lasoccer08
Bench Warmer
If the ball goes in the net, it is a real goal.
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Post by lasoccer08 on Dec 9, 2014 12:41:26 GMT -6
Any predictions for that game this week? Its set for Sat. 3pm UniversityU-High really tough to beat on their own field. 2-0 Cubs. U-High is tough on their field, I feel Newman will sneak one in but falling to the Cubs 3-1.
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Post by agsurfer on Dec 9, 2014 15:27:47 GMT -6
Like coachray40 I am only trying to provide context to team rankings. I'll stay with his Jesuit scenario, but take it in a different direction. No one can deny Jesuit seems to be down at this point in the season. The issue which seems to be prevalent is their out of state games. They are not counted in determining power rankings. They may be interested in “quality” of opponents, national ranking or college recruiting. I have no idea and make no judgement. What I can say is that losing to Madison Central, the 2013-14 winter soccer season #1 ranked team, and Tupelo which tied them this season does not necessarily mean Jesuit is in trouble. St. Paul's will be playing Madison Central this weekend, thus I'll reserve judgement. On the other hand, teams who schedule very weak teams and collect power rankings should not be looked at with rose colored glasses either. Mr. Crawford alluded to one such team being able to beat Jesuit. I have no doubt Denham Springs is playing some good soccer, as their record and goal totals confirm. Where I see a problem is in the number of schools they have played with a losing record (6 of their 14 opponents). That is about 40% of their schedule and these same schools have a combined record of 6-23-6 and given up 133 goals between them. Their success against mid ranked teams in all three divisions is commendable and should not be over looked, and this weekend's game against Acadiana will be a good check as to where Denham Springs has progressed and may just provide them with their break out game.
It's still fairly early in the season, lets wait until after the Christmas break and see where things lie before writing teams off even if the forecast is a bleak one, as in the Jesuit case.
To all teams, good luck, play hard and play safe.
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Post by Scott Crawford on Dec 9, 2014 16:07:42 GMT -6
Two separate sites on MS soccer indicate the 3-0 loss was to Pearl High.
Did Jesuit also lose 3-0 to Madison Central?
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Post by agsurfer on Dec 9, 2014 18:30:41 GMT -6
Look on max preps
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Post by NotInSearchofHonor on Dec 11, 2014 6:42:09 GMT -6
Need to add 3-1 Win vs St Thomas Aquinas for New Iberia. Loss is listed for STA. Thanks.
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nolapelota
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Post by nolapelota on Dec 11, 2014 13:45:37 GMT -6
Here is my ranking of D-III, top to bottom, current this week after seeing some more D-III teams play in person. Granted that teams are still missing players, injuries, holidays, etc., so subject to considerable change. It is eye-opening how far some traditionally good programs have fallen this year. This can happen to almost any small school...
1. Newman 2. NCS 3. University 4. ESA 5. St. Louis 6. St. Charles 7. Westminster 8. Haynes 9. St. Thomas Aquinas 10. Menard 11. Lusher 12. Catholic N. I. 13. North Vermillion 14. Parkview 15. Rapides 16. Runnels 17. Pope John Paul 18. Archbiship Hannan 19. Episcopal 20. Op. Catholic 21. Dunham 22. St. Frederick 23. Evangel 24. Bossier 25. Abbeville 26. Ascension Episcopal 27. Grace Christian 28. N. Caddo 29. Glenmora 30. Calvary 31. Ascension Christian 32. O.C.S. 33. St. Martin's 34. Country Day 35. Thomas Jefferson 36. Catholic P.C. 37. Riverside 38. Internationl H.S.N.O. 39. De La Salle 40. Christian Life 41. Houma Christian 42. Covanent Christian 43. West Feliciana 44. David Thibodaux 45. N.O. M&M* 46. Erath 47. Notre Dame 48. Buckeye 49. Kaplan 50. Lee Magnet 51. Independence 52. Patrick Taylor 53. Lutheran 54. Red River
*I don't think New Orleans Military and Maritime is officially a part of LHSAA soccer. However, there are a number of teams that are playing them and have them listed on their schedules. Thus the results of those games will be included in the computer rankings.
Also, there are some teams that are not playing for district honors but who are playing 15 games. Do not be surprised if some of these end up ranked by the computer in the top 16, or even better! International H.S. of N. O. is one such team.
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Post by swagcity on Dec 11, 2014 21:06:16 GMT -6
Here is my ranking of D-III, top to bottom, current this week after seeing some more D-III teams play in person. Granted that teams are still missing players, injuries, holidays, etc., so subject to considerable change. It is eye-opening how far some traditionally good programs have fallen this year. This can happen to almost any small school... 1. Newman 2. NCS 3. University 4. ESA 5. St. Louis 6. St. Charles 7. Westminster 8. Haynes 9. St. Thomas Aquinas 10. Menard 11. Lusher 12. Catholic N. I. 13. North Vermillion 14. Parkview 15. Rapides 16. Runnels 17. Pope John Paul 18. Archbiship Hannan 19. Episcopal 20. Op. Catholic 21. Dunham 22. St. Frederick 23. Evangel 24. Bossier 25. Abbeville 26. Ascension Episcopal 27. Grace Christian 28. N. Caddo 29. Glenmora 30. Calvary 31. Ascension Christian 32. O.C.S. 33. St. Martin's 34. Country Day 35. Thomas Jefferson 36. Catholic P.C. 37. Riverside 38. Internationl H.S.N.O. 39. De La Salle 40. Christian Life 41. Houma Christian 42. Covanent Christian 43. West Feliciana 44. David Thibodaux 45. N.O. M&M*
46. Erath 47. Notre Dame 48. Buckeye 49. Kaplan 50. Lee Magnet 51. Independence 52. Patrick Taylor 53. Lutheran 54. Red River *I don't think New Orleans Military and Maritime is officially a part of LHSAA soccer. However, there are a number of teams that are playing them and have them listed on their schedules. Thus the results of those games will be included in the computer rankings. Also, there are some teams that are not playing for district honors but who are playing 15 games. Do not be surprised if some of these end up ranked by the computer in the top 16, or even better! International H.S. of N. O. is one such team. When I say this, I in no way intend to start an argument, conflict or altercation what so ever. Just Voicing my opinion as the website was made for. Anyways, I think you need to hide your bias towards Newman a little better. Looking at your recent posts, a high percentage of them deal with Newman and new orleans teams and area in general where you consistently rank Newman higher than everybody else, and speak about Newman as if they are higher than everybody else, regardless of the situation. Also you literally have "nola" in your username so it clearly gives away you are from the new orleans area, and from your post history It is easy to conclude you have some sort of affiliation with Newman. Because of that, everything you say or post about them should be overlooked because of your vividly clear affiliation with them and the New Orleans region in general. Newman is a very great team do not get me mistaken , but i think a 9th seed in power rankings says a lot so far, regardless of higher seeded teams schedules and results.
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Post by swami on Dec 11, 2014 22:33:49 GMT -6
I believe that Nolapelota is just voicing his opinion as well, as you say, what the website was made for. So what if he is pro-greenie. I think its great to have discussion between people in different areas and nothing wrong with being a homer. I viewed his recent posts, enjoyed most of them, and did not see anything inappropriate and really did not see any pro-Newman posts either.
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Post by swagcity on Dec 12, 2014 7:05:13 GMT -6
I believe that Nolapelota is just voicing his opinion as well, as you say, what the website was made for. So what if he is pro-greenie. I think its great to have discussion between people in different areas and nothing wrong with being a homer. I viewed his recent posts, enjoyed most of them, and did not see anything inappropriate and really did not see any pro-Newman posts either. And you say this when all three of your posts prior to this, which is your only 3 posts on this website deal with new orleans teams..
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Post by 0coachchris0 on Dec 12, 2014 7:40:50 GMT -6
Proposal: no one who has any affiliation with any Louisiana high school or region is allowed to post. [eyeroll]
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Post by raiderfan on Dec 12, 2014 8:06:40 GMT -6
I believe that Nolapelota is just voicing his opinion as well, as you say, what the website was made for. So what if he is pro-greenie. I think its great to have discussion between people in different areas and nothing wrong with being a homer. I viewed his recent posts, enjoyed most of them, and did not see anything inappropriate and really did not see any pro-Newman posts either. And you say this when all three of your posts prior to this, which is your only 3 posts on this website deal with new orleans teams.. Come on. You're quibbling over the guy ranking Newman 1st, while the coaches ranking has them 2nd. It's not like the guy is way off in left field compared to what other people think. He's maybe just giving a little boost to his favorite schools. And this is from a Baton Rouge area poster, so I'm not tied to any New Orleans teams.
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Post by scag19 on Dec 12, 2014 9:12:15 GMT -6
12/11/14
Country day 1 University 10
@ University
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Post by methuselah on Dec 12, 2014 9:29:02 GMT -6
I'm confused now. I always though nolpeolta was a Haynes guy.
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nolapelota
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Post by nolapelota on Dec 12, 2014 9:34:35 GMT -6
Yes, it says that the power rankings are full of bull....
Funny, through the years some Newman people think I haven't been properly respectful of their team. But for SWAG's benefit, here is my reasoning ... which is simply results against a common opponent. There are several, but one good example is Haynes, last year and this year.
Last year Newman won against Haynes by two goals, 3-1 and 2-0, twice. They were not overwhelming victories and each featured a last minute insurance goal. In the playoffs, NCS was somewhat fortunate to beat Haynes 2-0 in a game that turned on a single play. This year University won 1-0 against Haynes at COPA.
All four of these teams returned most if not all of last year's lineup. Having seen all these teams and others, I judge that Newman would be more likely to win against NCS and University by a narrow margin. There are also some specific tactical and personnel reasons that I'll just keep private. But it will all come out on the field.
By all means post your own analysis and ranking. Thanks for your interest. D-III is the most interesting division for me becaue all teams must develop players and schemes each year.
PS: Country Day, St. Martin's are both really struggling this year. CD lost 9-0 to Newman... see where I ranked all of the III-9 teams (hint... none are ranked higher than 33rd making that district unique in the division).
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Post by beauchenecoach on Dec 12, 2014 14:30:11 GMT -6
Yes, it says that the power rankings are full of bull.... Funny, through the years some Newman people think I haven't been properly respectful of their team. But for SWAG's benefit, here is my reasoning ... which is simply results against a common opponent. There are several, but one good example is Haynes, last year and this year. Last year Newman won against Haynes by two goals, 3-1 and 2-0, twice. They were not overwhelming victories and each featured a last minute insurance goal. In the playoffs, NCS was somewhat fortunate to beat Haynes 2-0 in a game that turned on a single play. This year University won 1-0 against Haynes at COPA. All four of these teams returned most if not all of last year's lineup. Having seen all these teams and others, I judge that Newman would be more likely to win against NCS and University by a narrow margin. There are also some specific tactical and personnel reasons that I'll just keep private. But it will all come out on the field. By all means post your own analysis and ranking. Thanks for your interest. D-III is the most interesting division for me becaue all teams must develop players and schemes each year. PS: Country Day, St. Martin's are both really struggling this year. CD lost 9-0 to Newman... see where I ranked all of the III-9 teams (hint... none are ranked higher than 33rd making that district unique in the division). FYI Northlake has much more than just what you think they have returned. MUCH MORE! Uhigh can give them trouble and so can newman... But northlake is clearly the top team in D3 right now and that's not from someone saying based on what I saw last year and think they have this year.... It's from someone who played all 3. Uhigh is extremely dangerous and huge... That game at Copa in semifinal was my favorite game to watch cause of different styles. Our game vs newman was a blur, we were all still in shock from night before, but they are extremely good and dangerous. They are clearly the top 3.
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Post by goat on Dec 12, 2014 16:31:47 GMT -6
Until Jesuit starts playing soccer games they shouldn't even be in the top ten!! 1-0-1 with three out of state loses!!!!! Wake up voters. If they start winning they can move up but shame on y'all for voting for them based on their reputation!!!!! Let them prove themselves just like every other team is having to do. Heck I would even have Mandy over them and you know I'm not a firm believer in that district!! (except for St Pauls).
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Post by Scott Crawford on Dec 12, 2014 20:44:59 GMT -6
4 out of state losses.
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Post by soccer4eva on Dec 12, 2014 23:23:57 GMT -6
Everyone loves beating up on Jesuit. Get over it. Out of state does not count. Are you in the mind of the coach? I think that everyone wants a win but it seems very smart to go out of state and get a chance to try things out, maybe give some players some time, or figure out what formation works best for your team. I give no weight to the out of state "training games". Goat is always bitter. Crawford you seem more biased recently against Jesuit. Last year Jesuit did things just about the same way and also did not do very well in their out of state games. They voted Jesuit way down in the rankings but they still made it to the semi-finals and lost to a great St. Paul's team last year.
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Post by Scott Crawford on Dec 12, 2014 23:49:17 GMT -6
I agree with what you say about these tournaments being a good place to adjust lineups and practice. But it wasn't that long ago when Jesuit was winning tournaments far better than the ones they're playing in now. That was back when Jesuit was a national power in high school soccer. Jesuit may one day again be at that level, but it appears based on this year's results as well as last year that Jesuit has slipped from its lofty perch above all other LA programs.
I remember when Jesuit not making it to the state final was a surprise. Last year getting to the semis was a surprise. No irrational bias for or against when noting results, trends and history. Just adding to the chatter and making observations I find interesting.
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Post by sr1286 on Dec 13, 2014 15:01:39 GMT -6
Dont sleep on John Ehret. They played Grace King down to the wire and led 2-0 for most of the game. The team is made up of mostly freshmen and only two starting seniors. The core of that team is Freshmen starting center midfielder Leonardo Rodriguez, which controls the pitch single handedly. The great thing about this player is that he unselfishly brings the best out of his teammates by spreading the ball around with ease and putting his teammates in positions to make plays. From 2006 to 2011 Leonardo was the face of U-12 soccer in Houston Texas. He brought the Houstonians FC to multiple state titles in that span and was ranked in the top 5 players in the state of Texas every year untill he moved back to Louisiana. His father and 3 uncles all played pro ball, and his uncle Quique Mendoza led Honduras to the second round of the 1986 fifa world cup. His cousin at the moment is the Starting goalie for the Honduras international team. Leo was also honored by Univision Network as a futbol star of the future (http://houston.univision.com/videos/video/2010-02-18/leo-rodriguez-destaca-en-el) As this season progresses John Ehret will only get better and better. They will be a team to be reckoned with the next 3 to 4 years and I am sure the will upset plenty of top tier teams this season.
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