District 1 Division I

[futbolfiend]

Having ties this year has resulted in a really tight race for district honors here in District 1

Currently Shreve is 6-0-2 and Byrd is 7-1-1 Had Magnet not dropped that early season game @ Parkway they would also be in the thick of the race at 2-2-1.  Magnet still has games against Shreve and Byrd and could really muddy things up if they win both games

If Shreve and Byrd both win out (they have already played each other twice) it will look like this

Shreve 10-0-2 (32 points)- I am assuming they are using a 3 point system 
Byrd 10-1-1     (31 points)

Shreve still has tough games against Parkway and Magnet (and truth be told Shreve should have lost their first matchup with Magnet) 

Byrd has Magnet, Parkway and Airline all in a short 6 day span starting next week  


should be an exciting finish

[Deleted]

Great points fiend.

Although that offside call early in the first magnet game changed things. Shreve is proving to be even more of a 2nd half team this season. Grinding out results in the last minutes.

I think Magnet can definitely beat Byrd. Guess we will find out Tuesday.

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Big matchup tonight at 7:45 with Captain Shreve hosting Caddo Magnet.

Magnet is coming off a big win against Byrd (3-2) on Tuesday night. Byrd and Magnet now both have two district losses each.

Captain Shreve still holding on to first place. As well as riding a 23 game district unbeaten streak.

Magnet may just now be finding their rhythm. Magnet has everything to gain (for pr/playoff purposes) with a win tonight. Shreve could conceivably lose and still win district with wins over Parkway and Southwood.

Shreve has proven that they can grind out results in the closing minutes.

I have tremendous respect for Magnet's coaches. Radi Baltov is a master tactician and always finds a way to compete. Given the weather conditions (falling temps and rain) and the fact both teams have played a ton of games lately...it may come down to the better organized team...and guts.

It'll be a wet one. But hard fought as always.

[futbolfiend]

Update from Hall97. .at half its Shreve over Caddo Magnet 3-0 on a miserable night at Lee Hedges..understand Shreve is without the services of Sr. Morgan Goree who along with Jr Hardy Hall is the cement that binds our midfield..

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[futbolfiend]

From Mrs Hall97

4-0



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[shreve/magnet pops]

Game tonight between shreve & magnet-

Since refs get no love, I thought the crew did a great job tonight! ugly conditions but ref controlled the entire game. A couple of yellows but well earned by the booked.

Big rivalry game that ref crew made sure it did not get chippy!

[f2]

I'm not gonna lie and say it REALLY affected the game, but no man. The officiating, like most games in shreveport it feels, was awful. Again, Shreve played as the better team, especially in the last 20 minutes (Magnet slouched and Shreve practically started toying around), but the penalty call not only looked wrong, but it definitely helped turn the tides

[shreve/magnet pops]

Jan 23, 2015 1:26:24 GMT -6 f2 said:

I'm not gonna lie and say it REALLY affected the game, but no man. The officiating, like most games in shreveport it feels, was awful. Again, Shreve played as the better team, especially in the last 20 minutes (Magnet slouched and Shreve practically started toying around), but the penalty call not only looked wrong, but it definitely helped turn the tides

[shreve/magnet pops]

There were no goals called back for offsides, (like our fist meeting) fouls were called pretty evenly. Bookings were deserved for dessent & rough fouls. All boys played hard. Game was not chippy.

The penalty was a clear foul in the box called by center & linemen. That turned the tide To make it 2-0.
Totally my opinion.
Magnet was alittle flat last night, my perspective. I guess that was the refs fault. Shreve's defense played their best game of the year. Shreve's counter attack was aided by the conditions & Magnets ball control was affected by wet field.

Perspective, awful. Wow! Even when refs do a good job- they get awful ratings. Odd.

[futbolfiend]

Game article from the times..

Guess i missed a good one.. (from a Shreve supporters objective)

From The Times

Captain Shreve clinches share of district title

With the rain pelting Lee Hedges Stadium consistently Thursday night, Captain Shreve did the same to Caddo Magnet’s defense in a 4-0 win. After about 20 minutes of stalemate soccer, even with the Mustangs arguably possessing the ball more, Shreve’s Chad Usry opened the flood gates with a rocket goal from about 35 yards out. The Gators poured in two more first-half goals – an Usry penalty kick and a Nick Hammond goal on an assist from Hardy Hall – to take a commanding lead. Hall sent a through ball to Hammond on the left wing, and Hammond finished from close range. “We played disciplined, obviously the weather was terrible for both teams, but I told everybody that they had a role to play, and we took our chances when they gave it to us,” said Captain Shreve coach Stephen Slack. “(Usry’s goal) took the weight off our shoulders ... and we had a couple of opportunities that didn’t work out with balls that run too far, but it let us know that what we were doing could be successful.”

www.shreveporttimes.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/01/22/gators-clinch-share-district-title/22202525/

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[pOkLE]

Refs don't win/lose games, teams do. Yes, hypothetically there are exactly even games that turn on (exactly) one call.....but the other 999,999 times out of 1,000,000, the players had much more of an impact on the result. In other words, when the ref "gives/gifts" the other team that PK and your team missed 47 chances on goal, those misses lost the game not the "free" goal.

I guess shreve/magnet pops has it right: perspective. Have a self-critical perspective and become a better player/team. Have a referee-critical perspective and never be responsible for shortcomings.

Don't confuse my statements as a belief that referees are perfect and don't influence games. Their imperfectness and influence is just a part of the game, a small part that gets embellished far too often (of course, IMHO).

And, as any referee that knows me will tell you, none of this means I don't let them (repeatedly) know when I think they're wrong.

[shreve/magnet pops]

Thanks for the article fiend.

I hate all this ref bashing. It's like people don't have the ability keep individual games compartmentalized. Each game is independent of itself- time, weather, teams, crews, players, coaches, rivalries, injuries, new formations, new tactics, friendlies, exams, schedules, etc. A ton of variables.

A good game is when the ref is in the shadows- no oh wow! moments. A foul is a foul- a card is a card- foul in the box is a pk, manage the game, let the game have a good flow, NO INJURIES!, all involved respecting the game! to say every game this year refs have been awful- that's a wow moment for me! At this level, there are going to be missed calls- it's part of high school soccer everywhere. These are not EPL certified crews! These are peolple who love the game & help it develop too! I don't think they are living off the high pay or great benefits!

This week, yes we had a rouge ref at Haughton/ Shreve game. It was ridiculous! It was dealt with. It has no influence on the crew that worked game last night!

If you have never refed a game, go to the class, get certified, & do it. The soccer community can always use a few more of them! I hear the pay & benefits are awesome!

Thanks to all refs who take up the whistle for the love of & advancement of the game! Appreciated- but only if my team wins! Just kidding. THANK YOU REFS!

[f2]

I appreciate good reffing because I understand the game and I know the rules. Again, I AM NOT saying the refs influenced the game enough to change the overall result. But bad reffing is bad reffing and I don't think bad refs should be getting credit where it isn't due

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Despite the weather and conditions, it was a great night to be a Shreve fan.

The boys were really focused and determined to prove themselves. Total team effort. back line and keeper were very solid. Midfield was in sync linking defense and attack.

Hall was able to get forward more and contribute to the attack. (Primarily has played a more defensive role this season.)

Magnet was put into a tough situation. They had to play with more urgency as they needed to get a win. It just wasn't their night. Always hard to pull off two big district wins back-to-back.

Have to give the officiating crew respect for calling a tight, but fair and consistent game. Quality crew.

This brings Shreve's unbeaten district streak to 24 games. Still have Southwood and a scrappy Parkway team to finish out the district schedule. As well as Calvary and Evangel to get their instate game count to the minimum number.

Sidenote: Don't know all the latest circumstances, but I really don't understand, nor appreciate the fact that Loyola hasn't wanted to reschedule either one of the Shreve games.

My theory is that they don't welcome a higher level of competition than what they've had this season. Granted, just my opinion. But one I think with a lot of merit.

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Jan 23, 2015 1:26:24 GMT -6 f2 said:

I'm not gonna lie and say it REALLY affected the game, but no man. The officiating, like most games in shreveport it feels, was awful. Again, Shreve played as the better team, especially in the last 20 minutes (Magnet slouched and Shreve practically started toying around), but the penalty call not only looked wrong, but it definitely helped turn the tides

I feel your pain. And I certainly understand where you are coming from.

However, the ref crew last night called a decent game. Definitely much better than the typical game around here.

I thought the early yellow cards for both the Shreve and Magnet players were a little harsh. But, I have to give the center ref credit for being consistent and equitable.

Going to have to respectfully disagree with the penalty call. The player that drew the penalty was taken down from behind. 99 times out of 100 a defender making a challenge (and making significant contact) from behind is going to make that call.

Surely you aren't implying it was a dive? 

[pekia]

Refs can definatelly influence the outcome of any game. I know teams should control their own destiny, however, all of us have seen it thousands of times when a bad call can completely change the momentum, and therefore the final result.
As far as last night, Shreve deserved to win. Magnet possessed the ball more but could not penetrate in the final third. Shreve won the game because their top three players came big last night. Chad scored the first goal from over 30 yards. It was a spectacular shot. Then Hardy Hall puts Nick Hammond 1v1 with the GK and Nick converted for the third goal. At any level, including high school, it is important to have players that can change the outcome of any game with one shot, move or a pass. Shreve has a few of those that can deliver when needed.
The ref made a mistake for the second Shreve goal when he called a pk. Things like that happen at any level, including the WC, Champions League, EPL, LA Liga, or anywhere else. It is part of the game. Apart from that the refs did a good job. Trey, the central ref, is one of the most promising officials not only from North LA but anywhere in the region. I know he study the game and officiate a lot. In my opinion he can go far if he continue to develop.
Refereeing is a tough job and we should not focus too much on their mistakes. They will continue to make them, just like players and coaches make mistakes all the time. We need to focus on our own teams and players, and how to develop them better.

[sissoko]

ShreveDads (version 2.0)- you guys have blinders on sometimes.

Good win for Shreve, they finished when it counted. Tough loss for Magnet, they looked to have the edge until the first goal and the subsequent PK.

For the ShreveDads- Nobody tried to take the win away from Shreve, kind of hard to do in a 4-0 game. That being said, since you guys LOVE to blame the refs when you don't get a 4-0 win (see the last Shreve-Magnet game- you guys were still talking about the offsides call and not the terrible PK call that made it 2-1 with minutes left; but credit where credit is due, I believe one of you acknowledged Shreve was very fortunate to tie the first game). OK so last night- The PK call was poor, and occurred right after an uncalled foul against Shreve. Other than that, the center had a decent game- and as pekia said, he is one of the better refs in the area- but hard to say that the PK didn't have an unnecessary impact, but those things happen- you didn't see Magnet players/parents griping about the last one, and you really don't see that much here. The AR on the bleachers side of the field (with the poncho on) had one of his best games I've seen. AR on the players' side couldn't make the simplest calls at times, not much else to say there. OK enough about referees-

Before the game, I expected Magnet to control possession and create chances, with Shreve relying on their top attacking players to win the game. Both things happened, but it's obvious how the result shook out. Great goal by Chad to open the game, great pass by Hall to Hammond who in turn had a quality finish to make it 3-0.

Congratulations to Shreve for winning district. I look forward to seeing them in the playoffs. Congratulations to Magnet as well for the massive turnaround they've had since November and early December- I hope they can stay focused after this loss and push their way into the playoffs- I expect they will turn some heads if they do.

[f2]

The center ref was better as the game went on. Still made some bad calls in my opinion in the second half, but what ref doesn't? Plus everybody feels like the refs judged the game poorer when they lose. My bigger problem were several of the calls made by the ARs. Sure it's only a few moments in the game, but when at least 50 percent of the close calls looked wrong to me, that's bad officiating. I agree that we need to focus more on players than refs, but when you play a game like that and the officials make bad calls and eliminate your chances going forward or give the other team a chance to counter, people shouldn't praise them out of nowhere. Don't mention them, sure, they didn't affect the outcome, but I think too many people have a mindset of "Oh being a ref is hard. You try being a ref. Blah blah blah." Just because it's hard doesn't mean they should be praised for nothing.

Another reason it's upsetting to see people say that (and honestly at this point I'm just complaining for complaining's sake, but it's pretty much true) is the mindset so many people have on this website, Shreve parents very well included. You've already won the game, everybody knows you played as the better team, and you still have to absolve the result of all possible doubt by saying, "Oh, good job to the refs, they didn't make any bad calls." If they really didn't, then fine, but it wasn't the best called game. I've certainly had worse, but I've also certainly had much better. And then if it's not explaining why they should have pulled away with a better result, it's just stroking eachother's egos. "Oooh my team did this, ooh my team did that." All conversation on the game is typically (futbolfiend aside), "This is why my team is better, despite however I may word it to appear otherwise." Who are you trying to impress? What are you trying to prove? Playoffs are no longer set by the coaches polls with the advent of power rankings, so what kind of advantage are you trying to gain? My problem isn't parents being proud of their kids and their teams, I have a problem that half the time, no real discussion happens because of it. I mean, at least in the other districts, the mods and such are somewhat interested, so they chime in with proper commentary, but especially with our district, all I ever hear is, "Shreve this. Shreve that." And sure, they're a fine three players, Shreve, but who cares?

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Jan 23, 2015 12:29:35 GMT -6 f2 said:

The center ref was better as the game went on. Still made some bad calls in my opinion in the second half, but what ref doesn't? Plus everybody feels like the refs judged the game poorer when they lose. My bigger problem were several of the calls made by the ARs. Sure it's only a few moments in the game, but when at least 50 percent of the close calls looked wrong to me, that's bad officiating. I agree that we need to focus more on players than refs, but when you play a game like that and the officials make bad calls and eliminate your chances going forward or give the other team a chance to counter, people shouldn't praise them out of nowhere. Don't mention them, sure, they didn't affect the outcome, but I think too many people have a mindset of "Oh being a ref is hard. You try being a ref. Blah blah blah." Just because it's hard doesn't mean they should be praised for nothing.

Another reason it's upsetting to see people say that (and honestly at this point I'm just complaining for complaining's sake, but it's pretty much true) is the mindset so many people have on this website, Shreve parents very well included. You've already won the game, everybody knows you played as the better team, and you still have to absolve the result of all possible doubt by saying, "Oh, good job to the refs, they didn't make any bad calls." If they really didn't, then fine, but it wasn't the best called game. I've certainly had worse, but I've also certainly had much better. And then if it's not explaining why they should have pulled away with a better result, it's just stroking eachother's egos. "Oooh my team did this, ooh my team did that." All conversation on the game is typically (futbolfiend aside), "This is why my team is better, despite however I may word it to appear otherwise." Who are you trying to impress? What are you trying to prove? Playoffs are no longer set by the coaches polls with the advent of power rankings, so what kind of advantage are you trying to gain? My problem isn't parents being proud of their kids and their teams, I have a problem that half the time, no real discussion happens because of it. I mean, at least in the other districts, the mods and such are somewhat interested, so they chime in with proper commentary, but especially with our district, all I ever hear is, "Shreve this. Shreve that." And sure, they're a fine three players, Shreve, but who cares?

Apparently you do?

For the record, my perception of the way the game was called is largely due to the sharp contrast of the Shreve-Haughton game on Tuesday. And that was based on the ref's personal conduct and management of the game...not necessarily the individual calls made.

And really, after all the smack talk last year of Magnet 'sweeping the district'? And the subsequent close but two Magnet losses against Shreve last season?

All I heard from the  Magnet camp last year was how superior they were, better players, blah, blah, blah!

And do we need to bring up the  antics from futbolmaniac?

I don't think any Shreve parents are exactly beating their chests and talking down or otherwise disparaging Magnet's program, coaches or players.

Besides, the pk aside, I don't really see how that made that huge of a difference in the end result of the game. It's not like Shreve parked the bus after that. Two more goals were scored. The offside call in the first game early first half did make an impact...because it would've given Shreve the lead. Change of tactics and all that.

Yeah, Magnet may have had better possession, but that was by design. Shreve has always had to get results with perhaps fewer club experienced players. Possession without penetration doesn't do a lot of good. Better chances? Okay, I'll concede that for the sake of argument.

Aside from all that, I have always been complimentary of Magnet's style and coaching staff.

I also said I thought that both yellow cards (against Magnet and Shreve) were a little harsh. But at least the ref applied the laws equitably and consistently. (Again maybe it's just the contrast.)

I know this was a tough (and apparently shocking) loss for Magnet.

Sissoko, you're an intelligent guy...but the blinders reference isn't resonating. That argument works both ways you know.

[f2]

Jan 23, 2015 13:00:06 GMT -6 @hall97 said:

Jan 23, 2015 12:29:35 GMT -6 f2 said:

The center ref was better as the game went on. Still made some bad calls in my opinion in the second half, but what ref doesn't? Plus everybody feels like the refs judged the game poorer when they lose. My bigger problem were several of the calls made by the ARs. Sure it's only a few moments in the game, but when at least 50 percent of the close calls looked wrong to me, that's bad officiating. I agree that we need to focus more on players than refs, but when you play a game like that and the officials make bad calls and eliminate your chances going forward or give the other team a chance to counter, people shouldn't praise them out of nowhere. Don't mention them, sure, they didn't affect the outcome, but I think too many people have a mindset of "Oh being a ref is hard. You try being a ref. Blah blah blah." Just because it's hard doesn't mean they should be praised for nothing.

Another reason it's upsetting to see people say that (and honestly at this point I'm just complaining for complaining's sake, but it's pretty much true) is the mindset so many people have on this website, Shreve parents very well included. You've already won the game, everybody knows you played as the better team, and you still have to absolve the result of all possible doubt by saying, "Oh, good job to the refs, they didn't make any bad calls." If they really didn't, then fine, but it wasn't the best called game. I've certainly had worse, but I've also certainly had much better. And then if it's not explaining why they should have pulled away with a better result, it's just stroking eachother's egos. "Oooh my team did this, ooh my team did that." All conversation on the game is typically (futbolfiend aside), "This is why my team is better, despite however I may word it to appear otherwise." Who are you trying to impress? What are you trying to prove? Playoffs are no longer set by the coaches polls with the advent of power rankings, so what kind of advantage are you trying to gain? My problem isn't parents being proud of their kids and their teams, I have a problem that half the time, no real discussion happens because of it. I mean, at least in the other districts, the mods and such are somewhat interested, so they chime in with proper commentary, but especially with our district, all I ever hear is, "Shreve this. Shreve that." And sure, they're a fine three players, Shreve, but who cares?

Apparently you do?

For the record, my perception of the way the game was called is largely due to the sharp contrast of the Shreve-Haughton game on Tuesday. And that was based on the ref's personal conduct and management of the game...not necessarily the individual calls made.

And really, after all the smack talk last year of Magnet 'sweeping the district'? And the subsequent close but two Magnet losses against Shreve last season?

All I heard from the  Magnet camp last year was how superior they were, better players, blah, blah, blah!

And do we need to bring up the  antics from futbolmaniac?

I don't think any Shreve parents are exactly beating their chests and talking down or otherwise disparaging Magnet's program, coaches or players.

Besides, the pk aside, I don't really see how that made that huge of a difference in the end result of the game. It's not like Shreve parked the bus after that. Two more goals were scored. The offside call in the first game early first half did make an impact...because it would've given Shreve the lead. Change of tactics and all that.

Yeah, Magnet may have had better possession, but that was by design. Shreve has always had to get results with perhaps fewer club experienced players. Possession without penetration doesn't do a lot of good. Better chances? Okay, I'll concede that for the sake of argument.

Aside from all that, I have always been complimentary of Magnet's style and coaching staff.

I also said I thought that both yellow cards (against Magnet and Shreve) were a little harsh. But at least the ref applied the laws equitably and consistently. (Again maybe it's just the contrast.)

I know this was a tough (and apparently shocking) loss for Magnet.

Sissoko, you're an intelligent guy...but the blinders reference isn't resonating. That argument works both ways you know.

As always, Hall, you've entirely missed the point and are practically putting words in my and other's mouths