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Post by time2retire on Feb 1, 2017 1:52:31 GMT -6
The season has finally come to a close. Here is some compiled data of all reported red cards this season:
154 reported -127 boys, 27 girls -140 players, 14 coaches -149 varsity, 5 JV
Reasons for red cards: -8 Serious Foul Play -57 Violent Conduct (includes fighting) -10 Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity by Foul -10 Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity by Handling -25 Abusive/Insulting/Offensive Language or Gestures -39 Second Caution in the same Match -2 Spitting -3 Taunting
There are 3 players sitting on 2 red cards.
I do have data showing the number of cards issued by each referee association, however, I believe this data to be significantly flawed due to the lack of reports from one area.
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Post by sonics3 on Feb 2, 2017 7:03:58 GMT -6
The season has finally come to a close. Here is some compiled data of all reported red cards this season: 154 reported -127 boys, 27 girls -140 players, 14 coaches -149 varsity, 5 JV Reasons for red cards: -8 Serious Foul Play -57 Violent Conduct (includes fighting) -10 Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity by Foul -10 Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity by Handling -25 Abusive/Insulting/Offensive Language or Gestures -39 Second Caution in the same Match -2 Spitting -3 Taunting There are 3 players sitting on 2 red cards. I do have data showing the number of cards issued by each referee association, however, I believe this data to be significantly flawed due to the lack of reports from one area. How does this compare to years past?
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Post by time2retire on Feb 2, 2017 7:15:18 GMT -6
The season has finally come to a close. Here is some compiled data of all reported red cards this season: 154 reported -127 boys, 27 girls -140 players, 14 coaches -149 varsity, 5 JV Reasons for red cards: -8 Serious Foul Play -57 Violent Conduct (includes fighting) -10 Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity by Foul -10 Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity by Handling -25 Abusive/Insulting/Offensive Language or Gestures -39 Second Caution in the same Match -2 Spitting -3 Taunting There are 3 players sitting on 2 red cards. I do have data showing the number of cards issued by each referee association, however, I believe this data to be significantly flawed due to the lack of reports from one area. How does this compare to years past? Last year I think we ended up with 125. So definitely an increase, particularly with fighting. But I know for sure several red cards were not reported, by the game threads on this site and no report made. One large area reported about 25-30% of the red cards issued, I am nearly certain of this. So posting those numbers would show a clear abnormality in reporting.
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Post by sonics3 on Feb 2, 2017 12:32:04 GMT -6
How does this compare to years past? Last year I think we ended up with 125. So definitely an increase, particularly with fighting. But I know for sure several red cards were not reported, by the game threads on this site and no report made. One large area reported about 25-30% of the red cards issued, I am nearly certain of this. So posting those numbers would show a clear abnormality in reporting. Thanks for the information. Interesting stats. Also shows that we as club coaches and high school coaches need to do a better job of teaching our players to keep their composure. The red cards for fighting, spitting, and taunting are a bit troubling. Just curious, is there a way that you can tell if the school reported the red cards and not the referee? I can understand a referee not reporting a two yellow situation. Perhaps using hindsight thinking he/she may have not gotten it correct and then informing the coach that it wouldn't be reported (not ok by the rules, just personal opinion).
One more question I hope you can clarify. I was at a game approximately a month ago and saw a situation where a keeper DOGSO. The play resulted in a penalty, but no card issued. As I knew the referee, I asked him in passing after the match. All he told me was that the penalty/punishment for DOGSO was changed depending on the outcome of the play. Can you explain/clarify? Thanks for your input.
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Post by time2retire on Feb 2, 2017 12:59:38 GMT -6
Last year I think we ended up with 125. So definitely an increase, particularly with fighting. But I know for sure several red cards were not reported, by the game threads on this site and no report made. One large area reported about 25-30% of the red cards issued, I am nearly certain of this. So posting those numbers would show a clear abnormality in reporting. Thanks for the information. Interesting stats. Also shows that we as club coaches and high school coaches need to do a better job of teaching our players to keep their composure. The red cards for fighting, spitting, and taunting are a bit troubling. Just curious, is there a way that you can tell if the school reported the red cards and not the referee? I can understand a referee not reporting a two yellow situation. Perhaps using hindsight thinking he/she may have not gotten it correct and then informing the coach that it wouldn't be reported (not ok by the rules, just personal opinion).
One more question I hope you can clarify. I was at a game approximately a month ago and saw a situation where a keeper DOGSO. The play resulted in a penalty, but no card issued. As I knew the referee, I asked him in passing after the match. All he told me was that the penalty/punishment for DOGSO was changed depending on the outcome of the play. Can you explain/clarify? Thanks for your input.
All of the reports I read are submitted by the referee in the LHSAA database. In club, there were changes with DOGSO when the foul occurs in the penalty area and the defender makes a legitimate attempt at the ball. The theory is that the PK restores the GSO. But this does not apply in HS (yet).
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Post by sonics3 on Feb 2, 2017 15:08:12 GMT -6
Ok. Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.
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Post by time2retire on Feb 3, 2017 8:16:33 GMT -6
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