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Post by Antimatter on Apr 10, 2014 13:39:48 GMT -6
The answer in football was easy. Have a statewide premiere American football league. You can be elevated or relegated from the league by the LHSAA or apply to join. Evangel and Curtis would of course be there. Other schools would WANT to be a part of this because it would be a money machine and attract more college coaches to games that any other league.
It would take the football factories out of the other divisions and make them more competitive for the other schools.
As for the split in other sports, it is just nonsense. I do think most private schools will bolt for a new association and here is why. The ones that might want to stay in LHSAA would still not be mixed with the non select schools as that would just be blatant hypocrisy by the LHSAA. Therefor, the travel/expense dilemma in the new association would also be present in the LHSAA.
Basically, two schools to whom American football is God may have ended up forever changing the landscape of high school sports in Louisiana for the worse.
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Post by methuselah on Apr 10, 2014 14:06:11 GMT -6
The answer in football was easy. Have a statewide premiere American football league. You can be elevated or relegated from the league by the LHSAA or apply to join. Evangel and Curtis would of course be there. Other schools would WANT to be a part of this because it would be a money machine and attract more college coaches to games that any other league. It would take the football factories out of the other divisions and make them more competitive for the other schools. As for the split in other sports, it is just nonsense. I do think most private schools will bolt for a new association and here is why. The ones that might want to stay in LHSAA would still not be mixed with the non select schools as that would just be blatant hypocrisy by the LHSAA. Therefor, the travel/expense dilemma in the new association would also be present in the LHSAA.
Basically, two schools to whom American football is God may have ended up forever changing the landscape of high school sports in Louisiana for the worse. But if the split is just for playoffs I don't think it would affect travel. Isn't the playoff structure now such that teams have to travel anyway because seedings and thus pair ups are not based on geography anyway.
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Post by loJic on Apr 10, 2014 14:07:40 GMT -6
You can be elevated or relegated from the league by the LHSAA or apply to join. pffftt.....not in good ole 'Murica. Promotion/Relegation?.....take that sissy concept back to where dey go sissy kicking dem balls around and flopping like a buncha wimps. This is 'Murica boy, we don't need yer logic. In all seriousness, this is far too logical and would not be considered for Futbol Americano.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Apr 10, 2014 14:53:59 GMT -6
Coach Chad I don't disagree with you, but there is one point I would like to make regarding..."The one big flaw with the private school association is not all private schools will leave due to travel concerns and other items.".... IMO, The fact that not all privates would leave lhsaa is just as big a problem for lhsaa as it would be for any new private association. With only a small number of privates remaining in lhsaa, what would lhsaa do with them then. There quite likely would not be enough of them that remained in lhsaa to effectively have the split as it existed in football this past season. Yet, the big football factories, which are really at the root of this problem, would most likely be within the number that remained in the lhsaa. LHSAA would really be in a quandary then! Admittedly I don't know and/or understand everything involved with this situation, but based on the scenario described (some privates remaining in lhsaa), I think this would be a likely development that lhsaa would have to deal with. That is the one thing I alluded to as I haven't heard what would happen on that scenario. I do know there are parties from LHSAA, public schools and private schools working on dual constitutions to keep everything under LHSAA. I have heard that this doesn't matter from some private school reps and they are gone if post season split happens and I have heard that some other private schools aren't planning on leaving, even a few that LOVE the post season split in football. Don't know of its all or none type of thing or not in regards to a new association forming. The facts are... The post season split will happen in all sports most likely and the parties are trying to keep the private schools in the LHSAA. That's the goings on right now.
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Post by warrior16 on Apr 10, 2014 20:47:54 GMT -6
I don't even want to imagine us being dumped in a Baton Rouge select super-district with teams like Catholic, Episcopal, Parkview, University, Dunham, etc...In our 30-year history, St. Michael has not won a single playoff game in football, and that streak would most definitely continue against those teams.
Sure it would be cool for soccer fans to see so many good programs put into one massive district, but just imagine how brutal that schedule would be for all teams involved. You can argue that the "Catholic League" district in New Orleans is kind of already like that, but that district is the way it is because those schools just happen to be Catholic schools with similar enrollments in the same part of the state, not because they chose not to be a part of the LHSAA.
And if private and public schools were to play in separate organizations, I fear that would ruin many rivalries, such as the one between St. Michael and Lutcher.
Football is driving this ship, so I think the change is inevitable, unfortunately, but even as a private school player/student, I do not support a split AT ALL. This is all about money ultimately. Ask any private school athlete from any sport, and I would bet that 99% of them would also oppose the split.
I fear within the next few years, our schedules from this past season will seem almost unrecognizable, and it really is a shame.
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Post by newosoccerfan on Jun 5, 2014 9:10:45 GMT -6
Here is a link to the issues at the LHSAA Committee Meetings today. theadvocate.com/sports/preps/9362726-123/key-issues-on-lhsaa-summer. Please note the quote highlighted in the article is 'an all sports split will pass in January'. What the article doesn't say is plenty of select schools, especially Catholic schools, will not stay in a split LHSAA and, once a critical mass of select schools go, they all will go. There aren't enough select schools to have a split LHSAA and an independent organization for other select schools. So many schools will have their decision made for them by the larger group of select schools. The handwriting was really on the wall when the football playoffs split passed and the public school principals were cheering like 'we stuck it to you private schools'. That's when private school principals started talking separate organization, and I don't see anything to change the forces at work here. (Not releasing the all sports split survey, or the survey showing a sentiment for an all sports split, will be another confirming fact.) There will be a separate select school athletics organization. Again, it is sad news I report. Barring a miracle decision to keep the status quo, the entire landscape of high school athletics is about to change forever. Sadly, we will likely look back on these days fondly as the last of the golden age of La HS athletics. NewO
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jun 5, 2014 10:40:01 GMT -6
Here is a link to the issues at the LHSAA Committee Meetings today. theadvocate.com/sports/preps/9362726-123/key-issues-on-lhsaa-summer. Please note the quote highlighted in the article is 'an all sports split will pass in January'. What the article doesn't say is plenty of select schools, especially Catholic schools, will not stay in a split LHSAA and, once a critical mass of select schools go, they all will go. There aren't enough select schools to have a split LHSAA and an independent organization for other select schools. So many schools will have their decision made for them by the larger group of select schools. The handwriting was really on the wall when the football playoffs split passed and the public school principals were cheering like 'we stuck it to you private schools'. That's when private school principals started talking separate organization, and I don't see anything to change the forces at work here. (Not releasing the all sports split survey, or the survey showing a sentiment for an all sports split, will be another confirming fact.) There will be a separate select school athletics organization. Again, it is sad news I report. Barring a miracle decision to keep the status quo, the entire landscape of high school athletics is about to change forever. Sadly, we will likely look back on these days fondly as the last of the golden age of La HS athletics. NewO I am pretty certain your doomsday scenario is limited to less than 25-30 schools. The survey may show more than that number, but a lot of it will be posturing. The split is not the end of the world and in fact, more private schools principals are for it now than during the original vote. This would have passed easily in January, but it was tabled to allow private schools against it to work out details to stay in LHSAA. That is the process that has been happening since January. Even the article stated Principal Mike Boyer from Teurlings is presenting the plan from the private schools to keep both under the LHSAA umbrella. That sentence says enough to know that the LHSAA will still have private schools under their umbrella. But yes, the playoff split is happening after this season and beginning with the 2015-16 season. Your doomsday scenario may be reflecting opinions from your area, but your area is one of the few that could survive with private schools only playing each other in every sport all of the time. And will all private schools join that cause? I am not hearing any doomsday scenarios anymore for the rest of the state in general. Of course I could be wrong... But I am fairly certain that there will be two constitutions under the LHSAA (select and non select) and split playoffs, and everyone can still play everyone In The LHSAA.
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Jun 5, 2014 10:49:00 GMT -6
There is no way that the few private schools in northeast Louisiana will be in favor of breaking away from LHSAA. That would greatly reduce the number of local schools which they can play. And, my understanding is that they are now in favor of the split.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jun 5, 2014 10:52:54 GMT -6
There is no way that the few private schools in northeast Louisiana will be in favor of breaking away from LHSAA. That would greatly reduce the number of local schools which they can play. And, my understanding is that they are now in favor of the split. This is really the latest information I have also... And it's not just the north that feels that way. I could be wrong... But hearsay and rumors are telling me the same thing.
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Post by kevin on Jun 5, 2014 11:17:36 GMT -6
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Post by newosoccerfan on Jun 7, 2014 8:27:29 GMT -6
The LHSAA Executive Committee just came out in favor of the status quo, no additional split championships. theadvocate.com/sports/preps/9381640-123/executive-committee-wants-status-quoWhy would they do that? The only thing I can think of is they saw the surveys showing a preference for a split in all sports, know it will mean a separate non-select school organization, and believe the support level for the all sports split has at the least the possibility of being changed prior to the vote in January. Other thoughts? NewO
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