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Post by beauchenecoach on Apr 8, 2010 15:25:40 GMT -6
Some facts... Last years injuries/fatigue were probably more a case of playing on sloppy fields than playing 4 or 5 games. It snowed... forcing all but 2 of the Friday games to be postponed to the Saturday. Normally, without weather delays... local teams up to an hour away are offered a chance to play 1 game on Thursday. All other teams are offered a chance to play 2 on Friday to catch up with extra games later. Saturday would be on 1 group game, then the semiprettyals and Finals. Most importantly... games are ONLY 25 minute halves... meaning a whole tournament game is a little more than half of a real game. So if you play 2 games in 2 days, which some teams do in high school when the travel across the state... you will play more than you do in this tournament unless you make the finals. Just wanted to clear all of that up... Would Friday to Sunday be better? Yes in a way it would. But going that way, I would lose teams who can not afford to stay 2 nights. So I would think leaving the tournament alone and praying for good weather is the best scenario. I do have the Sunday blocked off at Moore Park in case of emergency or change of decision. Coach, would you consider allowing Thursday games to be played "off site"? That way teams in the GNO area, and possibly other areas, could play first round games in NO on Thursday and not have to catch up. Heck you could even run games at satelight sites like GNO and Baton Rouge on Thursday. Team might be able to travel to/from those locations and play Thursday game, too. What do you think? NewO This is NOT a bad idea at all! It would limit my grouping ability somewhat, but I could still be creative. I would need a site in either the Northshore or NOLA... and this probably wouldn't work for Shreveport and Monroe teams as there are not enough of them and I'm sure they wouldn't want to be in the same groups. Those who can't play in those games would have to make up an extra game on Friday. Or just play the extra game on Saturday. If a team is interested in hosting this... They would have to pay for officials, but can charge admission ($5) and have concessions. They would probably need 2 lighted fields? We may need 2 sites for the NOLA/Northshore/( and BR teams that would rather go that way instead of Moore Park). If that would be able to get done, I think it would be outstanding. It would give us some breathing room on Saturday as well. Let me know via email who you are (I'm sure you are in the Copa) and if you know of sites that would do this. I would run this by the entire group of coaches and see which ones would be interested in this. This might be hard to pull off, but it is possible if there are enough teams who would want to do it, especially one or two that would like to host that night. Thanks, Chad
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Post by newosoccerfan on Apr 8, 2010 17:56:42 GMT -6
What about a using a soccer club's facility (one with field lights) as an N.O. host site? Then you could have more games at the same time at one location. Either way I think you need to run it by the respective schools' coaches. Good luck with it. NewO
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Post by goat on Apr 9, 2010 4:35:06 GMT -6
What about a using a soccer club's facility (one with field lights) as an N.O. host site? Then you could have more games at the same time at one location. Either way I think you need to run it by the respective schools' coaches. Good luck with it. NewO it is played at Moore field. One of the best in the state, and they do have lights.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Apr 9, 2010 6:25:30 GMT -6
Last night I kinda played around with a grouping a little bit and I don't think this offsite in NOLA would work unless all of the teams available in East of the River would do it. It would take a huge effort to pull this off and I of course would not be there to do it, so I would definitely lean towards a definite no on doing this for the upcoming Copa...my hands would be very tied in regards to how to group the teams as well. Plus, how many NOLA area teams want to play other NOLA area teams in this tournament?
I am available to listen to any offers though...
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Post by newosoccerfan on Apr 9, 2010 18:53:25 GMT -6
Coach,
Isn't all you need to make brackets work is to put two GNO (BR) teams in as many brackets as possible. There would have to be limits: no teams from the same district, etc. It seems like there are so many NO teams that there would have to be two in many brackets any way. (Another possibility is to have GNO vs BR match-ups played at GNO, BR, or some where in between.)
It doesn't matter if not every team got a GNO, BR, between GNO and BR, or Lafayette Thursday game. As long as you can add some more Thursday games at remote sites, that would be an improvement by reducing the number of teams playing catch-up games on Saturday. Right?
What are the scheduling problem(s) you see based on? Or what did your trial brackets look like? (Who was in each of the two divisions, Gold and Silver?)
NewO
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Post by beauchenecoach on Apr 10, 2010 14:47:48 GMT -6
Without revealing my early Division predictions...
There seems to be 12-13 teams SET for the Premier Division... leaving about 6-7 teams up for the last 3 spots in the Premier Division.
I am just going by what I've been told about each team and what they have returning. When I officially do this, there will be a coaches committee to help, the LHSSCA rankings, and early season results. Also, some teams that were already in the Premier Division in the past have volunteered for the Gold Division due to being in a rebuilding year. The Gold Division will be VERY, VERY good this year as all of those teams are playoff teams or should be playoffs teams this year. This will be the hardest decision ever for this tournament and I don't plan on finalizing till the last minute possible... probably in mid to late November so I don't think there is any way to do the off site stuff on Thursday.
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Post by BC Fan on Apr 14, 2010 22:15:35 GMT -6
I think the Premier should include St Louis Vandy Teurlings University Beau Chene Westminster STA Alexandria Parkway St Martins St Mikes Country Day Neville St Fred Northlake Episcopal BR
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Post by beauchenecoach on Aug 8, 2010 15:11:45 GMT -6
updated and bumped
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Post by beauchenecoach on Aug 11, 2010 15:32:16 GMT -6
BUMP... need a replacement team for Holy Cross who dropped out today.
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Post by loJic on Aug 11, 2010 23:09:05 GMT -6
BUMP... need a replacement team for Holy Cross who dropped out today. Did Oscar say why they dropped out? I would have thought he wanted his team in this tournament.
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Post by asdfg on Aug 16, 2010 17:30:21 GMT -6
is there still a spot open? ben franklin has openings..
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Post by beauchenecoach on Aug 17, 2010 6:42:42 GMT -6
is there still a spot open? ben franklin has openings.. Please have someone email or call me ASAP for the opening... Ben Franklin would be a tremendous addition to this tournament. Chad Vidrine
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Post by beauchenecoach on Aug 17, 2010 6:43:41 GMT -6
is there still a spot open? ben franklin has openings.. I believe it had something to do with travel... we will miss Holy Cross being there this year.
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Post by goalieguy on Aug 24, 2010 20:47:11 GMT -6
Anyone filled this spot yet or at least offered to??? This is one of the best tournaments in the state, I would think teams would be jumping to get in.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Aug 24, 2010 21:05:13 GMT -6
Anyone filled this spot yet or at least offered to??? This is one of the best tournaments in the state, I would think teams would be jumping to get in. I have replaced Holy Cross with Ben Franklin. It was made official today and I am very excited to have them.
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Post by goalieguy on Aug 24, 2010 21:17:35 GMT -6
Sounds great. This will be a great tournament which I am looking forward to.
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Post by loJic on Aug 25, 2010 12:54:06 GMT -6
This is how i'd like to see the brackets.
PREMIER
St. Louis Neville St. Martin's Parkway
Vandebilt DeRidder Ben Franklin Ruston
Alexandria Beau Chene Northlake Christian Menard
University Teurlings St. Michael Westminster
GOLD
Episcopal BR St. Frederick Episcopal School of Acadiana Opelousas High
Morgan City Opelousas Catholic Catholic New Iberia Loyola
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Post by beauchenecoach on Aug 25, 2010 14:01:58 GMT -6
This is how i'd like to see the brackets. PREMIERSt. Louis Neville St. Martin's Parkway Vandebilt DeRidder Ben Franklin Ruston Alexandria Beau Chene Northlake Christian Menard University Teurlings St. Michael Westminster GOLDEpiscopal BR St. Frederick Episcopal School of Acadiana Opelousas High Morgan City Opelousas Catholic Catholic New Iberia Loyola You are missing 8 teams...
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Post by newosoccerfan on Aug 25, 2010 17:42:01 GMT -6
I think the Premier should include St Louis Vandy Teurlings University Beau Chene Westminster STA Alexandria Parkway St Martins St Mikes Country Day Neville St Fred Northlake Episcopal BR I think this is a better list. Menard is rebuilding big time. I doubt they will even want to be in the Premiere Division, LoJic. The question is who do you knock out from this list to put an obviously deserving Ben Franklin in the Premiere Division? If you go by 09-10 playoff seeding, Episcopal BR was the lowest seeded team in the lowest division, DIII. Knocking them out may be correct, but that analysis doesn't involve any deep thought. I'd like to know more about the losses of teams outside of the area I follow: GNO DIII. (I know all of the GNO DIII teams that are on this list, except Northlake Christian, had minimal losses, 1-2 starters, and some have transfers joining their team this year.) Northlake Christian is a good example of a team with significant losses. I know they lost nine Seniors, including all state player Zak S. and a good number of starters. Who do they have behind those players? Is there another team with worse losses, and/or fewer players or less quality to replace them? This is where early 10-11 season results, and opinions of coaches who see those games, will help set the divisions and help with the brackets once the divisions are set. NewO
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Post by beauchenecoach on Aug 25, 2010 20:33:49 GMT -6
The big problem is that we would only have one week of results if I wait as long as possible before releasing brackets. I would release brackets in week 2 during thanksgiving holidays. Then our tournament is in week 3. That is if I wait as long as possible. I will say that a least 2 or more teams on the list from nikedad have requested the gold bracket As they will either be rebuilding or will be missing a bunch of players due to football and a school imposed 1 week break between sports. This will be very hard to make these brackets and I do have a few coaches from different areas who will help me make some of the tough decisions. This is definitely an amazing field of who's who in DII and DIII... Newman might be the only ranked team in DII or DIII that isn't going to be there. Going to be a great weekend in December as long as it doesn't snow again! Praying for great weather!
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