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Post by brsoccerdad50 on Jan 30, 2015 11:34:02 GMT -6
The state's principals passed proposed mercy rule 214-26 at this morning's LHSAA convention.
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Post by 0coachchris0 on Jan 30, 2015 11:40:04 GMT -6
Can someone link to or provide the verbiage? I think this will cause all sorts of issues.
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Post by pOkLE on Jan 30, 2015 11:53:22 GMT -6
I'll post exact language from agenda in a few.
But rule reads that you complete first half regardless of score. If score is +8 or more at half, game over. In 2nd half, game ends as soon as differential is +8
Edit: 18.3.7.1 An 8-goal differential secured at the end of the first half or secured during the second half shall terminate the game.
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Post by Rabid Monkey on Jan 30, 2015 12:04:55 GMT -6
I guess all those scoring records are now safe.
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Post by wildcatsoccer on Jan 30, 2015 12:08:08 GMT -6
So if we only play half a game do we only pay half of the ref fee?
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Post by pshenton on Jan 30, 2015 12:14:29 GMT -6
I personally don't like this rule. This limits the amount of playing time I can give subs.
I plan if we get to 7 goals, we don't score again and play the full game so everyone can get some minutes.
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Post by coachray40 on Jan 30, 2015 12:16:24 GMT -6
Im going on record now that this rule change will become the most controversial item in HS soccer within two years. As long as teams are going to be compelled to play in districts, there are going to be mismatches. How is it going to benefit a weak team to drive an hour to play 40 minutes? My feeling is that you will have coaches who will run 8 up quick, play keepaway and then end the game at half, when they could just play their JV and keep it closer. We will see. Just dont like it--and thats coming from a coach who very well would have seen his team mercy ruled in 10-12 games this year. Tell me how that will convince my kids to keep playing.
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Post by coachray40 on Jan 30, 2015 12:21:01 GMT -6
So if we only play half a game do we only pay half of the ref fee? That does bring up a curious debate-will officials referee games differently (more lenient out side the box, and more strict in it) if it means doing half the work for the same pay. Save me the "there is no way that would happen" response. It will. Right now refs are there to do a full game and get paid that way--regardless of result. Let there be a chance for impropriety and there will be |
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Post by historian on Jan 30, 2015 12:25:44 GMT -6
Disappointing. This is what I typed up for my principal in regards to the mercy rule.
A mercy rule is never needed in any timed sport. No one would ever consider adding one in football or basketball. When games get out of hand, as they sometimes do, most coaches allow other players the opportunity to get playing time. A mercy rule does not benefit good players or bad players. I have been on both sides of blowout games in the past, I have had my starters playing against second and third stringers, and vice-versa. I have played with fewer people on the field then the opposing team. Lessons and simulations can be taught in every game, not just highly competitive games. Every coach knows that there is no substitute for games, and that game situations cannot be simulated perfectly in training. Soccer is trying to be taken seriously as a major sport. Our soccer is earning major respect around the country in regional and national polls. I am concerned that soccer will decline as less younger players will lose game experience. I worry that a mercy rule if passed will never be taken out. I worry that when (my school) plays a team that is not having a good year, parents from both teams will not want to attend because they will expect the game to not last long. Parents of players who do not play much will not attend because they will not get to see their child play many minutes. This will cause gate collections and concessions to drop. If a game only lasts forty minutes, we will have to throw away a lot of concession items. For district games we cook a dinner option to be sold at a high cost to us.
My Suggestion: NO
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Post by time2retire on Jan 30, 2015 12:32:02 GMT -6
I personally don't like this rule. This limits the amount of playing time I can give subs. I plan if we get to 7 goals, we don't score again and play the full game so everyone can get some minutes. Or score a few own goals |
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Post by time2retire on Jan 30, 2015 12:32:31 GMT -6
So if we only play half a game do we only pay half of the ref fee? Uh, no? |
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jan 30, 2015 12:42:20 GMT -6
Anyone on here saying that yiu get anything out of an 8 goal lead in a game is kidding themselves. All kids want to do against teams they are 8 better than is score. And playing keep away is humiliating to those teams too. First and foremost, shouldn't be playing teams like that unless forced to by districting. Secondly, if you are, it isn't a far drive for a 40 minute game. Third, ask refs to stay the extra time and call it a JV game for rest of time left in varsity game... Just call it final and finish the time left... I'm sure the refs wouldn't mind since they are being paid for 80 minutes.
What are you going to work on up 8 goals? An 8 goal lead in soccer is like a 50 point lead in basketball. When you start seeing a whole bunch of those scores, basketball will do it and so will other sports. Baseball and softball,have had mercy rules for years. Nothing personal guys, just stating my opinion like you are. 80% of principals agreed with it.
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Post by 0coachchris0 on Jan 30, 2015 12:54:36 GMT -6
80% of principals agreed with the white jersey rule as well, right?
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Post by pOkLE on Jan 30, 2015 12:56:56 GMT -6
Be careful using percentage of principal support as your own support  (large percent against doing away with white unis) I'm biased in this one by the cold -- I can see both sides but when it's super cold, I'll be super happy to be leaving that 8-0 or 0-8 game sooner rather than later. |
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jan 30, 2015 12:57:01 GMT -6
80% of principals agreed with the white jersey rule as well, right? When someone gets up and says to everyone its against NFHS rules before voting, that will happen. |
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Post by time2retire on Jan 30, 2015 12:57:42 GMT -6
Third, ask refs to stay the extra time and call it a JV game for rest of time left in varsity game. Just call it final and finish the time left. I'm sure the refs wouldn't mind since they are being paid for 80 minutes. Interesting concept. I like the idea. |
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jan 30, 2015 12:58:12 GMT -6
Speaking of white jerseys, ask all of your principals how they voted on it. I know my principal still voted to get rid of the rule, did yours?
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jan 30, 2015 13:02:01 GMT -6
Third, ask refs to stay the extra time and call it a JV game for rest of time left in varsity game. Just call it final and finish the time left. I'm sure the refs wouldn't mind since they are being paid for 80 minutes. Interesting concept. I like the idea. Don't you think most refs would be reasonable about that? I am sure they would for most part? |
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Post by retired_thibodaux_coach on Jan 30, 2015 13:03:35 GMT -6
So if we only play half a game do we only pay half of the ref fee? I sure hope so. |
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Jan 30, 2015 13:03:40 GMT -6
So if we only play half a game do we only pay half of the ref fee? Surely you jest! |
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(large percent against doing away with white unis)
