone else you always have to talk to. Whose responsibility is it to approve players? As long as they are not on another roster seems to be the standard line. Did LSA check to see if they were on another roster or did they just take the oh so dependable Lafreniere managers word that they were not registered on a roster. (I don't want to name anyone). What happened to the Louisiana state championship, seems to be an international championship now.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 12:44:00 GMT -6
Post by LSA not at fault on May 19, 2003 12:44:00 GMT -6
It is unfortunate that these players were allowed to play-------however it is not LSA who has jurisdiction over this,it is-- USSF. They wrote the ruling and just like with Y-League and other teams we all have to live by their rules. USSF is the governing body over all soccer in the US including our National Teams. Please write to USSF to complain and Lafreniere for again doing anything to win and not develope the players within our state.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 12:51:16 GMT -6
Post by Just Wondering on May 19, 2003 12:51:16 GMT -6
Can't the premier commissioner suggest that a rule be put in place to avoid this in the future - it is my understanding that they can create and put rules in force at any time.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 12:53:31 GMT -6
Post by Curious on May 19, 2003 12:53:31 GMT -6
I thought there was some rule dictating that players could not be brought in for specific games or tournaments? Is the state prelims and the Snickers State Cup not considered a tournament? Looked pretty specific to me!
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 12:55:11 GMT -6
Post by LSA Hiding on May 19, 2003 12:55:11 GMT -6
You didn't answer the question - and you proved my point exactly. Did anyone check to see if these players were in fact not on another roster? It is always someone's else responsibility. When are you going to stop passing the buck??
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 16:02:32 GMT -6
Post by LSA Not at fault on May 19, 2003 16:02:32 GMT -6
LSA can modify any rule that the USSF has in place. At any point LSA can create a rule making this illegal.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 18:35:02 GMT -6
Post by a player on May 19, 2003 18:35:02 GMT -6
yes they were checked out. they were put on the roster before the deadline. theyre only here fr 3 weeks then they go back home. talk about cheating your way. and i heard that there was another one on a 15 or 14 boys team??
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 20:20:28 GMT -6
Post by Outraged on May 19, 2003 20:20:28 GMT -6
It is completely ridiculous that a LOUISIANA state championship now invovles who can be recruited from anywhere in the world. I play for Rage and I'll be the first to say that we worked constantly and diligently to improve, and we did. How can you, playing for Lafreniere, sit on the bench and know that your playing time is going to girls from England who haven't attended and worked for half of what you have??? I am not whining or need pity for coming out second, and I won't even begin to say that Rage would have beaten Lafreniere without the "additions" but it would have been a much closer game. I want a re-match, and if we lose, we lose. At least then we'll know who really deserves the gold medal.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 20:25:21 GMT -6
Post by Revolted on May 19, 2003 20:25:21 GMT -6
Will the royalties be flown in once again for regionals or will Lafreniere just have to manage without?
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 21:04:37 GMT -6
Post by guestguest4 on May 19, 2003 21:04:37 GMT -6
wouldnt you think its a great opportunity to play in europe? it was a great opportunity for those girls to come over here to play both for lafreniere and the super y league team over the summer. it's a shame that most of the players on the opposing teams could not even recognize which players they were. do you really think the outcome of the games would have been any different without the girls? especially considering they did not play very much during any of the games. if you were at the semi-final or final match you would have seen it was obvious lafreniere was a better side, not because of two girls that were'nt any better than the other girls but because lafreniere wanted it more and played by far better.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 21:25:10 GMT -6
Post by Proud Rage Player on May 19, 2003 21:25:10 GMT -6
Anybody who knows the game of soccer would have realized it was obvious that numbers 28 and 3 totally controlled the midfield in the U-16 girls final game. There was no doubt in anybody's mind that they were strong players. I agree, it would be a great oppertunity for players to play in different countries. However, not during state competition. State means a lot to the players who work so hard all year long competing, training, and sacraficing in order to make it to the state finals. To all of the players who were with the teams that made it to the finals that game meant so much to them. For the European girls it was just another game. They could have cared less whether they won a Louisiana State championship or not. How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot, if you would have put all your heart into getting to state with YOUR team. I can only imagine the hell the LAF soccer club would have raised. I know that on any given day any of those Rage players would take second as long as they knew they gave all their heart and did it as a team.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 21:32:22 GMT -6
Post by Time Keeper on May 19, 2003 21:32:22 GMT -6
Obviously you must keep time as well as your values are! It was my observation that #28 did not leave the game! And #3 sat out only a very short while. Lies, Lies, Lies - when will they stop? Do you know how many people watched that game and saw these girls play? Who do you think you are fooling? You are in denial about the playtime as much as you are about the fact that recruting players from overseas to play in a state tournament is okay! What a joke! I can certainly understand now why players from New Orleans don't play for this club - no wonder you had to get players from out of the country - Do you not have a conscious? Obviously not.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 21:34:41 GMT -6
Post by Time Keeper on May 19, 2003 21:34:41 GMT -6
Obviously you must keep time as well as your values are! It was my observation that #28 did not leave the game! And #3 sat out only a very short while. Lies, Lies, Lies - when will they stop? Do you know how many people watched that game and saw these girls play? Who do you think you are fooling? You are in denial about the playtime as much as you are about the fact that recruting players from overseas to play in a state tournament is okay! What a joke! I can certainly understand now why players from New Orleans don't play for this club - no wonder you had to get players from out of the country - Do you not have a conscious? Obviously not.
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 21:44:38 GMT -6
Post by Rage Parent on May 19, 2003 21:44:38 GMT -6
You know you say the game wouldn't have been any different if these players had not been there? How do you know? Wouldn't the true test have been to play at the state tournament with your "true" team? Why did you feel the need to bring these players over for prelims and state tournament if you were so confident that your "team" would win? There were tournaments all year long for the english players to receive the American playing experience. This just doesn't make sense. This is what upsets me the most. The Rage team didn't even have an opportunity to see if they could beat you on a fair playing field? You took that opportunity away! You cheated and slithered your way to the top. Sounds like a fraidy cat to me! Meow!
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laf u16
May 19, 2003 22:27:11 GMT -6
Post by questioning rage parent on May 19, 2003 22:27:11 GMT -6
Well I thought this was a game to develop the kids ability to play soccer? What happened to team's working together to pull out a victory and learned to depend on each other for strengths as well as weaknesses? All of the reasons a parent would have their child play just got thrown out of the window. But the bigger question to ask is at what price is this victory? What have you taught 16 year old girls that winning at all costs is all that is important? I dread to see what kind of adults these people will manifest if this is what you have taught them. And where were the parents that allowed this kind of behavior to go on? As a parent I don't think I could have allowed my child to play on a team that allowed a coach or an organization to do something like this. Who is really in control here? Does the end really justify the means? I think someone or some persons need to question themselves and take a hard look at their priorities as well as what you may not be teaching your children. These children are learning how to bend the rules and they may learn to bend them around you eventually. As a parent we have obligations to our children to teach them about right and wrong etc. But they will not take us seriously if we don't practice what we preach. Think about it .
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laf u16
May 20, 2003 7:21:34 GMT -6
Post by Picture Taker on May 20, 2003 7:21:34 GMT -6
Hey Ian - would you like to see the videotape of the game to jog your memory on just how much play time these lassie's received? Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words!
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