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Post by brsoccer99 on Jan 21, 2015 11:32:23 GMT -6
Huge district match in District 1-4, which will help determine who is district champs. Game starts at 6 in Denham Springs. What are your thoughts on tonight's match?
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Post by thebirdstheword on Jan 21, 2015 15:09:35 GMT -6
Denham 4-2
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Post by used2be on Jan 21, 2015 15:55:14 GMT -6
Denham 5-0.
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Post by TacoTuesday on Jan 21, 2015 18:48:59 GMT -6
Can anyone provide an update?
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Post by broncofutbol on Jan 21, 2015 18:49:38 GMT -6
1-1 halftime. Zachary on a set piece. Denham scored on a pk
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Post by premier on Jan 21, 2015 19:16:20 GMT -6
Sounds like Zachary came to play! Is anyone at the game able to provide updates?
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Post by broncofutbol on Jan 21, 2015 19:20:26 GMT -6
Zachary takes lead 2-1 when denham defense fails to clear their line. Denham ties with a quick counter attack 2-2. Denham scores on a corner 3-2 with 10 minutes left
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Post by broncofutbol on Jan 21, 2015 19:24:08 GMT -6
6 minutes left and its getting physical. A couple yc both ways. Fans getting chippy as well. Everything we knew it was going to be. Good fast physical soccer. Rematch at zachary should be equally as exciting
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Post by broncofutbol on Jan 21, 2015 19:31:21 GMT -6
Final 3-2. Denham wins
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Post by old66man45 on Jan 22, 2015 6:16:58 GMT -6
As always a physical game. Next week in Zachary should be interesting. Just hope there or Refs there that can control the game because last nights CR did a horrible game.
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Post by Sanofi-Aventis on Jan 22, 2015 7:38:41 GMT -6
As always a physical game. Next week in Zachary should be interesting. Just hope there or Refs there that can control the game because last nights CR did a horrible game. Things getting alittle physical here towards the end of the game. SPS player issued yellow card for sliding studs up tackle into NHS player. SPS coach also receives a yellow when talking to the center.
Great referee crew tonight that has controlled the match from the start - best officiating I have seen while home this Christmas break!
Read more: laprepsoccer.proboards.com/thread/19553/st-pauls-2-northshore-1?page=2#ixzz3PYaeYJHf
The same referee did both games!
Funny how people see things so differently.
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Post by zsoccer on Jan 22, 2015 8:35:20 GMT -6
Pretty sure you're not talking about the same game.
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Post by blaugranas on Jan 22, 2015 8:51:11 GMT -6
As always a physical game. Next week in Zachary should be interesting. Just hope there or Refs there that can control the game because last nights CR did a horrible game. Things getting alittle physical here towards the end of the game. SPS player issued yellow card for sliding studs up tackle into NHS player. SPS coach also receives a yellow when talking to the center.
Great referee crew tonight that has controlled the match from the start - best officiating I have seen while home this Christmas break!
Read more: laprepsoccer.proboards.com/thread/19553/st-pauls-2-northshore-1?page=2#ixzz3PYaeYJHf
The same referee did both games!
Funny how people see things so differently.
i would venture to say very few, (coaches, players or fans)... thought the crew in the SPS/NSH match did a good job. i let the "good job" commentary go w/o a comment because the match was over and everyone moved on.... but the crew in that match had a VERY poor night. the center had little to no control of the match from the start, was inconsistent on what constituted a dangerous and/or reckless challenge... and the AR missed multiple offsides calls, including easy ones when the center back was pretty much sitting in the keeper's lap, holding everyone on. the physicality escalated to the point where players were "handling issues" themselves. (always a dangerous specter). the studs up challenge by the SPS striker, was a reckless, and retaliatory tackle that warranted a yellow and perhaps a straight red. it was in direct response to having his face intentionally stepped on by the NSH player (after he knocked the SPS striker down, on a fair challenge). if there is any doubt as to whether the face stomp was intentionally, refer to any of players on either team standing there, or the 100's of fans from both schools staring at it, who reacted immediately, or the AR who waved his flag to no notice by the CR. in all truth i've seen this particular CR before in both high school and club, and the lost of control of the match has been fairly typical. that may be what the poster was seeing in the Denham/Zachary match.
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Post by Sanofi-Aventis on Jan 22, 2015 9:19:34 GMT -6
Hate to ruin all that writing, but the coach of the losing team said the crew was great as well as the administrator of the winning team. So, the informed people disagree with you.
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Post by blaugranas on Jan 22, 2015 9:50:29 GMT -6
didn't ruin the writing at all,... or address it's factual nature!
actually spoke with both coaches, about this exact issue, (and the losing coach [Laz], is also club coach), and that is not the opinion expressed, ... and in fact coaches were pleased that the players managed to play above the quality of the CR. (thoughts echoed by at least one coach who stayed from the earlier girls match and watched ). and clearly a conversation with another ref about the potential poor performance of a crew, is not in service of his team going forward. "informed" people don't have only rose-colored glasses, or an inability to see a poor performance (or a routine poor performer), because of a vested relationship. the insinuation that one is not "informed" because an opinion on a CR's performance is not not flattering, is silly.
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Post by britspub on Jan 22, 2015 9:54:25 GMT -6
Center referee of both games in response to recent complaints in this thread:
Parents and players, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by referees with yellow and red cards. Who's gonna do it? You the parent who knows everything? You, the player who falls upon contact and/or deliberately kicks someone? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for players and coaches, and you curse the referees. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That calls I decisions I make, while tragic in your eyes, probably saved the game. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves games. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that field, you need me on that field. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a WHO DAT what you think you are entitled to.
Parent: Did you order the Red? Referee: I did the job I... Parent *Did you order the Red?* Referee: *You're good right I did!*
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Post by Sanofi-Aventis on Jan 22, 2015 10:51:10 GMT -6
didn't ruin the writing at all,... or address it's factual nature! actually spoke with both coaches, about this exact issue, (and the losing coach [Laz], is also club coach), and that is not the opinion expressed, ... and in fact coaches were pleased that the players managed to play above the quality of the CR. (thoughts echoed by at least one coach who stayed from the earlier girls match and watched ). and clearly a conversation with another ref about the potential poor performance of a crew, is not in service of his team going forward. "informed" people don't have only rose-colored glasses, or an inability to see a poor performance (or a routine poor performer), because of a vested relationship. the insinuation that one is not "informed" because an opinion on a CR's performance is not not flattering, is silly. Laz made it a point to stop by the table at the restaurant after the game and thank the crew. All coaches who just lost like that do this, right? The next morning one of the most respected people in high school soccer on the NS if not the State (works for SPS) spoke to the crew and had good things to say. Another conversation with referee discussing the poor performance of his fellow referees. Yeah, he's credible. So you are gonna bring a coach from the previous games comments into this discussion who has a very big bias against the whole crew and act like the board should care what he thinks? Referees make mistakes all the time. They are discussed and thought about. When DN was cautioned, it was retaliation. The crew discussed the incident after the game. The disrespect he showed after the card was shown is a different story. There are no rose or yellow colored glasses here. There are situations I would like to have back every game. There are phone calls and film watched and discussions trying to replay a situation that didn't go well.
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Post by used2be on Jan 22, 2015 11:20:14 GMT -6
Interesting thread...my take is that officials, coaches and players all have a job to do. Whether the officials are good or bad on a given day is just something coaches have to help their players adjust to. High winds...adjust your game (tactics/strategy). Rain and mud, adjust your game. Extremely fast attacker, adjust your game. Jerseys being tugged and not called, adjust your game. The more skilled players are capable of playing through a lot and often don't necessarily want much called...just enough to know they have the freedom to be creative and not risk injury.
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Post by blaugranas on Jan 22, 2015 11:25:32 GMT -6
didn't ruin the writing at all,... or address it's factual nature! actually spoke with both coaches, about this exact issue, (and the losing coach [Laz], is also club coach), and that is not the opinion expressed, ... and in fact coaches were pleased that the players managed to play above the quality of the CR. (thoughts echoed by at least one coach who stayed from the earlier girls match and watched ). and clearly a conversation with another ref about the potential poor performance of a crew, is not in service of his team going forward. "informed" people don't have only rose-colored glasses, or an inability to see a poor performance (or a routine poor performer), because of a vested relationship. the insinuation that one is not "informed" because an opinion on a CR's performance is not not flattering, is silly. Laz made it a point to stop by the table at the restaurant after the game and thank the crew. All coaches who just lost like that do this, right? The next morning one of the most respected people in high school soccer on the NS if not the State (works for SPS) spoke to the crew and had good things to say. Another conversation with referee discussing the poor performance of his fellow referees. Yeah, he's credible. So you are gonna bring a coach from the previous games comments into this discussion who has a very big bias against the whole crew and act like the board should care what he thinks? Referees make mistakes all the time. They are discussed and thought about. When DN was cautioned, it was retaliation. The crew discussed the incident after the game. The disrespect he showed after the card was shown is a different story. There are no rose or yellow colored glasses here. There are situations I would like to have back every game. There are phone calls and film watched and discussions trying to replay a situation that didn't go well. enough enough..... as i tried to post earlier, but i managed to muck it up, .. refereeing is difficult period. it's not made easier, by players, fans, parents, and sometimes coaches, not knowing the laws of the game. ( i've suggested to some club coaches, they should require parents--especially the verbally active ones-- to sit in on the refereeing course). and of course it's done by humans generally doing the best they can. of course this does not eliminate the fact that some refs, do a much better job than others,... and some are routine poor performers. we will agree to disagree about the performance during the SPS/Northshore match. and no more pissing match about who's in the know or what they really thought, or any other personal stuff about coaches, board members etc.... that match is over and there are some many more quality matches coming down the pipe. on a side note, i am not surprised by coach Laz thanking the crew, that's exactly like him... all class.... wish more were like him)
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Post by Schiedsrichter on Jan 22, 2015 11:45:36 GMT -6
The key to a misinformed and delusional spectator: "offsides"
It's "offside"
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