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Post by rocksccrstar on Feb 8, 2005 11:52:59 GMT -6
Extrapolating from what we have heard from some of you, you are ready to close all schools starting this Thursday after Mardi Gras, and rely on hands on learning experiences from our children to make it successfully in life. Nothing better then a sound old fashioned school education using the Socratic methods to achieve our goals...in soccer that's to say! wlfrocksccrstar, I entirely feel for you, when you say you are a God when you coach U5 or U6... I have been there myself 4 years, and there is nothing more humbling than to experience that age group... I am a teacher first, a coach second, and in my class I teach primarily through hands on exercises. And I don't know how long it has been since you have been in school but there are very few teachers who teach ONLY out of a textbook. Studies have shown that children learn better when they apply knowledge in "hands on" activities. So how you determined that we should let kids out of school is beyond me. But I am starting to realize so is this post. You are a master at twisting words, I teach an essay class to high school students and you are doing the "avoidance" answer. You are eloquently (because you are a nice writer in terms of vocab and sentence structure) avoiding everyone's questions. If you were my student I would tell you to take your boots off, quit wading in it and answer the question that was put forth. Otherwise I would make you do one of my really boring homework assignments, like interviewing your parents, or writing "collage" poetry (all stuff not found in a text book). And I did not call myself a God as you stated in your post, I said anyone who could do it and keep their sanity is. I tried it for two years, learned allthe patience I needed. I will take a high school age team anyday. In addition I will pose some questions to you.... Are you not proud of your accomplishments in soccer? Do you not want to share what you have done to benefit the soccer community? This I don't understand because I am proud of everything I have done in the world of soccer and would happily tell someone where I have played and coached. I just don't get it
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Post by lhssoccerfan on Feb 8, 2005 12:06:04 GMT -6
I did my homework CoachRay...Do I get an "A?"
Boo Radley was a myth...
Characteristics:
1. Head like a skull 2. Leaves tracks in the backyard during the night 3. Scratches on people's screen doors while they sleep 4. Eats raw squirrels and cats 5. Has blood stained hands 6. Has scarred face, eyes pop out, and he drools
Childhood experiences:
1. Rebellious teen who was locked up at home for approximately twelve years 2. Stabbed his father in the leg one day while cutting up the newspaper 3. Locked in the courthouse basement, then released before he died from the molds 4. Never seen since
Very dramatic, but not very plausible...Uhhh, can I be a soccer coach now?
So Long...lhssoccerfan
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Post by lhssoccerfan on Feb 8, 2005 12:30:26 GMT -6
I've identified a new mental dysfunction...Call Sigmund quick...
Eclectic Tangential Avoidance Syndrome...
Hey CoachRay...How's the decompression chamber workin'?
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Post by rocksccrstar on Feb 8, 2005 12:33:16 GMT -6
Oh yes and since the book's themes deal with the coexistence of good and evil, the importance of moral education, and the existence of social inequality I can start to see maybe where we are going here-----
In soccer and specifically Louisiana soccer we need to explore the moral nature of human beings-- or rather that all people are essentially good or essentially evil, and if we look at it from a player's perspective (much like Scout) we see that they see the soccer world with the innocence of children (right, high school boys?) and that coaches have seen evil and know it exists and have incorporated it into their world. And there are also themes of hatred (Rivalries between teams?), prejudice, and ignorance. And then there is Atticus Finch (rainbowcycle?) who is the voice of moral reason in the book. He is the embodiment of all that is just.
And the idea of social inequality----are we talking about how some soccer teams have more talent than others.
RUBBISH!!
Well I am truly amazed because after all of that I still think that "To Kill a Mockingbird" is a book that teaches our children about the loss of innocence, doing the right thing, to speak out against racial prejudices and that evil is part of the world, even in small town america.
Now what it has to do with soccer and coaching I am still puzzled. I tried to make it fit but its just hogwash!
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Post by rocksccrstar on Feb 8, 2005 12:34:28 GMT -6
Hey coachray after all of that Can I get in the decompression chamber?
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Post by manchurianman on Feb 8, 2005 13:18:03 GMT -6
Manchurian, Coach Ray is a big guy, and I mean a really big guy. Don't believe for one second, Manchurian, that because Coach Ray and I disagree on a few points..., all right on many points, it doesn't mean that we don't have any feelings of mutual respect. So long, Rainbowcycle From the post I have read of Coachray on this forum, I think you make an assumption that would take a very big leap of faith if you think there is feelings of mutual respect.
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Post by lhssoccerfan on Feb 8, 2005 13:51:20 GMT -6
News Flash...Just got a call from Sigmund... I was close...It is actually called... Eclectically Advanced Tangential Myopic Eccentricity...more commonly referred to as EATME!! I also heard that CoachRay hit the wrong button on the chamber. He punched the Compression button and is now a 3'4" 36 lb. midget... C'mon Coach...Where ya at? Oops, there he is under my chair...
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Post by manchurianman on Feb 8, 2005 14:24:05 GMT -6
That's funny ;D
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Post by Rainbowcycle on Feb 8, 2005 16:18:03 GMT -6
Coach Ray, I hope you are all right and did manage to push the correct button, ... just in case dial 911 and tell the paramedics it is a deep case of depression, exhibiting severe symptoms of withdrawal. Have I gotten the others to talk or what...?! When you read in favor of sarcasm or irony, or under the pretext of finding the literal meaning... , the results of your reading will totally differ from the intended messages... It wouldn't be far from saying completely contadictory actually. coach ray, COACH RAY, your parents are waiting for you in the main lobby...! How you read a text and in what context will seriously affect its outcome on your minds and on other people's minds... To tell you the truth, I partially agree with most of what you are saying; however, I find your imagination to be quite fertile at times: a fountain of life diverging quite a bit from what I intented to convey in the first place. The main contradiction is that, I have never seen so much "literature" written about soccer in my life. CPR needed, a case of deep allergic reaction to acute literature...affecting Coach Ray! You know what guys...? We are going to prove all those academic oriented pedagogues, that we soccer coaches are not the so-called jocks and demagogues they pretend us to be... Panic attack, panic attack! Coach Ray stay calm, stay very calm and breath deeply! You are suffering from hyperventilation. I am all for hands on experience with a deep blend of Socratic rhetoric and old fashioned imparted knowledge so we can better base our sound judgements, with good argumentation and enough quotes from scholars and critics to make our main point stand without mortar. Do we need a post mortem analysis!? Our message will be clear to the world: Soccer has its place in a classroom. Soccer is a force to be reckoned with, and should be dealt with accordingly in our systems of learning. False alarm, False alarm, everyone stays calm, Coach Ray is doing great. He was just having a healthy drink reading "to Kill a Mocking Bird " in hiding! He'll get back in touch with you in a few months when he 'll be finished coloring the book...! Just kidding guys! Have a happy Mardi Gras tomorrow! So long, Rainbowcycle
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Post by coachray40 on Feb 8, 2005 17:12:20 GMT -6
Greetings from the decompression chamber!
Review-
Atticus Finch, War and Peace, Socrates, American teaching method, and of course medicine and psychology (E.A.T.M.E--LHSsoccer--you are funny dude--we need to get a chance to talk more!!) Well now isnt this a well rounded thread. hmm........... well rounded--just like me according to Rainbow: "he's a really big guy" --perhaps a double entendre there? (nice word from a coloring book boy like me)
Wolfrock wants to get in the chamber with me.. cool..I think youre cute too! (Van Halen in the background: "Got it made got it made got it made....I'm Hot for Teacher!"
And best yet--the word "extrapolating" has appeared in this thread twice.
Congrats all this is the most intelligent thread to date.
Rainbow--no deep depression here. Just on to the next day. Many thanks for your props to my team. That being said, I still wish you would take less time and make your point without making me think I'm reading "A Midsummer nights dream" (Good--now we have some Shakespeare)
..............and answer the question.
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Post by goat on Feb 8, 2005 17:14:46 GMT -6
hey rainbow just answer the questions asked of you, or do you want me to tell everyone your soccer experiance in louisiana?
i don't want to fight but really you get on this board and ask and even demand that we answer your questions but you won't do the same. no one is attacking you. it is your topic, you asked who had a license and how important it is to have one. so tell us what license you hold and where did you earn it.? how has it helped you in the past as a coach and why? that is not an attack! as a matter of fact answering the questions would give your topic and your position on this topic creditbility, (wouldn't it?).
go in peace rainbow i don't want to fight i just want an answer!
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Post by manchurianman on Feb 8, 2005 18:17:46 GMT -6
Did anyone else notice how Rainbow so easily changed the subject from the original question asked of him. Now according to Rainbow this topic is one where humor is all that is allowed. Funny how he can make these type rules for a topic.
Run, dodge, duck, confuse, change the subject seem to be his tricks in these forums.
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Post by rocksccrstar on Feb 8, 2005 18:33:16 GMT -6
Yea be proud of what you did!!
I just coached the greatest bunch of boys to a 4-16-1 season and I couldn't be prouder of my role as their coach and their efforts on the field. I think I am a good coach not becuase my team won anything but because they are proud of their efforts, they had fun and they learned some things along the way.
BE PROUD OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS!!
Coachray you CRACK ME UP!! ;D
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Post by manchurianman on Feb 8, 2005 18:45:40 GMT -6
I was once told by someone I considered a good coach how he judged if he had been successful. It wasn't by the number of games he won but by the number of players that wanted to play for him the next season. Granted it wasn't high school but I still thought he was definitely on the right track about what is success.
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Post by goat on Feb 8, 2005 18:48:40 GMT -6
for the record i happen to agree with rainbows position on this topic. i have a "D" license but hve only coached up to the u-12 rec level. i agree with bouree 100% about coaches going to a ref clinic or even better taking the full course. like rainbow said you get more out of it because you can draw on the teachers experiance as a ref, (did i just agree with rainbow, man that hurts).
while i was on the board at lysa we passed a bi law stating that all select coaches have a "C" license or higher. will all so hired a director of coaching, the person holding this position must have a "B" license or higher.
but come on rainbow answer the question!
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Post by Rainbowcycle on Feb 8, 2005 19:08:40 GMT -6
All right Goat and Manchurian I give in and will answer the question asked on this thread , it reads if you recall correctly: "How many Lafayette alumni talented players earned a USSF or NSCAA Coaching Degree?"
To my knowledge, none. I only know about Dwayne Bergeron, who attended Comeaux High. He earned his master's degree and a USSF "B" license.
Why is that?
Answer us, Rainbowcycle
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Post by bouree on Feb 8, 2005 19:45:28 GMT -6
Rainbowcycle, you are just one weird dude...
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Post by manchurianman on Feb 8, 2005 19:59:13 GMT -6
Rainbow The question that evolved from the thread you started was about your coaching experience and what level USSF coaching license you hold. You were saying how coaches and players could improve by attening these clinics and thereby upgrading their coaching skills.
You said: >>> I can vouch for it having gone to several of those: at the University of North Carolina, at Chapel Hill...where I met Anson Dorance; at the Cocoa National Soccer Training Facility, in Florida...where I had the pleasure to meet "Timo" and Bob Gansler with the US National Team of the time, and Tony DiCicco National Goalkeeper Coach at the time; at Trinity College, in San Antonio, in Texas, where I met Barry Gorman and John Bluem among others...; all that while attending those licensing courses. <<<
The question of your USSF license and teams you have coached was asked because you were talking about all the licensing courses you had attended. You mentioned near ever big name in soccer and how you had picked their brains while having a foreign drink in a cosy pub. I was just wanting to know how high a level you attained in coaching after attending all those clinics and brain picking all those high level people.
I will give you this, you are nearly as good at running, back pedaling, dodging, and ducking as Ralph Dupas was.
You do know who he was don't you?
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Post by tsumi77 on Feb 8, 2005 21:21:39 GMT -6
I deleted my earlier post (the one on Socrates...)!! After rereading the original thread and the 3 pages that followed it, I thought the place was inappropriate for an History lesson ... Let's talk soccer gentlemen ;D
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Post by Rainbowcycle on Feb 9, 2005 1:25:14 GMT -6
Tsumi77, you are wrong there... soccer players have a lot to learn from history and especially from Socrates. I hope you will reconsider and re-post your nice contribution to this thread, I have gotten some messages from players with the same request.
Goat, don't call people by names, don't you know your Ten Commandments? Ten Hail Mary's, and ten Our Father's...before you go to bed, God is watching you!
By the way you mispelled Hippocrates: a Greek doctor (460 bc -377 bc) called the father of medicine who based his system on the change of moods in people...
Start by lightening up and by finding out a good laugh is the best exercise you can have on a daily basis to live longer and healthier...
Interestingly, hippo, in the name Hippocrates, is the greek root for horse... see the connection below...!
Manchurian, concerning your R. D., it reminds me of that Cajun joke, where Ti' bodeaux enters his four legged protégé in a horse race at Evangeline Downs for the first time ever, for a hefty $10,000 cash purse.
Boo' dreaux is very confident because his pure bred won every race it entered so far for these past three years... In his mind, this race is a done deal...
So when Ti' bodeaux' horse won by three lengths, Boo' dreaux in shock went to ask Ti' bodeaux for some explanation:
"Wait a minute "cher", and why in the world didn't you enter this horse before, Boo' dreaux asked him?"
Well, answered a shy Ti' bodeaux, the horse was grazing in one of my largest prairies, and for three years I have been trying to catch him, without much luck, until just now...!
And so it is with great successful soccer...to come!
So long, Rainbowcycle
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