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Post by swami on Feb 24, 2015 13:22:46 GMT -6
Thanks! So considering those criteria, what was your take on the foul? I was ~40 yards from the play and per my observation; The direction of the play > ~5 yards outside left goal post The location of the foul > ~25yards from goal The proximity of the player to the ball > both players attempting to gain control of ball The probability of controlling the ball > 50/50 The location and number of opponents > within 15 yards The opportunity for the attempt on goal > from 25 yards out, ~45° angle, and no ball control yet - 0% I viewed it from the pressbox. I feel there is a last defender rule but it is only part of Law 12. In order for a player to be sent off for denying an "obvious goal-scoring opportunity," four elements must be present: Number of Defenders -- not more than one defender between the foul and the goal, not counting the defender who committed the foul . This element was satisfied. Distance to goal -- the closer the foul is to the goal, the more likely it is an obvious goal-scoring opportunity . This is the best argument for the yellow card but also reinforces what i said about being taught to foul hard when beaten outside the box, even if it means a card. To me, this element is abused. Distance to ball -- the attacker must have been close enough to the ball at the time of the foul to have continued playing the ball . This element was satisfied. Direction of play -- the attacker must have been moving toward the goal at the time the foul was committed. This element was satisfied. If any of these 4 elements are absent, no send off. The problem is there is a huge variation in shot distance. Obviously if the fouls is 40+ yards out, GSO not obvious. If inside the 6, GSO is obvious. Yet, I have seen plenty of goals scored from the 20 yard range.
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Post by swami on Feb 24, 2015 13:24:01 GMT -6
Thanks! So considering those criteria, what was your take on the foul? I was ~40 yards from the play and per my observation; The direction of the play > ~5 yards outside left goal post The location of the foul > ~25yards from goal The proximity of the player to the ball > both players attempting to gain control of ball The probability of controlling the ball > 50/50 The location and number of opponents > within 15 yards The opportunity for the attempt on goal > from 25 yards out, ~45° angle, and no ball control yet - 0% I viewed it from the pressbox. I feel there is a last defender rule but it is only part of Law 12. In order for a player to be sent off for denying an "obvious goal-scoring opportunity," four elements must be present: Number of Defenders -- not more than one defender between the foul and the goal, not counting the defender who committed the foul . This element was satisfied. Distance to goal -- the closer the foul is to the goal, the more likely it is an obvious goal-scoring opportunity . This is the best argument for the yellow card but also reinforces what i said about being taught to foul hard when beaten outside the box, even if it means a card. To me, this element is abused. Distance to ball -- the attacker must have been close enough to the ball at the time of the foul to have continued playing the ball . This element was satisfied. Direction of play -- the attacker must have been moving toward the goal at the time the foul was committed. This element was satisfied. If any of these 4 elements are absent, no send off. The problem is there is a huge variation in shot distance. Obviously if the fouls is 40+ yards out, GSO not obvious. If inside the 6, GSO is obvious. Yet, I have seen plenty of goals scored from the 20 yard range.
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Post by happyjack on Feb 24, 2015 15:21:59 GMT -6
Colina once sent off a player 1 yard from halfway line for this...said if the player hadn't been fouled he has clear run to goal, no one would catch him.
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Post by smee on Feb 24, 2015 19:41:23 GMT -6
Colina once sent off a player 1 yard from halfway line for this.said if the player hadn't been fouled he has clear run to goal, no one would catch him. Guessing this was not a high school game Mr. Colina was on? I also saw Colina see a player stamp on a prone player as retaliation for a previous bad tackle and do nothing about it (mid 90s, European cup game).
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