p_malinich
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Post by p_malinich on Oct 24, 2013 18:38:14 GMT -6
We will be creating the opportunity for girls teams to report stats this year. We have 1 volunteer so far and it would be great to have at least one backup. This stats thread will exist on the girls side is primarily for hosting the link to the new Forms. Questions about stats, etc. can be addressed in the thread. Any stats entered in the thread will be ignored (or deleted) and not included in the stats spreadsheet so please follow the process and use the forms. For you stats people out there, please decide on what name you will use with each player and be consistent. Don't change Susan to Sue nor Jennifer to Jen once the season gets rolling. It will cause 2 different people to get credit (erroneously). Also, please ALWAYS go with LAST name, then FIRST name (or the data may not get picked up and credited properly). There are additional FAQ's & comments below. There are 2 different forms. 1 for Field Players and 1 for Goal Keepers. Explanations are included on each form. Click on the links to enter stats:
Where does the data go? Once entered in the Google Form (and submitted), the data will automatically appear in a Google Spreadsheet where the raw stats are visible to everyone throughout the season (click on these links to view responses). Grade & Position? In order to present complete information, you may enter the name, class/grade, and position of those players that have recorded any stat (goal, assist, goals allowed, saves) using the form at the link below. You may also enter for players that haven't yet recorded a stat (or wait until they do). Leader Scoreboard?Remember, this is our first year tracking stats on the Girls side. There will be questions and toe stubs. Please be patient. Ask when something looks odd. Help us work through it. Post in this thread to highlight any issues. Keep in mind that these stats are ONLY based on those schools that report their stats - not everyone will. Data is sorted for Field Players by "Points" (1 for a goal and 0.5 for an assist). Data is sorted for Goal Keepers by SSPGA (shots saved / goals allowed). The table allows you to filter by team, division, etc. You can also sort in a number of ways. Anyone with at least one goal allowed or one save will be included. NOTE: Leader Boards updated thru end of Playoffs.
FAQ's and other comments
* Entering stats * Last name and THEN First name * Separate with a SPACE after the COMMA * Be 100% consistent in spellings * ANY differences in names are assumed to be 2 different people * Zero's are not necessary to enter (same as blank) * Errors should be PM'd to me immediately (for easiest correction)
* Use of filters * Select just your team or any team * Review just a particular Division or Grade
* Shootouts * Shootout Goals and Saves do NOT count towards stats * Penalty Kicks during a game DO count
* Scrimmages? * Game results and stat results from Scrimmages do NOT count
* Flow of information? 1) Fill out a form 2) Shows up immediately on Response Summary 3) Periodically copied from Google Docs & run thru Excel 4) Published to Leader Boards
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Post by p_malinich on Dec 11, 2013 7:22:01 GMT -6
As a reminder to everyone, please make sure you are entering a valid LA Prep userid. If not, you run the risk of the data being deleted if questions cannot be resolved because we are unable to contact you. The stats may very well be right, but we need to be able to dialogue with the source as questions arise (which has happened in several situations already this year).
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Post by NutMeg on Dec 12, 2013 14:47:48 GMT -6
Can you please define a goalie save for statistical purposes.... Sorry in advance for my ignorance or if its already been defined and I missed it :-) I keeper save should be defined as the following. A save is whenever a keeper stops the ball from going directly into the goal. Had she not stopped/changed the movement of the ball from a goal being scored. If a keeper collects a ball off a cross not heading directly into the goal it is NOT a save.
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Post by crodaddy on Dec 12, 2013 19:41:30 GMT -6
I would also add intent to the mix. I do not award a save on long passes in or that one hop to the keeper that would go in if the keepers not there. these plays do not really require any effort on the goalie to make the save. I would list them as a shot attemp not a shot on goal. same thing on thru balls that are passes that the keeper picks up at the top of the box. they could go in if the goalie misses them but almost never happens The only one I ever question is in a brake away when the keeper charges out - slides & takes the ball off the shooters foot clearly a scoring oppertunity but no shot was really taken. great defensive play or a save would like to hear your thoughts.
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Post by miraddydad on Dec 15, 2013 11:31:34 GMT -6
Crodaddy, I agree regarding "slides & takes the ball off the shooters foot clearly a scoring oppertunity but no shot was really taken". I'd call that a save if it clearly denied a scoring opportunity. But the official ruling might view differently. I don't know.
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Post by p_malinich on Dec 15, 2013 20:45:34 GMT -6
This thread has been thinned out & FAQ/comment section added in top of thread.
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Post by jmlrvp50 on Dec 16, 2013 16:41:29 GMT -6
Could u please double cjeck on updates i know our stats from kast week have not been factored in. Btw i think this is a great tool for the girls. Thank.u for creating it
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Post by p_malinich on Dec 16, 2013 17:07:48 GMT -6
Correction. Field players are updated. Goalies are not. Again thanks You are correct. My error. Too many files open at once & rushing to get out the door this a.m. I must've copied the data to the wrong version of the file. As soon as I get live copy back from barnacle, I will update keepers as well. My apologies. I will take the opportunity to ask EVERYONE to take their time when entering data on the forms. I had several today that I needed to follow-up to resolve. An error caught immediately is fixed relatively easily. If it's AFTER publishing, then it's a pain & creates additional work & risks additional errors.
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Post by p_malinich on Dec 16, 2013 17:22:03 GMT -6
Again i want to reiterate i was not complainig was just reviewing and i think it is a great thing. We appreciate all u do Didn't take it that way. Part of my audit process is the number of eyes on it so I don't sweat any detail too much. My coaching point to everyone was coming even without your question (I just didn't have time to write it before I left this a.m.) It's all good!
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Post by jmlrvp50 on Dec 23, 2013 15:32:02 GMT -6
Will the goal keeper boards be updated today?
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Post by jmlrvp50 on Dec 23, 2013 15:40:26 GMT -6
How can i make a correction. It was my error as our keeper is listed in three different places. Shoul i redo the last two games?
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Post by jmlrvp50 on Dec 23, 2013 15:53:30 GMT -6
I did mot use capital.letters in the name so i resubmitted last two games. O know it will update next week
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Post by p_malinich on Dec 23, 2013 18:27:15 GMT -6
Will the goal keeper boards be updated today? They were done at same time as field players. Are you noticing an error?
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Post by p_malinich on Dec 23, 2013 18:29:18 GMT -6
I did mot use capital.letters in the name so i resubmitted last two games. O know it will update next week That works. I'll delete the initial 2 posts when we process again. Thanks for doing the legwork to figure out the problem and to do what you could to fix it.
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Post by p_malinich on Dec 23, 2013 18:41:18 GMT -6
I did mot use capital.letters in the name so i resubmitted last two games. O know it will update next week That works. I'll delete the initial 2 posts when we process again. Thanks for doing the legwork to figure out the problem and to do what you could to fix it. Upper or lower case doesn't matter. In one case, you omitted the space (which does matter) and in the other case, you used a period instead of a comma (which also matters). Thanks again for re-submitting!
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 17, 2014 16:36:02 GMT -6
Here's what I'm thinking about stats.
I'm toying with the idea of publishing more frequently - 2 maybe 3 times per week. I know we're in District Play and your players like to see their names in lights.
The cost of that will be that errors will probably only get corrected every 7-10 days. That's where my time gets eaten up. Going through and fixing errors after Leader Boards have been published. The ones you catch right away are no big deal. Continue to PM those and I'll correct. But after Leader Boards are published, those will linger a week to a week and a half.
That way I'm not punishing anyone who is error-free (or double-checking their work). I'm also not punishing me. I can probably do the error-free updates in about 20-30 minutes. With errors, it expands to 2 hours.
Any thoughts?
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Post by jmlrvp50 on Jan 17, 2014 16:52:47 GMT -6
Once a week is fine
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Post by gowest225 on Jan 22, 2014 22:58:01 GMT -6
How do you add the Class and Position for players already listed on the board but have "?" for Class and/or Position?
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 22, 2014 23:01:39 GMT -6
How do you add the Class and Position for players already listed on the board but have "?" for Class and/or Position? Use the Player Info form at the top of this thread. You can do 3 players on each form. That should over-ride the ?'s the next time we publish.
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 27, 2014 13:38:36 GMT -6
Girls Leader Boards updated with Stats reported thru 1:30 pm on 1/27.
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