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Post by soccerfan2296 on May 9, 2012 11:37:54 GMT -6
I'm looking for suggestions on how to handle a high school softball coach. He has basicly declared war on the soccer team. His first move was to schedule his softball tryouts on the same day as soccer. He then threatened all girls that play both sports that they could not start in softball if they play soccer. The principal stepped in and rescheduled both tryouts to not conflict. Next, he created a fall ball team and scheduled games and tournmanents to purposefully conflict with soccer. He made playing on the fall team a requirement. On the day of softball tryouts, the day after soccer tryouts, the girls were told they would be in softball in the fall and would not be allowed to go to soccer except on game days. The soccer coach attempted to set up the same arrangement for the 7th hour athletic period as last year. Softball had the girls on Mon, Wed. soccer had them on Tues and Thurs. He refused and said he had to have them during 7th hour all year in order to make up for lost practice time during soccer season. This guy is a real jerk. Not sure what to do.
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Post by Steven Gerrard on May 9, 2012 13:50:06 GMT -6
Ultimately, it is not up to you, but up to the parents. At some point, you are going to have to tell the girls that these are the things that they need to do to play soccer. And, that if they can't do them because of softball conflicts, then they have to choose one or the other. Some will choose soccer. Some will choose softball. But, you are not going to be able to make him be reasonable. The only thing that will allow him to be reasonable is when players start to quit playing softball. If they are not going to quit softball, then unfortunately, he has the power.
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Post by Soccerfan2296 on May 9, 2012 15:41:05 GMT -6
It is a school team. Soccer is in the winter softball in the spring. They should not be conflicting sports. These kids should be allowed to play multiple sports. I think the ultimate problem is the guy does not like the soccer coach and is just trying to be a jerk. The coach and I agree that they shouldn't have to choose.
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Post by barnacle13 on May 10, 2012 6:41:02 GMT -6
At some point parents and players will have to choose. The only other option is to have the principal or AD step in again. I know I hate pulling in the powers that be, but sometimes that's what it takes. I'd probably just have a sit down with my daughter and ask which she'd rather play and which coach she enjoys playing for most. Then I'd put the drama behind me and enjoy the sport of choice.
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Post by lakeview on May 12, 2012 13:10:05 GMT -6
It appears the girls admire the ways of the softball coach. As does the principal and the Athlethic Director.
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Post by barnacle13 on May 14, 2012 7:49:14 GMT -6
Sounds like you're out of luck then. I'd have a sit down with my daughter and discuss the situation, reinforcing my belief system where the coach's actions are referenced, but I'd let her make he decision for herself and let her know I'd support that decision. Making choices and tough decisions is all a part of growing up. A great life lesson could come out of this.
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Post by freekick on May 14, 2012 12:19:56 GMT -6
Don't play softball. Or do. Don't know who would want to play for a jerk like that, anyway. Life is too short. Run track, play tennis or golf, or something else fun in the spring.
If the coach gets punched in the nose (loses some star players), he will change his tune. If he can force girls to quit soccer, he will only get worse. Typical bully behavior.
Why does the school put up with such behavior? And since this coach formed a club team for the fall with his HS players, does softball not have the same rules as soccer about club coaches not being allowed to coach HS?
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Post by soccerfan2296 on May 15, 2012 11:24:40 GMT -6
He's scare tactics are really only working with a couple of 8th graders going there next year. Most of the players know that if they're his best, he won' t bench them.
The administration just doesn't wan to have to deal with it. They want the coaches to work it out and that's not happening.
He gets away with the club softball team by having his wife coach it.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Jun 2, 2012 15:38:15 GMT -6
A photo or video of said coach at the practices of the fall ball team (supposedly coached by wife) would be enough to have said coach ineligible to coach high school softball if there are 5 or more players from his high school (notice I did not say high school softball team, but his high school) on that team. Just sayin...  This problem goes on in a LOT of schools... baseball and softball coaches do not like to share and don't want their kids showing up way after the non soccer or basketball players. They threaten playing time, scholarship opportunities, etc... In my opinion, baseball isn't even a sport! ;D It is a recreational game like Bowling, Golf, Darts, and others stuff that doesn't take an athletic person to excel in it but you must possess a certain skill to excell at it. But that is another story for another day! Just don't tell anyone where you got the idea to take the video of photo of the training session in the fall!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2012 15:00:40 GMT -6
Good one coach! Love the baseball analogy!
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Post by bhssoccercoach on Jan 8, 2013 10:43:01 GMT -6
I have similar issues with a dual sport star (basketball and soccer). She never misses basketball games but it's ok to miss soccer. Have had softball players quit for similar reasons. Why don't we play soccer in the fall? Looking at the weather forecasts, we likely won't play another game this week (3 district games for us) and now will be scrambling to get the district games complete. Administration wouldn't allow us to play over nearly 3 weeks of holiday break...blah blah blah. Ridiculous that the sport we all care so much about gets trampled by all others.
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Jan 8, 2013 10:57:06 GMT -6
I have similar issues with a dual sport star (basketball and soccer). She never misses basketball games but it's ok to miss soccer. Have had softball players quit for similar reasons. Why don't we play soccer in the fall? Looking at the weather forecasts, we likely won't play another game this week (3 district games for us) and now will be scrambling to get the district games complete. Administration wouldn't allow us to play over nearly 3 weeks of holiday break...blah blah blah. Ridiculous that the sport we all care so much about gets trampled by all others. Tell the soccer players that they can't miss soccer games. That is obviously what the other coaches are doing. If he/she is not going to make the soccer games a priority, find another kid who will. As for playing in the winter, you are right that we should move soccer to the spring (can't do fall because most teams need football stadiums to play). Better weather for games. Bigger crowds coming to see the games. Bigger crowds leading to more coverage by the press. More kids playing soccer. To me it makes too much sense. But, the club coaches who also coach HS teams will never let it happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 11:28:48 GMT -6
I have similar issues with a dual sport star (basketball and soccer). She never misses basketball games but it's ok to miss soccer. Have had softball players quit for similar reasons. Why don't we play soccer in the fall? Looking at the weather forecasts, we likely won't play another game this week (3 district games for us) and now will be scrambling to get the district games complete. Administration wouldn't allow us to play over nearly 3 weeks of holiday break...blah blah blah. Ridiculous that the sport we all care so much about gets trampled by all others. Tell the soccer players that they can't miss soccer games. That is obviously what the other coaches are doing. If he/she is not going to make the soccer games a priority, find another kid who will. As for playing in the winter, you are right that we should move soccer to the spring (can't do fall because most teams need football stadiums to play). Better weather for games. Bigger crowds coming to see the games. Bigger crowds leading to more coverage by the press. More kids playing soccer. To me it makes too much sense. But, the club coaches who also coach HS teams will never let it happen. I agree...except for the club coaches part. Arkansas just moved their club state cup competition to the fall. The complaint was that hs ball (played in spring) didn't give the club teams enough time to prepare for state cup in June. if hs soccer is moved to the spring...all the above would happen. Plus it would make the fall/winter club season longer...for showcase tourneys etc. Only 7-8 states play hs soccer in the winter. The majority play in the spring. In the northeast, it is played in the fall. The change would have more positives than negatives. it is just a matter of shuffling the seasons around. |
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Post by socceryearround on Jan 8, 2013 17:20:23 GMT -6
People still play softball?
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Post by Bish on Jan 31, 2013 1:13:32 GMT -6
I'd organize the parents and take a stance against what the softball coach is doing. It's clearly stupid and juvenile.
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