2013-2014 LHSSCA Rankings (Week 2)

[beauchenecoach]

2013-2014 Louisiana High School Soccer Coaches Association Boys Soccer Rankings 
Week 2 EDITION

December 1, 2013


For immediate press release:
(Number in brackets indicates first place votes.)

NOTE: record listed for each team is their official LHSAA record and does not count games against out of state teams, JV or B Teams, and/or any other non LHSAA teams.


Division I

1. Jesuit (6) 146 (1-0-0) (W 4-0 Ben Franklin)
2. St. Paul's (4) 144 (4-0-0) (W 7-0 Hammond, W 4-0 Mandeville)
3. Lafayette 130 (3-0-0)
4. Brother Martin 116 (1-0-0)
5. Acadiana 114 (6-2-0) (W 3-1 Teurlings) (L 0-3 St. Louis)
6. Catholic BR 94 (5-0-1) (W 2-0 Baton Rouge, W 4-1 St. Amant)
7. Northshore 91 (6-2-2) (W 6-0 Ponchatoula)(L 1-2 Fontainebleau)
8. Mandeville 66 (7-1-2) (W 3-0 Fontainebleau)(L 0-4 St Paul's)
8. Grace King 66 (8-1-2) (W 7-0 John Ehret, W 6-0 Higgins, W 5-0 Holy Cross)
10. Baton Rouge 62 (4-4-0) (L 0-2 Catholic BR)(W 5-0 Woodlawn)

Others Receiving Votes

St. Amant 38 (5-2-3) (W 2-0 East Ascension) (L 1-4 Catholic BR)
Destrehan 37 (5-2-2) (W 7-0 Terrebonne)(L 0-1 Hanhnville)
Sulphur 36 (7-1-2) (D 2-2 St. Louis) (W 2-0 Barbe, W 3-0 Carencro, W 2-0 New Iberia)
Caddo Magnet 24 (3-1-0) (W 3-2 Loyola) (L 1-2 Capt. Shreve)
East Ascension 14(4-2-1) (L 0-2 St. Amant) (W 2-0 Dutchtown)
Dutchtown 12 (4-2-0) (W 1-0 McKinley) (L 0-2 East Ascension)
New Iberia 5 (7-4-0) (W 8-1 Episcopal Acadiana, W 2-1 Barbe, W 3-0 Carencro) (L 0-2 Sulphur)
Capt. Shreve 5 (5-0-0) (W 6-0 Haughton, W 2-1 Caddo Magnet)





Division II

1. Beau Chene (10) 150 (6-2-2) (W 11-1 Opelousas Catholic, W 1-0 Menard, W 3-0 Newman) (D 2-2 East Jefferson) (L 0-2 Northlake Christian)
2. St. Thomas More 136  (3-3-1) (L 0-2 E.D. White, L 1-2 Northlake Christian) (W 1-0 Loyola, W 1-0 E.D. White)
3. Bolton 124 (5-0-2) (W 2-0 Menard, W 2-1 Teurlings, W 2-0 Episcopal BR, W 2-0 St. Michael) (D 0-0 St. Louis, D 1-1 Northlake Christian)
4. Teurlings 122 (3-6-0) (L 1-3 Acadiana, L 1-2 Bolton, L 0-2 Episcopal BR) (W 2-0 St. Michael)
5. Lakeshore 110 (4-3-2) (L 0-3 Northlake Christian, L 0-2 Vandebilt) (D 2-2 St. Louis) (W 1-0 University)
6. East Jefferson 94 (4-1-3) (W 5-1 Morgan City) (D 2-2 Beau Chene, D 2-2 Newman, D 1-1 Menard)
7. Vandebilt 92 (4-2-3) (D 1-1 Rummel, D 1-1 University) (W 2-0 Lakeshore) (L 0-1 St. Louis)
8. E.D. White 89 (4-4-0) (W 2-0 St. Thomas More) (L 0-1 Northlake Christian, L 0-1 St. Thomas More, L 1-2 Loyola)
9. Loyola Prep 64 (3-3-1) (L 2-3 Caddo Magnet, L 0-1 St. Thomas More, L 1-3 Northlake Christian) (W 3-1 St. Frederick's, W 2-1 E.D. White)
9. Ben Franklin 64 (2-4-0) (L 0-4 Jesuit)

Others Receiving Votes

Neville 40 (3-1-1) (W 12-3 Ouachita Christian, W 5-1 Catholic PC) (D 2-2 North Vermillion)
Lutcher 35 (7-0-2) (W 5-0 De La Salle, W 4-1 Tara, W 1-0 Glenmora, W 2-0 Episcopal Acadiana, W 1-0 Opelousas) (D 0-0 Dunham)
St. Michael 35 (6-6-3) (W 8-1 Belaire, W 2-0 Belle Chasse, W 3-0 Plaquemine, W 1-0 Episcopal BR) (L 0-2 Teurlings, L 0-2 Bolton)
Morgan City 24 (5-3-1) (L 1-5 East Jefferson, L 2-3 Westminster) (W 3-0 Opelousas Catholic, W 1-0 Country Day, W 2-1 DeRidder)
Benton 7 (5-0-1) (W 3-1 West Monroe, W 7-0 Haughton,W 2-0 Haughton) (D 1-1 Airline)
Leesville 5 (4-0-1) (D 1-1 Menard)(W 9-0 Sam Houston, W 5-1 Pineville)
DeRidder 4 (3-6-2) (D 1-1 Barbe, D 1-1 Opelousas Catholic) (W 2-1 Country Day) (L 1-2 Morgan City)
Opelousas 4 (2-4-0) (L 0-4 Westminster, L 1-2 Episcopal Acadiana, L 0-1 Lutcher) (W 1-0 Glenmora)
North DeSoto 1 (2-0-0) (W 6-2 Minden)





Division III

1. Episcopal BR (6) 145 (4-2-0) (W 3-1 Catholic New Iberia, W 2-0 Teurlings) (L 0-1 St. Michael, L 0-2 Bolton)
2. St. Louis (3) 140 (4-0-3) (D 2-2 Sulphur, D 2-2 Lakeshore, D 0-0 Bolton) (W 3-0 Acadiana, W 2-0 University, W 1-0 Vandebilt)
3. Northlake Christian (1) 130 (7-0-2) (W 3-0 Lakeshore, W 1-0 E.D. White, W 3-1 Loyola, W 2-1 St. Thomas More, W 2-0 Beau Chene) (D 1-1 Bolton)
4. Newman 123 (3-1-2) (W 1-0 Menard) (D 2-2 East Jefferson) (L 0-3 Beau Chene)
5. Lusher 106 (4-2-0)(W 6-0 Rummel)
5. University 106 (2-2-1) (W 2-1 Denham Springs) (L 0-2 St. Louis, L 0-1 Lakeshore) (D 1-1 Vandebilt)
7. Menard 87 (3-4-4) (D 1-1 Leesville, D 1-1 East Jefferson) (L 0-2 Bolton, L 0-1 Newman, L 0-1 Beau Chene)
8. Catholic New Iberia 74 (3-3-0) (L 1-3 Episcopal BR)
8. Westminster 70 (6-0-0) (W 4-0 Opelousas, W 2-0 Rapides, W 8-0 St. Martin's, W 4-0 De La Salle, W 3-2 Morgan City)
10. Parkview Baptist 59 (2-1-0) (L 1-2 Runnels)

Others Receiving Votes

Country Day 55 (1-2-0) (L 1-2 DeRidder, L 0-1 Morgan City) (W 2-1 Opelousas Catholic)
Dunham 28 (4-1-1) (W 4-1 Catholic PC, W 2-0 North Vermillion, W 1-0 Neville) (D 0-0 Lutcher)
St. Thomas Aquinas 25 (0-1-0)
Haynes 16 (0-2-3) (D 0-0 St Charles)
Episcopal Acadiana 11 (2-4-2) (L 1-8 New Iberia, L 0-2 Lutcher) (W 2-1 Opelousas, W 1-0 Glenmora)
North Vermillion 9 (2-1-1) (D 2-2 Neville) (L 0-2 Dunham) (W 5-1 Catholic PC)
Calvary Baptist 9 (0-0-0)
Pope John Paul 6 (2-4-0) (L 3-5 Pearl River) (W 8-0 Luthern)
Rapides 1 (3-4-2) (D 1-1 Opelousas Catholic, D 1-1 St. Martin's) (L 0-2 Westminster) (W 5-0 De La Salle)


This poll has been conducted by the LHSSCA, the official coaches association of Louisiana High School Soccer. Each Division was voted on by 10 members who were equally chosen from around the state. Coaches voted on their top 15 to allow for more teams receiving votes. This is to help with coaches' playoff seeding at the end of the season. All inquiries should be directed to www.lhssca.org

[futbolfiend]

Ok I know its early in the season to do to much cheerleading. I'd just like to throw it out there that Shreve has dropped points in every poll since preseason. People might see a lopsided score against Haughton and think ..so what..? for the record, Haughton had the top two leading scorers in NW LA going into Monday's game with 15 goals between them. The win against Magnet speaks for itself. This year there isn't really the mix up of S LA vs. N LA teams (in tourneys) to gauge relative strength (a trend that will only increase as we go to straight PR soon). Honestly, I haven't seen enough games yet to get a feel where Shreve is this year,

[Deleted]

Shreve deserves a higher ranking. period. Instead they seem to be dropping. I'm not suggesting a top 10 rating, but definitely between 12 and 14th. 1 of 4 teams with an undefeated record?

Strength of schedule may be arguable. But that's also highly debatable for any d1 team outside of the top 2-3 districts.

[Deleted]

How is Calvary receiving votes in D2 and hasn't played a single game yet? I'm not picking on them, but this reinforces the argument that teams are often given credit for last year's performance (or reputation) rather than their current body of work.

[Deleted]

Dec 5, 2013 11:47:47 GMT -6 @hall97 said:

How is Calvary receiving votes in D2 and hasn't played a single game yet? I'm not picking on them, but this reinforces the argument that teams are often given credit for last year's performance (or reputation) rather than their current body of work.

Correction: Calvary receiving votes in d3 not d2.

[Boomer]

Dec 5, 2013 11:47:47 GMT -6 @hall97 said:

How is Calvary receiving votes in D2 and hasn't played a single game yet? I'm not picking on them, but this reinforces the argument that teams are often given credit for last year's performance (or reputation) rather than their current body of work.

Cavalry's football team is playing in the State "Championship" of D-III Dec. 14.  They cannot field a representative soccer team until the football season finally ends. 

This same issue has also caused odd performance question with quite a few traditionally smaller school good soccer programs.  For instance the following schools with established soccer programs were still playing football on Nov. 29, and many are still playing this week...  Note that the most affected schools are smaller schools who depend on multi-sport athletes. 

Vermillion Catholic,
Country Day,
St. Frederick,
Episcopal BR,
St. Thomas Aquinas,
Pope John Paul,
Hannan,
Northlake Christian,
Catholic N.I.
Opelousas Catholic,
Calvary Baptist,
St. Charles Catholic,
St. Thomas Moore,
Evangel,
Parkview Baptist,
Teurlings,
University,
Rummel,
Holy Cross,
etc. 

This is going to be an issue in the future, especially for early-season tournaments, polls, even division or district results that affect playoff eligibility.  As you can see above, a significant percentage of the stronger D-III soccer programs could have been affected by the continuation of football until after Thanksgiving.  

When the LHSAA added "select" divisions in football, they also inadvertently added a lot of unknowns about unknown smaller school soccer programs which will now stay unknown for a much more unknown periord of time. 

[Futbolmaniac]

Dec 5, 2013 8:34:33 GMT -6 futbolfiend said:

Ok I know its early in the season to do to much cheerleading. I'd just like to throw it out there that Shreve has dropped points in every poll since preseason. People might see a lopsided score against Haughton and think ..so what..? for the record, Haughton had the top two leading scorers in NW LA going into Monday's game with 15 goals between them. The win against Magnet speaks for itself. This year there isn't really the mix up of S LA vs. N LA teams (in tourneys) to gauge relative strength (a trend that will only increase as we go to straight PR soon). Honestly, I haven't seen enough games yet to get a feel where Shreve is this year,

Not to take anything away from Haughton's leading scorers of 15 goals (Kade Schuff is a very good foward). All 15 were goals vs Southwood who gives up an average of 8 goals per game & Bossier (D3) gives up an average of 5 goals per game. I would think the 2-1 victory over Caddo is more legit...even though a Top State Def/Mid was missing...still a legit victory. N LA should play more S LA teams. That will come later this month with Carenco & St.Louis Tourneys for Caddo. Not sure on Shreve's schedule? Carenco tourney will also be hard to gauge since it falls on an ACT Testing date, there will be players missing. Shreve still have some tough games ahead vs Airline x2, Benton, Loyola and Magnet again. Pretty sure Shreve will move up in week 3 polls.

[squeak11]

Dec 5, 2013 11:55:39 GMT -6 Boomer said:

Dec 5, 2013 11:47:47 GMT -6 @hall97 said:

How is Calvary receiving votes in D2 and hasn't played a single game yet? I'm not picking on them, but this reinforces the argument that teams are often given credit for last year's performance (or reputation) rather than their current body of work.

Cavalry's football team is playing in the State "Championship" of D-III Dec. 14.  They cannot field a representative soccer team until the football season finally ends. 

This same issue has also caused odd performance question with quite a few traditionally smaller school good soccer programs.  For instance the following schools with established soccer programs were still playing football on Nov. 29, and many are still playing this week...  Note that the most affected schools are smaller schools who depend on multi-sport athletes. 

Vermillion Catholic,
Country Day,
St. Frederick,
Episcopal BR,
St. Thomas Aquinas,
Pope John Paul,
Hannan,
Northlake Christian,
Catholic N.I.
Opelousas Catholic,
Calvary Baptist,
St. Charles Catholic,
St. Thomas Moore,
Evangel,
Parkview Baptist,
Teurlings,
University,
Rummel,
Holy Cross,
etc. 

This is going to be an issue in the future.  There could be as many as 8-10 soccer programs who are still playing football in mid December.  As you can see above, a large percentage of the stronger D-III organized soccer programs could be affected by the continuation of football until after Thanksgiving.  This adding of the "select" divisions in football means a lot of unknowns about unknown smaller school soccer programs stay unknown for a much more unknown periord of time. 

They were affected by football but I'm pretty sure half those teams you listed are no longer in the football playoffs.

[rlb2024]

The final score of the Mandeville-Fontainebleau game was 3-0, not 5-0 as shown above.

[Boomer]

[squeak11]

Dec 5, 2013 12:23:04 GMT -6 rlb2024 said:

The final score of the Mandeville-Fontainebleau game was 3-0, not 5-0 as shown above.

Thanks, fixed it

[loJic]

If we were to only integrate the brilliance of my *cough*new league idea*cough* then rankings wouldn't really matter Just sayin'

[kevin]

Dec 5, 2013 11:55:39 GMT -6 Boomer said:

When the LHSAA added "select" divisions in football, they also inadvertently added a lot of unknowns about unknown smaller school soccer programs which will now stay unknown for a much more unknown periord of time. 

Donald Rumsfeld would approve of your sentence.

[futbolfiend]

Dec 5, 2013 12:21:16 GMT -6 Futbolmaniac said:

Dec 5, 2013 8:34:33 GMT -6 futbolfiend said:

Ok I know its early in the season to do to much cheerleading. I'd just like to throw it out there that Shreve has dropped points in every poll since preseason. People might see a lopsided score against Haughton and think ..so what..? for the record, Haughton had the top two leading scorers in NW LA going into Monday's game with 15 goals between them. The win against Magnet speaks for itself. This year there isn't really the mix up of S LA vs. N LA teams (in tourneys) to gauge relative strength (a trend that will only increase as we go to straight PR soon). Honestly, I haven't seen enough games yet to get a feel where Shreve is this year,

Not to take anything away from Haughton's leading scorers of 15 goals (Kade Schuff is a very good foward). All 15 were goals vs Southwood who gives up an average of 8 goals per game & Bossier (D3) gives up an average of 5 goals per game. I would think the 2-1 victory over Caddo is more legit...even though a Top State Def/Mid was missing...still a legit victory. N LA should play more S LA teams. That will come later this month with Carenco & St.Louis Tourneys for Caddo. Not sure on Shreve's schedule? Carenco tourney will also be hard to gauge since it falls on an ACT Testing date, there will be players missing. Shreve still have some tough games ahead vs Airline x2, Benton, Loyola and Magnet again. Pretty sure Shreve will move up in week 3 polls.

i hadn't looked past the NWLA High school stats page, your right and little inference should be taken from them being shut out

[ajassemidis]

Ruston should get a ranking. We have only one loss this season and it was against Airline in which we did not have all of our players.  Two weeks later, when we got all of our players back, we drew with Airline 0-0.  We beat St. Frederick twice, 3-0 in scrimmage and 4-0 in a regular game.  We also beat West Ouachita 4-0. I am not saying Ruston should be in top 10 but we should have at least a ranking.  We are a much better team than we were last year.

[FcBarcelona]

Mandeville lost to St. Pauls...

[tikitaka]

Tuerlings had a bad week, lakeshore lost a few games. This means E.J. should be moving on well in these week rankings.
Also acadiana mandeville and northshore had some ugly losses. Are they still going to be ranked that high?