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Post by swlaBarbeFan on Dec 18, 2017 9:30:13 GMT -6
This past weekend we played in the LA showcase and we had an incident where early in the game around the 6th minute our goalkeeper came off his line to retrieve a ball in the air. Our keeper got to the ball first while he was in air, the opposing player however was second to but didn't even challenge for the ball he ran straight through, clipped out keeper's leg causing our keeper to flip and land on his side. Keeper lost control of the ball and opposing team got to it first and scored. No foul was given and no goal disallowed, but our keeper ended up injured because of the play. I'm just curious as to what the rules for goalkeeper protection are because it seemed certain to me that foul deserved a card and possible red?
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Post by time2retire on Dec 18, 2017 11:37:31 GMT -6
Was the keeper straight up or did he have a lot of momentum? Could the attacker have played the ball? Did the keeper actually possess the ball?
A goalkeeper has one privilege alone, and even that is limited to an 18x44 area.
Far too many people believe that when a goalkeeper is touched - even if he initiates the contact - that a foul should be called on the attacker. Especially when goalkeepers come out to challenge.
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Post by swlaBarbeFan on Dec 18, 2017 12:45:02 GMT -6
Was the keeper straight up or did he have a lot of momentum? Could the attacker have played the ball? Did the keeper actually possess the ball? A goalkeeper has one privilege alone, and even that is limited to an 18x44 area. Far too many people believe that when a goalkeeper is touched - even if he initiates the contact - that a foul should be called on the attacker. Especially when goalkeepers come out to challenge. The keeper definitely had momentum yes, but he gained possession of the ball while he was in the air and he was on the way down when the contact was initiated. The attacker could've peeled off in time but I guess he was too busy looking at the ball rightfully so wanting to score. Attacker initiated the contact and keeper went down. |
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Post by Sanofi-Aventis on Dec 18, 2017 13:23:33 GMT -6
NISOA put out A Comparative Study of Rules and Laws and it states in NFHS rules, “a keeper cannot be charged in his own penalty area unless dribbling ball with his feet or obstructing”.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Dec 19, 2017 16:56:35 GMT -6
NISOA put out A Comparative Study of Rules and Laws and it states in NFHS rules, “a keeper cannot be charged in his own penalty area unless dribbling ball with his feet or obstructing”. This is definitely not being called this way. |
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Post by happyjack on Dec 22, 2017 11:45:15 GMT -6
For a charge to be legal both players must be in the ground. You can’t legally charge a person who has jumped into the air tonolay the ball
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Post by beauchenecoach on Dec 29, 2017 0:47:19 GMT -6
This past weekend we played in the LA showcase and we had an incident where early in the game around the 6th minute our goalkeeper came off his line to retrieve a ball in the air. Our keeper got to the ball first while he was in air, the opposing player however was second to but didn't even challenge for the ball he ran straight through, clipped out keeper's leg causing our keeper to flip and land on his side. Keeper lost control of the ball and opposing team got to it first and scored. No foul was given and no goal disallowed, but our keeper ended up injured because of the play. I'm just curious as to what the rules for goalkeeper protection are because it seemed certain to me that foul deserved a card and possible red? Was the keeper straight up or did he have a lot of momentum? Could the attacker have played the ball? Did the keeper actually possess the ball? A goalkeeper has one privilege alone, and even that is limited to an 18x44 area. Far too many people believe that when a goalkeeper is touched - even if he initiates the contact - that a foul should be called on the attacker. Especially when goalkeepers come out to challenge. The irony in this conversation is really, really, well... Ironic! |
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Post by swlaBarbeFan on Dec 29, 2017 13:30:57 GMT -6
This past weekend we played in the LA showcase and we had an incident where early in the game around the 6th minute our goalkeeper came off his line to retrieve a ball in the air. Our keeper got to the ball first while he was in air, the opposing player however was second to but didn't even challenge for the ball he ran straight through, clipped out keeper's leg causing our keeper to flip and land on his side. Keeper lost control of the ball and opposing team got to it first and scored. No foul was given and no goal disallowed, but our keeper ended up injured because of the play. I'm just curious as to what the rules for goalkeeper protection are because it seemed certain to me that foul deserved a card and possible red? Was the keeper straight up or did he have a lot of momentum? Could the attacker have played the ball? Did the keeper actually possess the ball? A goalkeeper has one privilege alone, and even that is limited to an 18x44 area. Far too many people believe that when a goalkeeper is touched - even if he initiates the contact - that a foul should be called on the attacker. Especially when goalkeepers come out to challenge. The irony in this conversation is really, really, well. Ironic! Just trying to learn for myself and the sake of my son Coach lol.. your team is quality and I hope it takes you far into your season. I'm not here to referee bash or anything. |
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Post by laffysoccermom on Dec 29, 2017 17:26:19 GMT -6
Question- rereading original comment and I’m not clear if goal was allowed?
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Post by swlaBarbeFan on Dec 29, 2017 17:43:05 GMT -6
Question- rereading original comment and I’m not clear if goal was allowed? Yes, it was allowed |
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Post by cajunsoccerguy on Dec 29, 2017 18:43:11 GMT -6
Question- rereading original comment and I’m not clear if goal was allowed? If you are truly interested in learning, there is a new referee class held in the Lake Charles area every August. We would love to have someone who enjoys the game and is motivated to increase their knowledge base and make it so that kids can play the game. Email referee@cscsoccerclub.org for more information. |
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Post by wildcatstriker on Dec 15, 2018 0:55:10 GMT -6
To add to this.
Tonight in the first half a long ball was played into the Box that our GK came to get. He was +\- 5 yards inside his box. He clearly had possession, without a bobble, and the attacker took a minimum of 4 steps (I think it was more as he was clearly not inside the box when GK got clear possession), and the attacker continued full speed making contact with the GK, almost knocking him down. No call.
Fast forward to second half, another long ball into the box. About 5 yes off the end line between the edge of the 6 and 18. Keeper again clearly has ball on ground and is moving towards getting up. As he does, the same attacking player, this time who was more than 7 yards away, continues sprint at GK, and asGK starts to roll to get up, tries to kick the ball and flies over the top.
At this point, center pauses game and approaches GK and threatens straight red the next time his leg makes contact with attacking player while "defending himself ".
I know it has been a couple years, but this style of officiating seems to promote injuries for GK's and Attackers.
Can someone help break down why the Center, with neither of these 50/50 balls, and NO scoring opportunity, would hold this against the GK.?
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Post by cardsinhand on Dec 17, 2018 7:34:30 GMT -6
I cannot answer as to what the referee was thinking or doing at this game (I am not the referee nor was I there), however, if you truly want to protect the players, lets teach them not to play long balls over the top. It usually results in a bad collision and make me run WAY too much. Therefore it will also protect the referees too. ;-)
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Post by wildcatstriker on Dec 17, 2018 16:30:24 GMT -6
I cannot answer as to what the referee was thinking or doing at this game (I am not the referee nor was I there), however, if you truly want to protect the players, lets teach them not to play long balls over the top. It usually results in a bad collision and make me run WAY too much. Therefore it will also protect the referees too. ;-) I agree. Can that get in for this year or does it have to wait for next year? |
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Post by smee on Dec 20, 2018 15:16:11 GMT -6
For a charge to be legal both players must be in the ground. You can’t legally charge a person who has jumped into the air tonolay the ball This used to be very clearly spelled out in the NFHS ref rules book. For a legal charge, both players need to have at least one foot on the ground. |
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