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Post by ShreveDad on Jan 31, 2005 8:34:31 GMT -6
Top Team Hosts First Round, Matches to be played by Saturday February 5th.
1-1 Captain Shreve (3) 3-3 Comeaux (1)
2-2 West Monroe (2) (PKs) 1-4 Airline (1)
5-1 St. Pauls (4) 9-4 Holy Cross (1)
6-2 Central Lafourche (4) 4-2 Baton Rouge (2)
3-1 Acadiana (5) 4-4 Woodlawn (0)
7-1 Bonnabel (2) 6-4 Terrebonne (4)
8-2 Andrew Jackson (0) 5-3 Northshore (9)
9-1 Jesuit (1) 6-3 H. L. Bourgeois (0)
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2-1 Ruston (2) 1-3 Byrd (1)
3-2 Lafayette (6) 4-3 St. Amant (1)
4-1 Catholic of BR (3) 5-4 Covington (0)
5-2 Mandeville (9) 7-3 West Jefferson (0)
8-1 Warren Easton (3) 7-4 John Ehret (1)
1-2 Caddo Magnet (2) 3-4 Carencro (1)
6-1 Destrehan (0) 9-3 Rummel (2)
9-2 Brother Martin (1) 7-2 Grace King (0)
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REGIONALS
Must be played by Thursday February 10th.
At Captain Shreve (6) West Monroe (0)
At St. Pauls (4) Central Lafourche (0)
Acadiana (3) At Terrebonne (1)
At Northshore (0) Jesuit (2)
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At Ruston (1) Lafayette (6)
At Catholic of BR (3) Mandeville (1)
Warren Easton (0) Caddo Magnet (8)
At Rummel (1) Brother Martin (0)
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QUARTERFINALS
Must be played by Tuesday February 15th
Captain Shreve (2) St. Pauls (1)
Acadiana (1) Jesuit (2) (4-3 PKs)
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Lafayette (5) Catholic BR (0)
Caddo Magnet (1) (OT) Rummel (0)
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SEMIFINALS
Must be played by Saturday February 19th
Captain Shreve At Jesuit (Saturday 2 PM Tad Gormley)
At Lafayette (Saturday 1 PM) Caddo Magnet
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Post by McScruff on Jan 31, 2005 9:50:39 GMT -6
one note: this is an odd year, so the team at the top of the bracket wins the home/road tiebreaker.
Also, I thought it might be useful if this info was in here:
DI playoff dates(all games must be completed by these dates)
Bi-Disrtict 2/5 Regionals 2/10 Quarterfinals 2/15 Semi-Finals 2/19 Finals 2/26 - Tad Gormley Stadium - New Orleans, LA
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Jan 31, 2005 21:27:46 GMT -6
I'm just saying that when the the regionals roll around the onyl day they can really play is on that thursday, because Mardi Gras day, Ash Wednesday, and the parades on the other days may cause huge traffic head aches... In the by-laws it does state that the days can be delayed due to mardi gras,or something of that nature... so i wanted to make sure all knew about it........
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Post by ShreveDad on Feb 2, 2005 9:16:21 GMT -6
Surprises: Holy Cross is in -- Good Choice!!
Shreve plays Comeaux instead of Carencro,
Any others?
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Post by CaddoMagnet on Feb 2, 2005 9:18:48 GMT -6
It's amusing how both Airline and Byrd get easier first round matches than district one and two Shreve and Magnet. But then again, that's how it's always been.
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Post by hdkjga on Feb 2, 2005 9:42:16 GMT -6
looks like Abramson bailed or we didn't have an accurate record.
Congrats HC. It's about time you get your chance.
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Post by McScruff on Feb 2, 2005 10:31:50 GMT -6
I would like to thank/congratulate the LHSAA. Seriously, this looks like a good bracket this year. Shapes up for a few really good second round games and some great quarters.
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Post by byrdcoach1 on Feb 2, 2005 10:33:45 GMT -6
What I find amusing is that many people think that playing a tougher team in the first round is such a bad thing.
If you're going to win state you will have to face tough competition sometime. If you can't beat them in the first round, you probably can't beat them in subsequent rounds either.
A tougher first round opponent may keep teams from looking past an opponent. Additionally, better competition = better play (In theory).
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Post by coachray40 on Feb 2, 2005 10:37:29 GMT -6
Byrdcoach1-
We're goin to lafayette--wanna swap ;D
St Amant @ Lafayette 1:00pm Saturday.
Not sure what happened to Abramson--I had a conversation with BJ Guzzardo at LHSAA yesterday regarding some other issues, and he said that many of the Districts either hadnt turned in their info, or that it was incomplete. That was at 3:45 pm. Maybe Abramson just decided not to go--who knows. Their loss is Holy Cross' gain, but also is worse for Destrehan. destrehan should have gotten another #4, but instead they draw Rummel in the first round. CL might have gotten the better draw by losing the tie breaker game. No disrespect to BRHS, they are solid and a good team, yet Rummel has performed more consistently during the year.
I'm at a loss to understand why two #4 teams are playing against #2 instead of #1's. Some of these matchups were predetermined prior to the first kick this season, regardless of how teams did in district. We were 9-3 and a #3, and would have gotten the same placement if we were 5-7 and a #3.
Im not whining--my St Amant team had a chance to control its own destiny and didnt. Nonetheless, at 9-3 our performance should have placed us differently if LHSAA's "descending order" concept was actually used. Either way, we have to play with the cards we are dealt, and will go to Lafayette and do our best. They are a tremendously talented team--moreso than us--and hopefully our game with them will be a learning experience for my young players.
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Post by byrdcoach1 on Feb 2, 2005 11:16:40 GMT -6
Byrdcoach1- We're goin to lafayette--wanna swap ;D coachray40, I'd trade in a heartbeat! Byrd at Ruston - Friday, Feb 4th at 7:45P.
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Post by ShreveDad on Feb 2, 2005 11:17:16 GMT -6
Coach Ray, Only one team in the bracket would switch with you, HL Bourgeois. I'm not even sure about them.
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Post by 415 on Feb 2, 2005 11:43:38 GMT -6
I'm at a loss to understand why two #4 teams are playing against #2 instead of #1's. Some of these matchups were predetermined prior to the first kick this season, regardless of how teams did in district. We were 9-3 and a #3, and would have gotten the same placement if we were 5-7 and a #3. In the girls brackets there is some of the same. from what i can gather, the girls distrcit 3 cam out 3-1 Comeaux 3-2 Lafayette 3-3 Acadiana 3-4 Barbe 4-1 BRHS is playing 3-3 Acadiana while 4-2 St. Joe's plays 3-4 Barbe. Unless my information is incorrect, this doesn't seem right.
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Post by Admiral on Feb 2, 2005 11:58:01 GMT -6
One complaint about the bracket: I think teams from the same district should be placed far enough apart so they don't face each other in the 1st or 2nd round. You have already played them a couple times during the year. For instance, Mandeville and Covington may face each other in round 2. Brother Martin and Rummel - ditto. I would like to see a few other teams you have not yet had the chance to play than a rematch from your own district so quickly.
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Post by ShreveDad on Feb 2, 2005 12:09:23 GMT -6
In response to my friend Byrd Coach1
Playing Comeaux instead of Carencro isn't a big deal. Both are very good teams, neither is heads and tails above the other. Lafayette and West Monroe is another story. If West Monroe is the 9th team in District 3, they take 8th place at best during the year.
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Post by StudsUp on Feb 2, 2005 12:42:00 GMT -6
I agree, Comeaux and Carencro may very well be a coin flip. My question then is - Why the play-off game? As it turned out Comeaux won a coin flip, but the "Bracket Makers" must have already decided that Carencro was the better team? It that why Carenro (3-4) plays 1-2 and Comeaux 3-3 plays 1-1? taking it further, should they all advance, 3-1 will play 3-3 while 3-2 would play 3-4? It goes againt's "Bracket Developement 101?"
Probaly a moot point - but it kind of rub's ya wrong!
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Post by ShreveDad on Feb 2, 2005 13:04:37 GMT -6
If they have guidelines, they should follow them. If not, just say "we are keeping all the wildcards as close to home as possible, and reserve the right to place teams as we see fit." Thats what they did this year and I have no problem with it at all. Just get rid of the written guidelines if you aren't going to use them.
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Post by soccerfan44 on Feb 2, 2005 13:16:22 GMT -6
In response to my friend Byrd Coach1 Playing Comeaux instead of Carencro isn't a big deal. Both are very good teams, neither is heads and tails above the other. Lafayette and West Monroe is another story. If West Monroe is the 9th team in District 3, they take 8th place at best during the year. The only District 3 team I know that WM played was Caddo Magnet in the tournament there - and they tied them 1-1. I am not sure if the other teams they played in the tournament was from Dist 3, but they won one and tied the other. I know tournaments may not mean as much, but they were at least competitive with those teams. I think WM record was something like 14-8-4, and 2-2 in district play. They are not going to win state or anything, but maybe not as bad as "8th place at best". I understand they play Airline Saturday - what place did they come in? Last year, they played Byrd in the first round and lost in the second shootout.
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Post by McScruff on Feb 2, 2005 13:19:16 GMT -6
I think you guys are nitpicking. I think the LHSAA over the years has made it clear that travel distance is very important to them in the first round of the playoffs. I think it's a good thing. There is no way that Grace King should have to travel to Caddo in the first round. I kind of like a semi-regionalization of the brackets. As far as teams from the same district playing eachother in the 2nd round...since travel distance is so important, it is inevitable that teams geographically close to eachother will meet sooner rather than later.
I agree with byrdcoach about having to beat the best to be the best, in fact, I have posted that many times this year. From a player/coach standpoint this is how you have to look at it. That is why I don't think it matters if you meet Jesuit in the quarters, semis or finals. At some point you are probably going to have to beat them. However, from a fans perspective, we like to see the games get progressively more competitive as the playoffs go on. It gives us a chance to see more of the top teams in the state.
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Post by coachray40 on Feb 2, 2005 13:48:57 GMT -6
I have to echo Shrevedad who says it plainly--if they have guidelines, they need to follow them. The "descending order" guidline, while written, doesnt exist. Geography is the only factor. I do agree that a team like Grace King shouldnt be sent to Caddo.
I have to agree with Admiral about the idea of same district teams playing each other early. If teams are going to be bound to first round games because of gegraphic location, and are then bracketed to play a second round game against another district member, that defeats the district concept in my opinion. I think district rivals should be separated until at least the semis.
I do agree that you have to beat the best, etc, but I would much prefer to see the 2 best teams in the state play each other in the finals, rather in the regional or quarterfinal round. The NCAA uses a system in all of its sports (except, of course football)that seeds the strongest teams away from one another until the later rounds. The system currently in place here penalizes the stronger teams, by creatting a condition where they can all knock each other out prior to the title game. I still think that two of the best 4 teams will make it to the end, but where is the playoff drama when two top ten teams play in the first round. Hell, if we're going to do it this way, why not just stick all the names in hat, and pull them out randomly--at least you would have the intrigue of possibly getting a different team to play each year. As it stands right now, I would be just as well of to have my team play in district 3 during the year!
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Post by PumasFC on Feb 2, 2005 14:57:51 GMT -6
Looking at this same problem on the girl side. 4 BR teams v. 4 lafayette teams the winners converge by quarterfinals at the latest. This year that seems quite un fair to the Lafayette Girls. No disrespect to BR, But only one of those 4 has a real shot at the semi's and thats dicey. What is wrong with seeding the teams somehow and if someone has to travel so be it, you can always forfiet, if it is too much of a struggle. It doesn't seem to bother the schools has to send a "Football team" traipsing across the state for a playoff game. If that is too farfetched an idea, just preset all the brackets before the season and if a team sees by being #3 in their district they may have to travel farther than the #2 or #4 team, maybe they won't tank a game, to get a shorter trip. Here's another outlandish thought, maybe some of the money that is taken in at the gate, on gameday, could be used to subsidize the traveling teams expenses. But What do I know 20 years of coaching and wandering in the wilderness has addled my brains in to thinking foolishly.
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