Post by interneuron on Dec 13, 2014 15:59:10 GMT -6
What resources or cultural shifts need to be made to raise the status of soccer in schools in Louisiana? What would be a reasonable benchmark to compare soccer's popularity to other sports? Is soccer's current status "good enough?"
I'm not a parent, or a coach, but tapping into youth soccer programs and fostering exceptional talent seems to be an effective approach for students who are already interested in soccer. Also, actual instruction during K-12 PE classes should actually include learning about specific rules for sports, not just shoehorning that material in for a poorly constructed exam. Educating people about the game is fairly important, so they can actually understand and talk about the game.
Would "incentivizing" attendance necessarily be a good thing? The target demographics would seem to be students, parents, and teachers.
As a teacher, I see that student athletes (in specific sports...) perform above average, and I recognize that participation in athletic programs is almost always looked upon favorably for college admission. Therefore, I see strengthening athletic programs as a high priority for strengthening school climate and increasing educational opportunities for students.
Post by laffysoccermom on Dec 13, 2014 16:19:28 GMT -6
I think incenting attendance is great.
One thing I have noticed is the rescheduling and canceling of games. My daughter has had 2 JV games canceled already by other schools. Neither were weather issues. I see posts on this board about last minute cancelations. You don't hear about other sports constantly rescheduling or cancelling games.
Post by interneuron on Jan 16, 2015 22:51:33 GMT -6
hall97, you make many excellent points.
There was a much bigger crowd at the NHS v. SPS game tonight, and while there was plenty of excitement, I feel that many, many students had no clue what was going on (such as the belief that not scoring means "nothing is really happening" or why offsides was just called). While spectating can slowly build awareness of what's happening, students would have to stay attentive. Would having commentators help?
The weather tonight was also tolerable, thankfully. That's not always the case.
I would imagine soccer's popularity with youth cycles with the World Cup, but it's sustained by having older players teach younger players; paying it forward, essentially. Soccer is certainly growing. On the collegiate level, students are more mobile and will leave Louisiana a lot of the time, but for the adult recreational level and then youth leagues, family density would be a major factor in sustaining those programs.
Arguably, the ability to play soccer might be at a higher skill cap than other sports, which might lower participation or push potential players into other activities. While playing a variety of sports isn't mutually exclusive, there are plenty of time trade offs.
Post by Steven Gerrard on Jan 19, 2015 15:33:17 GMT -6
High school pays more than club. And, as Hall pointed out, you would have fewer (if any) club games going on because the vast majority of those kids would be playing high school soccer. You would not have a shortage of refs.
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So would club end in say March under your proposal? How would that affect teams playing in regional tournaments in the summer?
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It doesn't impact regional/national tournaments at all.
Regionals are held in June. Nationals in July.
In most states that play hs in the spring, they generally start training around Feb 1. State championships are played in late April, first week of May.
Now, that does mean a little less 'prep' time for regionals. But if the state cup was moved to November, there's not a problem. Because playing state cup in may gives you the same (or less) time to prep for regionals.
Again, playing hs in the spring would eliminate most if not all of the college showcase conflicts. (As most are played during La's current winter season.)
Arkansas has always played high school soccer in the spring. (If you consider northern Arkansas in March "spring")
The complaints from the club side was having a spring state cup only gave teams a couple of weeks to prepare.
So, they changed the Arkansas state cup to November. Instead of May.
And I hate giving Arkansas credit for anything!
Last time I checked there are only 8 states that play high school soccer in the winter. On the east coast, high school is played in the fall!
Lucidity has nothing to do with me understanding. Guess there is no rule that says State Cup has to be at end of sesson.
I find how other states do things fascinating since I have only been exposed to Louisiana.
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Sorry. Moving hs soccer to spring may make the spring club season marginally shorter. But it doesn't shorten the club 'year' any.
I think in some states though the number of high school games are more limited.
So, moving hs soccer to the spring in La would only mean a longer fall season. Plus, as I said, it eliminates the majority of college club showcases that generally are held in December and January.
Now, the younger age groups could probably keep the same soccer schedule for the year. Only problem there is that a lot of hs coaches also coach club teams in those age groups.
Moving high school to the spring doesn't negatively impact club soccer.
Looking at it another way, currently high school runs from late October thru mid February for most teams. Club teams cannot start spring practice until all their hs games are completed.
Therefore league games and state cup 'prep' lasts from early to mid March to late April. If state cup is played in the fall, it gives the state champ teams roughly the same amount of time to prepare for regionals and nationals.
Even though this only effects a couple of teams.
For other teams not going to regionals it opens up tournament opportunities for early summer.
So in my opinion there really are no negatives to moving hs soccer to the spring. Only positives.