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Post by happyjack on Feb 20, 2007 7:38:22 GMT -6
i only played sports that i enjoyed, and always enjoyed when i played. practices were an evil neccessity. no one excels at a sport they don't enjoy.
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esungoal4
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Post by esungoal4 on Feb 20, 2007 12:53:11 GMT -6
hey chillcrunk, that always puts a smile on my face too. lol its just a great feeling and about being in shape...i think soccer is the sport that can put most people in shape after just one game or practice.
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alfred
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Post by alfred on Feb 20, 2007 14:56:09 GMT -6
Posted by backofthenet12 on Today at 4:15pm i hate practices, but i love games. Stop hating on select. they are usually the better players anyways. its been a long time since i have ever seen a rec team beat a select team. there are no cliques in lafayette, the select players are just better then the rec players. Soccer is a sport that I very much love. Otherwise, I would not be on here posting all the time. But there are some players, both local and world-renowned, that have really not shown me much. I won't name any here because that's opening up a whole 'nother can of worms. Sometimes, people make so much out of certain players who are really not that good. It's just because they are the coolest person on the team or their parents pay the coaches so much money that the select coaches have to play them. It's almost like bribes. In fact, it is. It's very difficult to become better, both as a youth or professionally, if the teams you play on don't feed you the ball because they think you are trying to steal their thunder. Man, when I use to play in high school, all I wanted to do was help the team win. I used to play outside right wing in high school, other positions in rec. and select. I loved the right outside midfielder position because every player on the other team (and even some of your own teammates) forget that you are there. It is so easy to get behind the d-line with a through ball. But some people on my team thought that I wanted to score so they wouldn't feed me because the strykers wanted the goals. All I was trying to do was open things up in the middle to feed the ball back in on a cross. They were not that intelligent to read which defenses would be vulnerable to this. Towards the end of the season, they began to understand what I was trying to do. That opened up so many things. What I trying to say is that the supposed "great" players on the team don't trust anybody they have hardly played with so they will not pass the ball to you. Most high school and select coaches aren't disciplined enough (either because there is pressure not to correct certain players because of who they are or who their parents are or because they truly believe certain players can make no mistakes) to correct players when this occurs on high-profile teams. And some very good players do not play select for this same reason. On a state champ team I was on for high school soccer, I think about 30% of the players were rec. players with about three or four starters. Some players, including me, hated to put up with coaches being stuck up certain players' behinds. It's too political, but I put up with high school soccer because I loved this atmosphere and soccer itself. I couldn't do select because it would be like that year-round. some players feel that when it comes down into "crunch" time... they want the ball at their feet. they feel the pressure and live for it. they get the ball and even tho they need a goal to get it back at even their pulse isnt going any faster.. if not slower. its like they see what is going to happen before it does. and when they "take over" a game everybody knows whats going to happen. that would be the only time when i could see a player not passing. dribbling for crowd enjoyment or just to make yourself look good to not knowledgable soccer fans is wrong. in a way, you deserver the pain a defender is going to lay on you for trying to make him look stupid The way that I measure talent is how SMART/INTELLIGENT a player is on the field, not how much ball skills they have. Too many "great" players play off of instinct which you do need to have in order to excel. But in my mind, I beleive that a truly great player would be like a peyton manning out there. One who finds the mismatches, sees the openings in the defense, can set his own defense (i.e., man, zonal, low pressure, etc.) to the attacking style of the opposing team. Soccer is not just about fancy footwork anymore. I'll tell you what. I would much rather love to see a beautiful pass that came out of nowhere than I would a nutmeg. It's all about presence on the field. Saviola in the World Cup for Argentina is a great player. He had the presence of mind, while chesting the ball as a 1st touch, to notice the keeper out of poistion and volley it into the back net. I know that this is not possible for many high school players becasue they just haven't been developed that way yet. Players who want the ball to feel that pressure in "crunch" time should be looking for other players to set-up for goal opportunities. If they feel confident enough to take on a player once or twice in a game, that's fine, but the key to a great player is on-field presence. |
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Post by upper90 on Feb 20, 2007 20:54:36 GMT -6
The feeling is even better is when you call the meg before it even happens.
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Post by chillcrunk on Feb 20, 2007 22:48:03 GMT -6
hehe or you tell them its coming next time and it does. thats a great one also
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Post by chillcrunk on Feb 20, 2007 22:50:17 GMT -6
some players feel that when it comes down into "crunch" time... they want the ball at their feet. they feel the pressure and live for it. they get the ball and even tho they need a goal to get it back at even their pulse isnt going any faster.. if not slower. its like they see what is going to happen before it does. and when they "take over" a game everybody knows whats going to happen. that would be the only time when i could see a player not passing. dribbling for crowd enjoyment or just to make yourself look good to not knowledgable soccer fans is wrong. in a way, you deserver the pain a defender is going to lay on you for trying to make him look stupid The way that I measure talent is how SMART/INTELLIGENT a player is on the field, not how much ball skills they have. Too many "great" players play off of instinct which you do need to have in order to excel. But in my mind, I beleive that a truly great player would be like a peyton manning out there. One who finds the mismatches, sees the openings in the defense, can set his own defense (i.e., man, zonal, low pressure, etc.) to the attacking style of the opposing team. Soccer is not just about fancy footwork anymore. I'll tell you what. I would much rather love to see a beautiful pass that came out of nowhere than I would a nutmeg. It's all about presence on the field. Saviola in the World Cup for Argentina is a great player. He had the presence of mind, while chesting the ball as a 1st touch, to notice the keeper out of poistion and volley it into the back net. I know that this is not possible for many high school players becasue they just haven't been developed that way yet. Players who want the ball to feel that pressure in "crunch" time should be looking for other players to set-up for goal opportunities. If they feel confident enough to take on a player once or twice in a game, that's fine, but the key to a great player is on-field presence. im not saying by all means just keep the ball at your feet. if the situation calls for a player to beat 1v1 or even 1v2 to have a chance at scoring, its the ability to be able to. after beating somebody once they will hopefully learn what you just did to them. which most of the time opens up another weakness.... aka somebody else. but sometimes it falls on one player. |
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brado10
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Post by brado10 on Feb 21, 2007 2:21:45 GMT -6
I can't believe anyone who is a "TRUE" soccer player would "hate" soccer. I've been playing since I was four and even practice was a thrill for me. Anytime I can touch a soccer ball is unlike anything else... it's my passion. I would give up alot to go back and play the 4 years of HS soccer I played again. this is a rediculous post.
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Post by norecognition69 on Feb 21, 2007 17:36:49 GMT -6
i don't agree because you pretty much just said that no one likes the sport, they just like everything about it... victory, glory, etc., they're all part of the game and if you don't love the game you can't love anything about it. i guess you can say some people slightly enjoy some parts of the game, but you don't win by slightly doing anything. furthermore, the part about being an athlete... what is that all about? you're not anything if you don't like the game you play otherwise it's just a job or even worse, a burden. you certainly don't deserve to be called an athlete for that or anything in resemblance of it if you don't enjoy the game you play. if what you're saying is the case, then no one (say a college kid who used to play and doesn't anymore) wouldn't play pick-up games; and trust me, they do.
what so many of us refer to as "heart" comes directly from how much you love the game and you can't win without heart therefore i don't think anyone who is any good would ever say
"I would rather never play soccer again and start bowling...because i think i could win that while enjoying myself."
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Post by cajunman1 on Feb 22, 2007 16:32:45 GMT -6
*People don't play sports because its fun. Ask any athlete, most of them hate it, but they couldn't imagine their life with out it. Its part of them, the love/hate relationship. its what they live for. They live for the practices, parties, cheers, long bus rides, invitationals, countless pairs of different types of shoes, water, Gatorade, & coaches you hate but appreciate. They live for the way it feels when they beat the other team, and knowing those two extra sprints they ran in practice were worth it. They live for the way they become a family with their team, they live for the countless songs they sing in their head while training all those hours. They live for the competition, they live for the friends, the practices, the memories, the pain, its who they are. It's who we are.
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vikekp
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Post by vikekp on Feb 22, 2007 20:05:49 GMT -6
Ive played since I was 4 years old. It starts out as "I wanna play with my friends" or "my parents are forcin me to do this". Then it develops into "I play because it is fun" Then after a few years, the good, play/practice to win becuase they know they can usually accomplish it. The bad or moderate players are either "just there" or are "playin becuase it is fun". The athletes that thrive are the athletes who see their sport as very competitive and still have fun while doing it. You dont find many pros that dont have a passion for their sport.
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