February Frenzy - CatCoach & SureTraction share as DI Champs

[goat]

Too high tech for me but I will post upsets: D1 Hammond, Dutchtown and New Iberia will win! DII none, DIII Menard, Lafayette Christian, and Opelousas Cath. NUFF SAID!

[p_malinich]

Division I picks

Champion	Picks
(1) St. Paul's	42
(3) Jesuit	3
(2) Acadiana	2
(4) Mandeville	1
(7) Denham Springs	1
(8) Captain Shreve	1
(15) Northshore	1

[p_malinich]

Division II picks
(most diverse group of picks - includes 1 late entry)

Champion	Picks
(1) Beau Chene	16
(5) Vandebilt	11
(7) Ben Franklin	7
(2) St. Michael	5
(4) East Jefferson	3
(3) Bolton	1
(10) Leesville	1
(12) Benton	1

[Sanofi-Aventis]

Feb 5, 2015 18:58:19 GMT -6 p_malinich said:

Division II picks
(most diverse group of picks - includes 1 late entry)

Champion	Picks
(1) Beau Chene	16
(5) Vandebilt	11
(7) Ben Franklin	7
(2) St. Michael	5
(4) East Jefferson	3
(3) Bolton	1
(10) Leesville	1
(12) Benton	1

You let Pokle play?? Who else would pick Bolton!

[p_malinich]

Division III picks
(all top 4 with good representation)

Champion	Picks
(3) Northlake Christian	15
(2) University	11
(4) Newman	8
(1) St. Louis	7
(12) Lusher Charter	1
(15) Haynes	1
(9) St. Charles	1

[p_malinich]

Feb 5, 2015 19:16:54 GMT -6 Sanofi-Aventis said:

Feb 5, 2015 18:58:19 GMT -6 p_malinich said:

Division II picks
(most diverse group of picks - includes 1 late entry)

Champion	Picks
(1) Beau Chene	16
(5) Vandebilt	11
(7) Ben Franklin	7
(2) St. Michael	5
(4) East Jefferson	3
(3) Bolton	1
(10) Leesville	1
(12) Benton	1

You let Pokle play?? Who else would pick Bolton!

Haters gonna hate...

[p_malinich]

Feb 5, 2015 16:30:49 GMT -6 nolapelota said:

Feb 4, 2015 7:38:42 GMT -6 p_malinich said:

It will be very interesting.  I expect that Power Ratings will create issues (i.e. 15 game rule, the forfeiting implementation, etc) and I also expect that Power Ratings will get blamed for things that are just part of the game (i.e. any team on any day.)  

Keep in mind that last year's finals were #2 over #8 (DI), #8 over #3 (DII), and #5 over #2 (DIII).  Not a single #1 seed in the finals and 2 of the winners were ranked 5th or lower.  If that were to happen this year, I could almost guarantee that it would be the fault of the Power Ratings (which by the way were not in effect last year).  

Just food for thought (and no I do not believe Power Ratings are infallible either).  Regardless, the first round and related discussions should be fun.

Paul you are quoting the matchup ranking numbers from coach seeding.  But the numbers for the theorectical computer seeding last year were different. and I'm not talking about the final computer seeding that took into account the results of the playoffs. I'm talking about the ones that would have been used to seed the playoffs. 

In that computer ranking case, Lusher was supposed to be ranked about 11th I think.  And that wasn't the only strange thing.  The computer had Menard 2nd or 3rd, etc.  Fortunately the coach seed last year was pretty good.  Now, the year before was a different animal.. 

Yes, I'm quoting the #'s from the coaches' seeding.  The reason is that was the system in place last year & generated the results I described.  My point is that if the PR were to generate those same results this year, it would be criticized by some.  

I don't want to compare PR year to year because any advantages that come with seeding need to play out.  That's why I'm comparing last year's coaches' seeding and its outcome to this year's PR and its eventual outcomes.  That compares system-to-system (which may not mean anything, but I'd like to see it).

As far as last year, Lusher PR would've been 9 (rather than 11) and Menard was at 4 (not 2 or 3).  That is based at end of season (I have various files saved from throughout the year).  While you might say we would've had a tougher time en route to the State Championship from #9 than we did from #5, I might disagree.  We had to face (and beat) 2 defending State Champions (and current year contenders) before we ever got to the Championship game.  

For what it's worth, if I look at that bracket from #9, we would have still faced Episcopal BR, St. Louis, and Northlake but would have swapped the order some.  What would've changed was facing Ouachita Christian instead of Ascension Episcopal and then Westminster Christian (or Catholic NI since we would've dropped) rather than St. Charles.

For me the jury is still out.  I'm not a 100% advocate of the PR (no matter how well I understand them & try to help others do the same).  I do want to see how a full year of just PR plays out & we should know that by the end of February Frenzy.

[pOkLE]

Feb 5, 2015 19:16:54 GMT -6 Sanofi-Aventis said:

Feb 5, 2015 18:58:19 GMT -6 p_malinich said:

Division II picks
(most diverse group of picks - includes 1 late entry)

Champion	Picks
(1) Beau Chene	16
(5) Vandebilt	11
(7) Ben Franklin	7
(2) St. Michael	5
(4) East Jefferson	3
(3) Bolton	1
(10) Leesville	1
(12) Benton	1

You let Pokle play?? Who else would pick Bolton!

No one would have picked us to get a 3rd seed either....aha! [can't quite type or correctly express the "aha" from Eddie Murphy in Coming to America that I'm going for here]

[loJic]

Feb 5, 2015 20:13:13 GMT -6 pOkLE said:

Feb 5, 2015 19:16:54 GMT -6 Sanofi-Aventis said:

You let Pokle play?? Who else would pick Bolton!

No one would have picked us to get a 3rd seed either..aha! [can't quite type or correctly express the "aha" from Eddie Murphy in Coming to America that I'm going for here]

Waiter, try the soup

[pOkLE]

Feb 5, 2015 20:25:45 GMT -6 loJic said:

Feb 5, 2015 20:13:13 GMT -6 pOkLE said:

No one would have picked us to get a 3rd seed either..aha! [can't quite type or correctly express the "aha" from Eddie Murphy in Coming to America that I'm going for here]

Waiter, try the soup

Where's the spoon?

[chelsea007]

Round One upset picks
Fontainebleau
Baton Rouge
Dutchtown
St. Thomas Aq.
Menard
Caddo Magnet
Oh, and St. Paul to win state.

[p_malinich]

Feb 6, 2015 6:46:26 GMT -6 chelsea007 said:

Round One upset picks
Fontainebleau
Baton Rouge
Dutchtown
St. Thomas Aq.
Menard
Caddo Magnet
Oh, and St. Paul to win state.

You're 2-1 so far with your upset picks.

[p_malinich]

Division I Leaderboard
(after Round 1)

On the strength of correctly picking all 3 DI "upsets," Larry Chambless is the lone contestant in 1st place with a perfect score of 16.  Congrats on being in 1st in DI after the first round.

Rank	Contestant	Score
1	Larry Chambless	16
2	ssems4691	15
2	vistajay	15
2	kevin	15
2	firebruin	15
2	Ryan Redmond	15
2	Bigchief 1	15
2	Barnacle13	15
9	theirishman	14
9	Soccermom17	14
9	TacoTuesday	14
9	jeremy	14
9	Stephen Viguerie	14
9	sonics3	14
9	midfielder10	14
9	Mackie Talbot	14
9	David Wilber	14

NOTE:  13 contestants are tied for 18th with 13 points.

[p_malinich]

Division II Leaderboard
(after Round 1)

0 "upsets" in D2 leads to 14 contestants tied for 1st place with a perfect score of 16.  

Rank	Predictor	Score
1	bob	16
1	Ray Linton	16
1	PFrick	16
1	upper90	16
1	jannymeza	16
1	deobserver	16
1	pokle	16
1	sure traction	16
1	data nerd	16
1	Stephen Viguerie	16
1	Tarheel	16
1	premier	16
1	soccccer	16
1	tiger14	16

NOTE:  17 contestants are tied for 15th with 15 points.  13 contestants are tied for 32nd with 14 points.

[p_malinich]

Division III Leaderboard
(after Round 1)

2 contestants correctly picked both DIII "upsets" and share 1st place with perfect scores of 16.  Congrats to jannymeza and ryan roussel on being in 1st in DIII after the first round.

Rank	Predictor	Score
1	jannymeza	16
1	ryan roussel	16
3	usfgk	15
3	theirishman	15
3	Ray Linton	15
3	warrior16	15
3	PFrick	15
3	thebirdistheword	15
3	upper90	15
3	john	15
3	squeak11	15
3	sure traction	15
3	Stephen Viguerie	15
3	CatCoach	15
3	Tarheel	15
3	Cameron Gautreaux	15
3	soccccer	15
3	sam	15
3	Mackie Talbot	15

NOTE:  16 contestants are tied for 20th with 14 points.

[chelsea007]

4-2 on the upset picks.

[p_malinich]

In effort to recognize ALL of our participants, here's the complete list of players while everyone's still in the running (my version of a coke and a trophy):

DIVISION I

Rank	Score	Contestants	*
1	16	Larry Chambless
2	15	Barnacle13, Bigchief 1, firebruin, kevin, Ryan Redmond, ssems4691, vistajay
9	14	David Wilber, jeremy, Mackie Talbot, midfielder10, Soccermom17, sonics3,  Stephen Viguerie, TacoTuesday, theirishman
18	13	The Nightmare, blaugranas, CaptainNemo, CatCoach, data nerd, raidernation,  Ray Linton, sam, sure traction, thebirdistheword, upper90, usfgk, WINNER
31	12	bob, Cameron Gautreaux, Copakid14, deobserver, jannymeza, Larry Newby, mv24, PFrick, premier, PutMeInCoach2, Rabid Monkey, soccccer,  squeak11
44	11	futbolfiend, pokle, sissoko, Steven Gerrard, Tarheel, Will Flowers
50	10	Barracuda, warrior16
52	14 (late)	Tanner Sanburn

DIVISION II

Rank	Score	Contestants	*
1	16	bob, data nerd, deobserver, jannymeza, PFrick, pokle, premier, Ray Linton,  soccccer, Stephen Viguerie, sure traction, Tarheel, tiger14, upper90
15	15	Barnacle13, The Nightmare, Cameron Gautreaux, CaptainNemo, Copakid14, jeremy, kevin, midfielder10, PutMeInCoach2,  raidernation, sonics3, squeak11, StevenGerrard, thebirdistheword, theirishman,  usfgk, warrior16
32	14	Backofthenet, Barracuda, CatCoach, D2 Bracket Predictor, David Wilber, firebruin, futbolfiend, mv24, Rabid Monkey, sam, Soccermom17,  vistajay, WINNER
45	16 (late)	Tanner Sanburn
46	15 (late)	BenchWarmer2300, reese smith
48	5 (late)	Johnathon Price

DIVISION III

Rank	Score	Contestants	*
1	16	jannymeza, ryan roussel
2	15	CameronGautreaux, CatCoach, john, MackieTalbot, PFrick, RayLinton, sam, soccccer,  squeak11, StephenViguerie, suretraction, Tarheel, thebirdistheword, theirishman,  upper90, usfgk, warrior16
20	14	Barnacle13, The Nightmare, bob, CaptainNemo, Copakid14, data nerd, firebruin, jeffey, kevin, midfielder10, premier, PutMeInCoach2,  Rabid Monkey, raidernation, Soccermom17, sonics3
36	13	Barracuda, David Wilber, futbolfiend, Matt, mv24, pokle, soccermom3
43	12	odds, Steven Gerrard

[p_malinich]

And in the race for Boys GRAND Champion, here are the top 16:

Predictor	**D1**	**D2**	**D3**	***Total***
Stephen Viguerie	14	16	15	45
Barnacle13	15	15	14	44
jannymeza	12	16	16	44
kevin	15	15	14	44
Ray Linton	13	16	15	44
sure traction	13	16	15	44
theirishman	14	15	15	44
upper90	13	16	15	44
data nerd	13	16	14	43
firebruin	15	14	14	43
midfielder10	14	15	14	43
PFrick	12	16	15	43
soccccer	12	16	15	43
sonics3	14	15	14	43
thebirdistheword	13	15	15	43
usfgk	13	15	15	43

[chelsea007]

Round 2 upset picks.
Fontainebleau
Bonnabel
Lafayette
Grace King

None in the other Divisions

[p_malinich]

I don't believe the point scale has been summarized in any one spot (and I've received a few questions). So here's how I think it will take place. Since it's a free program, they didn't give me any options so we have their default.

Round 1 = 1 ea (max of 16)
Round 2 = 2 ea (max of 16)
QF = 4 ea (max of 16)
SF = 8 ea (max of 16)
Final = 16 ea (max of 16)

Therefore, a perfect score would be 80.