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Post by soccerdad23 on Dec 8, 2014 18:07:12 GMT -6
This is the DII (IMO)
1) BEN FRANKLIN..#1 in coaches poll, BF will be hard pressed to be beat in DII...but they CAN get beat! they do have weaknesses and sometimes play very sloppy. Fortunately for them they usually have enough horses to overcome the sloppy play at this level.
2) ST THOMAS MORE...#4 in coaches poll...I like their body of work so far...wins against DI St Joseph and Lafayette, tied Fountain Bleu and lost to Dominican...key wins against Lakeshore and Vandy in DII
3) LOYOLA...#2 in coaches poll...yes they are undefeated and they have two good DII wins against Lakeshore and Teurlings...their other wins im not so sure about the opponents so I give the nod the STM.
4) VANDEBILT ...#3 in coaches poll...Seems they have had a tougher schedule than Teurlings and with some good results..losses to Dominican, STM, and St Joes..good win against ED White
5) ED WHITE...#6 in coaches poll...if not for loss to Vandy I would have had them 4..nice win against Dominican...look to be pretty tough and are building off last years success
6) TEURLINGS...#7 in coaches poll...I just don't see enough good wins from them yet
7) LAKESHORE...#5 in coaches poll...waaaayyy too many losses right now, even though they are to pretty good teams
8) LUTCHER...not ranked in coaches poll... 9) NEVILLE...#8 in coaches poll 10) URSULINE...#9 in coaches poll
That's the way I see it in DII....feel free to post your own! :-)
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Post by archangel on Dec 8, 2014 18:47:06 GMT -6
I have to disagree. I don't think BF should be #1. I think they should be higher. They are on a different level than everybody else. On the next level, STM, Vandy and Loyola are pretty close. I can see any of them beating the other.
BF main competition is going to be BF. Everybody they play is going to be up for them, so BF will have to stay focused for every game.
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Post by Sleeper on Dec 8, 2014 20:21:39 GMT -6
Ben Franklin is favorite at 1 I would move Loyola prep up to number 2. St Thomas Moore to 3 Vandy 4 looks like the have trouble scoring not to productive on scoreboard like past their teams ED white ..5 ..beat Dominican, tied a very good scared heart team, lost to Lutcher on score board, but out shot them, lost vandy 2-0 early on with 3 starters out. Still has a brutal schedule ... mt Carmel, mandeville, Ben Franklin, Ursuline, vandy twice, Lutcher, Teurlings 6 still have to see them Lakeshore7 move up soon with a few key wins Ursuline 8 will have tough week with vandy and EDW but will be ready in February don't count old Winston out Neville 9 ?? not much on them yet Lutcher 10 key win over EDW,
Should be a good start , will have to see as the season progress
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Post by breakingdad on Dec 9, 2014 22:02:45 GMT -6
Lakeshore is the biggest head scratcher in D2 right now. They start 5 seniors and 3 to 4 juniors normally. These players are talented, yet results so far this year are startling, and not in a good way. They may be headed out of the top 10 after losing 2-0 tonight to Mandeville, a team that did not look like a juggernaut themselves.
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Post by Ronaldinho on Dec 9, 2014 23:02:57 GMT -6
Lakeshore is the biggest head scratcher in D2 right now. They start 5 seniors and 3 to 4 juniors normally. These players are talented, yet results so far this year are startling, and not in a good way. They may be headed out of the top 10 after losing 2-0 tonight to Mandeville, a team that did not look like a juggernaut themselves. While I agree that Lakeshore needs to prove they can beat a contender, isn't Mandeville one of the best teams in the state? Ranked #2 in DI, not exactly a reason to drop Lakeshore out of the top 10.
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Post by copakid14 on Dec 9, 2014 23:41:45 GMT -6
Pretty sure Lakeshore has been dealing with injuries among other things. I don't think they have had their starting roster on the field at the same time in a long time. They have played a brutal schedule in a short period of time and need to get healthy. I think that they will be just fine come January and playoff time. No way they should not be in the top 10.
I for one am glad that my argument doesn't really matter anymore in regards to playoff seeding due to power rankings. I think we will learn more about some of these teams after the Mandeville tournament. My girls are 11-0 and have scored 45 goals and allowed 1, we can't do much more at this point. I'm most proud that my girls don't care if they get respect or not...they are focused and on a mission.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 6:41:15 GMT -6
1 Ben Franklin .. Hands down #1 2 Loyola prep.... No loses and gave up 1 goal all year 3. STM - big win over vandy 4, Vandy- appears to be sluggish and should continue to improve 5. Teurlings-- still needs a big win 6, lakeshore- very talented will be there once healthy 7. EDW -- up and down depending on competition 8. Neville-- always ends up in top 8 9. Lutcher- good team , just won't score a lot 10 Ursuline - good Stryker, plays 7-8 on defense looks for counter attack
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Post by Wofford Dad f/k/a SJA Dad on Dec 10, 2014 14:21:43 GMT -6
with the exception of SSA, this is Franklin against everyone else -- edited to add that Franklin is NOT on the left
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Post by alto1smom on Dec 14, 2014 8:09:49 GMT -6
1. Franklin 2. STM 3. Toss up the teams and they will all beat each other on any given day. I spyed on the UA EDW game and UA should have walked away the winner. EDW erupted in sheers like the won the super bowl with a lucky goal to tie it up. EDW had about 14 or so shots at goal attempts, but few of them on frame. UA scrappy and plays with heart. Loyola has some solid players and will do well, but are at a huge disadvantage because they don't get tough games due to location. -ED White, Urusline, Loyola 6. Vandy 7. Teurlings 8. Lakeshore
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Post by breakingdad on Dec 14, 2014 18:50:48 GMT -6
1. Franklin 2. STM 3. Toss up the teams and they will all beat each other on any given day. I spyed on the UA EDW game and UA should have walked away the winner. EDW erupted in sheers like the won the super bowl with a lucky goal to tie it up. EDW had about 14 or so shots at goal attempts, but few of them on frame. UA scrappy and plays with heart. Loyola has some solid players and will do well, but are at a huge disadvantage because they don't get tough games due to location. -ED White, Urusline, Loyola 6. Vandy 7. Teurlings 8. Lakeshore Lakeshore has played several of these teams and as a Lakeshore fan, let me provide some perspective. Ben Franklin is the solid #1; but right now I disagree that STM would be #2. Lakeshore got beaten solidly by Loyola 3-0 with several key players out due to injury and illness, but lost to STM only by 2-1 at Copa Acadiana last weekend under same circumstances of several key players injured; it was a winnable game for LHS. Loyola also took care of business at Copa so can't see them anywhere right now but solid #2. Haven't seen ED White or Ursuline play but would be hard-pressed to lump them at #3 with Loyola. But since STM beat Vandy, they probably are a solid #3 at the moment. So, IMO, its: 1. Franklin 2. Loyola 3. STM 4-8. Tossup as of now.
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Post by copakid14 on Dec 14, 2014 20:12:41 GMT -6
1. Franklin 2. STM 3. Toss up the teams and they will all beat each other on any given day. I spyed on the UA EDW game and UA should have walked away the winner. EDW erupted in sheers like the won the super bowl with a lucky goal to tie it up. EDW had about 14 or so shots at goal attempts, but few of them on frame. UA scrappy and plays with heart. Loyola has some solid players and will do well, but are at a huge disadvantage because they don't get tough games due to location. -ED White, Urusline, Loyola 6. Vandy 7. Teurlings 8. Lakeshore Should probably look at some results before making these posts...Vandebilt just beat Ursuline 8-0 and beat ED White 2-0. Loyola has played Byrd, Lakeshore, St. Joes, Teurlings among others and will play 4 top D1 schools at the Mandeville tourney after Christmas, STM in mid January, and Byrd at end of season. Yes our location puts us at a disadvantage but we always travel to play good teams. Of course the rest of us are playing for 2nd anyway
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Post by breakingdad on Dec 14, 2014 21:16:57 GMT -6
Based on Copakid's post [and I hadn't seen the results he noted concerning Vandebilt] then I would modify my earlier ranking to:
1. BF 2. Loyola 3. STM 4. Vandebilt 5-7. ED White, Teurlings, Lakeshore [toss-up] 8. Ursuline
Would drop Ursuline to 8th; hard to ignore getting lit up 8-0.
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Post by tjbstorm on Dec 14, 2014 21:19:30 GMT -6
Ben Franklin can beat any team in any division. Period!! Enough said. Defense plus firepower equals wins.
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Post by soccerdad23 on Dec 15, 2014 8:43:51 GMT -6
interesting... copakid in a way is right, everyone else is playing for second..let me explain,
Ben Franklin barring some epic meltdown or unfortunate injuries, should be there for the Finals. I have STM at #2 why...well the combined record of their opponents so far is 38-37-16 as opposed to Loyola's opponents combined record of 22-38-8....looks like STM has played better teams. like opponents between the two or about even, they both beat Lakeshore and St Joes, However STM was not able to take care of business against Comeaux at Copa(lost in PKs after a 0-0 tie) which would have settled this #2 argument in the finals at Copa. Still I have STM #2
It appears you may have "Fools Gold" with Loyola, I could be wrong, but I still give the nod to the State runner ups.
As far as Ursuline goes...let me say this, Im not impressed by anyone beating Ursuline and heres why...Ursuline DOES NOT get top athletes as you would think...they may have one or two, I repeat ONE or TWO top level players there...The only reason Ursuline is EVER mentioned in the top ten and are even in the top ten is strictly because of their coach...he absolutely gets everything possible out of ANY team he coaches. So that 0-8 result is not impressive.
ED White can be described as Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde!! they have some impressive results, and some head scratchers!
Teurlings in rebuilding and Lakeshore needs to get it together and Im sure they will..
1)Ben Franklin 2)STM 3)Loyola 4)Vandy 5)ED White 6)Teurlings 7)Lakeshore...still very dangerous 8)Lutcher 9)Neville 10)Ursuline
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Post by stmparent on Dec 15, 2014 18:23:12 GMT -6
... However STM was not able to take care of business against Comeaux at Copa(lost in PKs after a 0-0 tie) which would have settled this #2 argument in the finals at Copa. Still I have STM #2... STM was lucky to get out of that with a tie. There was a Mardi Gras Ball that evening in Lafayette, and STM was down 8 seniors. They had to bring up JV players just to field a team. Probably better we didn't advance. Who wants to play a team like Loyola under those conditions. STM is looking forward to a rematch with Comeaux next week, and a game against Loyola in January.
But it makes me wonder. Why would 17 and 18 year old girls prefer to get dressed up and go to a ball than play soccer
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Post by alto1smom on Dec 16, 2014 14:06:52 GMT -6
1. Franklin 2. STM 3. Toss up the teams and they will all beat each other on any given day. I spyed on the UA EDW game and UA should have walked away the winner. EDW erupted in sheers like the won the super bowl with a lucky goal to tie it up. EDW had about 14 or so shots at goal attempts, but few of them on frame. UA scrappy and plays with heart. Loyola has some solid players and will do well, but are at a huge disadvantage because they don't get tough games due to location. -ED White, Urusline, Loyola 6. Vandy 7. Teurlings 8. Lakeshore Should probably look at some results before making these posts...Vandebilt just beat Ursuline 8-0 and beat ED White 2-0. Loyola has played Byrd, Lakeshore, St. Joes, Teurlings among others and will play 4 top D1 schools at the Mandeville tourney after Christmas, STM in mid January, and Byrd at end of season. Yes our location puts us at a disadvantage but we always travel to play good teams. Of course the rest of us are playing for 2nd anyway
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Post by alto1smom on Dec 16, 2014 14:08:03 GMT -6
I don't have to look at stats I look at players all year. They don't change. I stand by my assessment knowing the players, but your point is noted.
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Post by the insideR on Dec 16, 2014 17:24:25 GMT -6
EDW erupted in sheers like the won the super bowl with a lucky goal to tie it up. I don't know what game you were at, but I was there. The second EDW goal to tie the game was NOT lucky, in fact it was a great free kick. ...... Just saying
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Post by alto1smom on Dec 16, 2014 19:25:03 GMT -6
It was a good shot, but a call back and the first one was stopped. Ref botched a call for a shoe string tie. Lucky goal that it was re-awarded, my bad for not explaining.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 19:40:35 GMT -6
It was a good shot, but a call back and the first one was stopped. Ref botched a call for a shoe string tie. Lucky goal that it was re-awarded, my bad for not explaining. The ref in a two man system also botched a offside by Ursuline in first half and admitted it post game to players of EDW, two ref system at this level is should not be allowed
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