therealist
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Post by therealist on Jan 13, 2011 0:14:15 GMT -6
The Realist would like to know your thoughts on these cosmetic and at times quite egotistical elastic bands.
The Realist sees no real purpose with regards to these armbands. For one, the captains of a team should not need to have a physical manifestation of their power but should rather lead by example.
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Post by sake on Jan 13, 2011 0:23:23 GMT -6
I don't see it as anything other than to allow the other team and most importantly the officials to recognize who the captains are...
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Post by healthydog on Jan 13, 2011 1:02:41 GMT -6
I don't see it as anything other than to allow the other team and most importantly the officials to recognize who the captains are... You nailed it. From my understanding the officials recognizing who the captains are seem to me be the main reason. I think players should wear them with pride. |
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Post by hdkjga on Jan 13, 2011 1:19:21 GMT -6
it is to designate the captain for the officials reference. Captains are usually allowed to ask questions on calls on behalf of the team.
It is not there to stroke an ego, even though it does.
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Post by The Irish Fro on Jan 13, 2011 1:26:01 GMT -6
They make me feel cool. I always bring my own to any game I play in.
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Post by sake on Jan 13, 2011 1:42:37 GMT -6
They should and do wear them with pride.
And to The Realist, these players have already shown they lead by example, which is exactly why they are elected captains and gain the privilege to wear the armbands..
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therealist
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Post by therealist on Jan 13, 2011 6:51:05 GMT -6
Fair enough. The Realist is at times The Cynic, and sees these as unnecessary, especially since many coaches do not appreciate their players speaking to/arguing with the match officials during games.
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Post by #28fanclub on Jan 13, 2011 7:27:58 GMT -6
You are correct. Most or all coaches do not want their players arguing or speaking to officials and that is not what the Captains arm band allows. But if a coach has a question about a call he asks his Captain to speak with the offical in the proper manner and that is what the arm band allows. Officials will not normally speak to a player unless they are the Captain. But sometimes he will not speak to the Captains. I have seen many times when an official just waves off the captain and not allow him to perform his job for the team.
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pop
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Post by pop on Jan 13, 2011 8:32:12 GMT -6
The bands are a nuisance to wear, most players dont really care to wear it. And the refs will speak to just about any player as long as the player is questioning with respect and not yelling or going off. When respect goes both ways and with good game control the players and ref communicate respectfully, then arm bands are not needed.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jan 13, 2011 8:38:33 GMT -6
Part of the prestige and tradition of the beautiful game. It's a tradition that other sports have copied (Hockey with the C or A on the jersey, the NFL with the C and star system...).
A captain is the coach on the field. A captain has earned the respect of his teammates. A captain will lead by example and doesn't use a band as an attempt to stroke his ego. A captain will lead his team and pick them up when they are down. A captain wears his armband on his left sleeve... a symbol of wearing your heart on your sleeve.
A side note... the sport of soccer worldwide has only ONE captain. Vice captains will take over the band when the Captain is subbed out, injured, or card suspended. But there is only 1 captain on the field at a time. Just a pet peeve of mine when I see 3 and 4 armbands on the field at a time. If you have 3 or 4 captains, you don't have 1.
Another pet peeve... why do some high school teams have a #1 on the field? Respect the history and tradition of the beautiful game people! #1 is a goal keeper... PERIOD! 99% of the time, it is your #1 keeper... the other 1%, it is your backup... but it is always a KEEPER, not a midfielder or defender!
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Post by camlej on Jan 13, 2011 9:01:07 GMT -6
I think its funny that you called out armbands for being egotistical yet you refer to yourself in third person
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Post by #28fanclub on Jan 13, 2011 9:18:58 GMT -6
Nice lesson Beau...I did not know that soccer had a # designation for players. Is it only the keeper or do midfielder and defenders also try to stay in a certain # range?? Or is it more like baseball where they try to keep lower #'s. I remember one of my coaches telling a player "NO you can't have #99 it is not a baseball #"! Like anything the # system has changed with the times...and like most sports the new generation just does not care about History like us OLDER fellas.
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Post by goalieguy on Jan 13, 2011 9:27:04 GMT -6
I think its funny that you called out armbands for being egotistical yet you refer to yourself in third person hahaha, made my day... ;D |
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Post by loJic on Jan 13, 2011 9:30:27 GMT -6
loJic feels he's too pretty to answer this question
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Post by dulac on Jan 13, 2011 9:59:08 GMT -6
I don't see it as anything other than to allow the other team and most importantly the officials to recognize who the captains are... Yep, exactly. I needed to talk to the captain during a game last night and it would have been easier to pick them out if the captain had been wearing an arm band. |
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Post by WarriorsHC on Jan 13, 2011 11:48:30 GMT -6
Last home game I was in the referee told me that since I am the captain I am responsible for any situation that he cannot handle and that if there is a card thats needs to be given but he was not sure who to give it to, I would receive it. So yeah, they are for referee's recognition...
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Post by menardeaglescoach on Jan 13, 2011 11:55:25 GMT -6
When numbers were first put on soccer jerseys only numbers 1-11 were used and during this time in the first English Leagues, you only had 11 players for a game, if your goalkeeper got injured there were no substitutes, one of the field players became the goalkeeper and hopefully if it was only a hand injury to your goalkeeper and he could then play the field otherwise you would play with 10 players if he went off the field. When numbers first came out the formations played were a 2-3-5 pyramid and the numbers went numerically from the goalkeeper to the forward. The 4-4-2 which most people are used to today the numbers would relate to positions as follows; 1- Goalkeeper, 2- Right Back, 3- Left Back, 4- Defensive Central Midfielder, 5- Center Back, 6- Center Back, 7- Right Midfielder/Winger, 8- Attacking Central Midfielder, 9- Center Forward, 10- Forward/Central Midfield/Playmaker was the best player on your team, 11- Left Midfielder/Winger.
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Post by camlej on Jan 13, 2011 12:41:25 GMT -6
Rugby still does it that way
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Post by theguest on Jan 13, 2011 13:41:41 GMT -6
I think its funny that you called out armbands for being egotistical yet you refer to yourself in third person HAHAHA, exactly what I was thinking.  |
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DoctorSoccer
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Post by DoctorSoccer on Jan 13, 2011 13:53:38 GMT -6
Doctor Soccer agrees with camlej.
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