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Post by copakid14 on Jan 14, 2013 0:32:08 GMT -6
I guess us northerners are just used to traveling. My Loyola girls attended Copa, went to Mandeville, STM, and Episcopal Acadiana to play Sacred Heart. Byrd has played Lafayette 3 times and STM twice this season...how many of those were played in Shreveport? To STM's credit they have made a few Shreveport trips in previous years. The better teams up north have started talking about hosting our own round robin event. Byrd, Loyola, Caddo Magnet would love to host Lafayette, STM, Teurlings next season. Lets make it happen!
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Post by barbedad20 on Jan 14, 2013 9:36:25 GMT -6
Some say I talk too much, and maybe they are right. ;D ;D ;D how many of those were played in Shreveport? Excellent point.... Barbe made a late minute trip to Shreve to play Capt Shreve and Airline..... I think tournaments need to be set up more with Division records are concerned with Barbe going to let's say Hahnville Tournament to play other Div I teams.... I think you may see more games played like Barbe going to Monroe to play West Monroe on a Friday and another Div I opponent on Saturday then going home. You get better full length games and not having to play 4-5 games in 24 hrs in a Tournament and risk getting someone hurt like Mort says.... I say we work on these North vs South or East vs West games. We don't mind traveling (brought the girls a few years ago to California remember!!) to get quality even games against Div I opponents..... I even sent a few e-mails down to the bayou teams trying to get a weekend double header but schedules couldn't make that happen. I will try again next year..... but we are willing to travel if you promise to make a return trip and play at..... "The Finest Soccer Facility in the State of Louisiana!!"
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Jan 14, 2013 9:43:31 GMT -6
Excellent point.... Barbe made a late minute trip to Shreve to play Capt Shreve and Airline..... I think tournaments need to be set up more with Division records are concerned with Barbe going to let's say Hahnville Tournament to play other Div I teams.... I think you may see more games played like Barbe going to Monroe to play West Monroe on a Friday and another Div I opponent on Saturday then going home. You get better full length games and not having to play 4-5 games in 24 hrs in a Tournament and risk getting someone hurt like Mort says.... West Monroe girls just made a trip to play Zachary on Friday night and then drove over to Lafayette to play Teurlings on Saturday morning. I am confident that any teams from the south that want to play a similiar schedule can come up north and get games with West Monroe and Neville (or others). Will any do it?
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Post by sokerfan on Jan 14, 2013 9:49:05 GMT -6
copakid14, you are correct the northern teams have traveled to play southern teams. Usually teams may both want home games but decide to meet half way. Example: Lafayette & Byrd meet in Alexandria and maybe play Nat. Central while they are there. Byrd did it when they came and played STM on Friday and while they were here they played Lafayette on Saturday. Makes the trip worth wild.
I know we owe Byrd a return trip. That tourney sounds like a good idea.
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Post by mortner on Jan 14, 2013 12:51:58 GMT -6
sokerfan, honestly I believe the principals vote on it, but as I said before I like playing the top teams home and away in district play. Are there a few games in there that I would rather not....maybe. Check with Timbertwin on that one, I can't honestly say I am up to par on our district policies. It does sound as if you know our district policies though, so maybe it is just that easy.
However I won't apologize for not traveling to Byrd, when I can play MCA, Dominican, Sacred Heart, etc. instead, and be home in time for lunch. We are geographically blessed. High school season is a great break for me. I get to coach soccer, which I love, and I am home to do what I wish on the weekends. As you know club soccer doesn't always allow for a Saturday fishing trip or a day to catch up on yard work. This doesn't mean I have any less respect for Byrd or Caddo. It just means it is what works for us as a team. Time may tell and we may very well have to drive to North LA to play the best teams. And when that time comes, you won't hear a peep out of me complaining.
SSA has never turned down a game, so if Lafayette was wanting to play us for 9 years, a simple e-mail would've sufficed, just like the one I sent this year to schedule all of my games.
Best of luck to you and your quality program going forward. You must be blessed with many daughters coming through that Lafayette program to have been involved for 9 years.
All the best,
Mike
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Post by mortner on Jan 14, 2013 12:58:13 GMT -6
Please understand I don't mean any disrespect to North Louisiana, it just so happens that we have a lot of quality opponents close to home and sokerfan if you wish to carry on a debate with me my email is mortner14@bellsouth.net
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Post by copakid14 on Jan 14, 2013 13:00:46 GMT -6
As I previously stated, the North LA teams travel more (as it is in club as well) but don't take that as a complaint. We are choosing to do so and often these trips provide some of the most memorable experiences for these girls to bond with their friends and get a couple good games in as well. We do have to raise the money to do it, but honestly if someone is using that as an excuse, they aren't really trying that hard. We do 1 fund raiser a year and it has covered all of our travel, bought us new uniforms, and each player a large stadium jacket (the best investment of them all!) I have no problem with Mike and SSA doing what fits and works best for them...we get a little payback during the club season when they have to trek up here...I can understand and appreciate the desire for more time at home.
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Post by coolhandluke on Jan 14, 2013 13:20:33 GMT -6
Excellent point.... Barbe made a late minute trip to Shreve to play Capt Shreve and Airline..... I think tournaments need to be set up more with Division records are concerned with Barbe going to let's say Hahnville Tournament to play other Div I teams.... I think you may see more games played like Barbe going to Monroe to play West Monroe on a Friday and another Div I opponent on Saturday then going home. You get better full length games and not having to play 4-5 games in 24 hrs in a Tournament and risk getting someone hurt like Mort says.... West Monroe girls just made a trip to play Zachary on Friday night and then drove over to Lafayette to play Teurlings on Saturday morning. I am confident that any teams from the south that want to play a similiar schedule can come up north and get games with West Monroe and Neville (or others). Will any do it? The trip that Coach Barron & the West Monroe Girls made this weekend was very much appreciated by Teurlings Catholic. It was nice to visit with Coach Barron & some of the West Monroe parents before the game. I was very impressed with a young West Monroe team. We will certainly attempt to return the favor next year with a trip to N Louisiana. I think you will see more 2-game weekends next year and less tournament participation. Those 4-game tournament weekends are physically brutal for the smaller schools. As for scheduling & traveling, Coach Mike (SSA) did attempt to work out a playing date with my Lady Rebels. Unfortunately, when comparing our schedules we did not have common open dates to schedule a game. The offer to travel to Lafayette to play us was very much appreciated. Any opportunity to play SSA, Mt Carmel, Dominican, Mandeville....can only help our program.
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Post by tigers4 on Jan 14, 2013 14:24:38 GMT -6
News flash for sokerfan " SSA, Font. and Mandeville never duck away from quality teams to play"! Please do not compare club to high school play. Club practices twice a week (unless that has changed in the last 2 years) where as high school on field usually five times a week and sometimes six( games on Saturday). High school games ( Mandeville, Font. Northshore and SSA district games against each other) starters play almost 75 % or more of the game where is club you usually see that time decrease. No coach should have to justify their decision on whether or not to play in tournaments. This district is very competitive and all these teams usually play MCA, Dominican, Vanderbilt Lafayette STM and so on, very quality teams on their non district schedule. So I do understand and agree with Ortner's rational thinking in this matter. Me personally I hold less value in tournament scores then heads up 1 on 1 game results. Usually in tournaments they are held in times of the year during holiday's and breaks with starters not on their prospective teams because of their families being out of town. I have no problem with a coach who feels their team needs to play in tournaments that is their decision. Me personally if their team had a bad weekend (win/loss) I overlook it and pay more attention to their record during the season. I guess what I am trying to say is niether should be penalized about quantity (more or less games) because quality is what really matters, just ask NOTRE DAME!
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Post by barnacle13 on Jan 14, 2013 15:52:53 GMT -6
The only quantity anyone will need to answer for next year is 15 games minimum. That might even be difficult for some smaller programs. I don't think most Div I teams will have any problem finding quality matches to round out their non-district play.
It's almost laughable to accuse the Mandeville area teams for not playing tournaments. everyone associated with soccer knows there is a lot of talent in that area. I really think most teams are traveling for exposure and to find good teams to play. The Mandeville area needs neither. They have quality opponents, both in district and out, and most coaches are well aware of their talent. Of course if coaches seeding goes away, there will probably be fewer teams willing to make the trip for exposure. They may still make the trip to a tournament for quality matches, but exposure to other (possibly voting) coaches will not matter as much.
I certainly don't fault SSA for playing only full length matches. They definitely fill their schedule with teams that will challenge them as well. Having 2 kids playing HS soccer, I also understand how Coach Ortner cherishes his weekends off. The rain was nice this week from that standpoint for me. I actually got to enjoy some down time with the family instead of freezing with them in the stands.
Heck it wouldn't bother me one bit if my kids teams played fewer tournaments and picked up more matches against more evenly matched divisional (and even non-divisional) teams. I'd love to see BRHS play Mandeville, SSA, Mt. Carmel, Dominican, St. Thomas More, Northshore and Fontainebleau, just to see how they stack up. Baton Rouge is having a great year, but they haven't played any of these teams, so I have no basis of reference, other than a 1-1 tie with Byrd in a tournament length match and a 0-1 loss to Lafayette in the same tournament. I'd like to think they would hold their own, but I could have my fan goggles on and just not be able to see it. I can at least be able to say I've seen Mandeville in action this year and I think that BRHS could give them a match, based on a similar foe (Woodlawn BR). The others I can only speculate on. I do believe BRHS is a Top 8 team, but I don't think they are Top 5. I base that on similar opponents as well, as most of the Top 5 have played St. Joe's and East Ascension to multigoal defeats. BRHS I don't think would be able to beat either SJA or EA by more than a goal or two, and possibly even dropping a result to one of these teams. I guess I'll have to wait for a playoff run to see if I'm right or just have on the fan goggles!
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Post by SFC Retired on Jan 18, 2013 8:45:50 GMT -6
Question? With the Power Rating kicking in next season, if a team has 15 wins does that carry over into next season? So say I play Opelousas Cathoilic and they have 15 wins from this year and I play them next season and beat them. Do I get half of that or the new sesaons wins?
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 18, 2013 9:16:22 GMT -6
Question? With the Power Rating kicking in next season, if a team has 15 wins does that carry over into next season? So say I play Opelousas Cathoilic and they have 15 wins from this year and I play them next season and beat them. Do I get half of that or the new sesaons wins? Power Ratings are based on the entire current season. So if you play them in week 1 or week 10 doesn't matter, you will get their number of wins at the END of the season (regardless of when you play them). The prior year is irrelevant and won't affect Power Ratings.
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Post by offsides on Jan 22, 2013 22:51:52 GMT -6
Best of luck to you and your quality program going forward. You must be blessed with many daughters coming through that Lafayette program to have been involved for 9 years. All the best, Mike Hahahaha
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Post by stinger on Jan 23, 2013 17:38:18 GMT -6
Please PM me or e-mail tombush13@att.net with your team schedule. In an effort to offer more tools for tracking your favorite teams, we have implemented a Standings and Power Ratings GoogleDoc similar to what is found on the Boys HS Forum. This tool will eventually contain all schedules, scores, and standings, as well as LHSAA and flat3 Power Ratings in each diivision. These may be useful as another tool for coaches to use during seeding for playoffs. Click on link below for: [/url][/size] I am in the process of plugging in schedules, which will be searchable by team, district, division, date, etc. There are still many schedules which are unaccounted for. In order for the standings to be of maximum value to coaches and fans it will need all schedules and scores present. I'm hoping having all of this information easily accessible will grow the interest and excitement on the Girls HS forum and in the games themselves. NOTE: The link should now open it directly in LIST view (and save you from making that change when you open it). If it doesn't work, just follow the initial instructions below.p_malinichLet us know if it's working.[/quote]
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Post by stinger on Jan 23, 2013 17:41:23 GMT -6
There is something wrong with Thomas Jefferson's district record. They can only have 6 district games. They lost to Chapelle, Dominican and Mount Carmel. Record at best can only be 3-3. I think they played Chalmette twice, but only one can be counted for district game and I think they still have to play 1 district game.
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Post by barnacle13 on Jan 23, 2013 23:26:15 GMT -6
There is something wrong with Thomas Jefferson's district record. They can only have 6 district games. They lost to Chapelle, Dominican and Mount Carmel. Record at best can only be 3-3. I think they played Chalmette twice, but only one can be counted for district game and I think they still have to play 1 district game. I think I have it fixed. They played Chalmette, Grace King, and West Jeff. I switched to Friendly for the description. Should remove from district record.
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Post by stinger on Jan 24, 2013 7:17:44 GMT -6
It still seems to be showing Thomas Jefferson at 4-3 in district when they should be 2-3 with grace king left to play. Also, was there. Game against chalmette the second time (district game) a tie or do we do shootouts in district games?
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 24, 2013 7:32:00 GMT -6
It still seems to be showing Thomas Jefferson at 4-3 in district when they should be 2-3 with grace king left to play. Also, was there. Game against chalmette the second time (district game) a tie or do we do shootouts in district games? Here are the games that are being used for Thomas Jefferson for District. Nov 27 - Thomas Jefferson (3) -West Jefferson (0) Dec 10 - Grace King (0) -Thomas Jefferson (5) Dec 14 - Thomas Jefferson (1) -Chalmette (1) Jan 10 - West Jefferson (0) -Thomas Jefferson (2) Jan 12 - Thomas Jefferson (1) -Dominican (4) Jan 17 - Chalmette (0.2) -Thomas Jefferson (0.3) Jan 19 - Chapelle (4) -Thomas Jefferson (0) Jan 21 - Thomas Jefferson (0) -Mt. Carmel (10) My guess is that the November & December games were actually FRIENDLIES rather than DISTRICT games. If anyone can confirm that, we'll make the change.
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 24, 2013 7:39:28 GMT -6
Dominican vs Country Day has been rescheduled from 12/13/12 to 1/29/13 Sorry about not seeing this earlier. It appears as this game & a few others are still scheduled for 1/29/13. The LAST date for the regular season (for the girls), according to the LHSAA handbook, is 1/28/13. Coaches seeding happens on the morning of the 1/29. Maybe these have been changed, but I at least wanted to highlight it.
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 24, 2013 7:45:22 GMT -6
Dominican vs Country Day has been rescheduled from 12/13/12 to 1/29/13 Sorry about not seeing this earlier. It appears as this game & a few others are still scheduled for 1/29/13. The LAST date for the regular season (for the girls), according to the LHSAA handbook, is 1/28/13. Coaches seeding happens on the morning of the 1/29. Maybe these have been changed, but I at least wanted to highlight it. We've been using 1/31 as the date for game needs to be re-scheduled. But 1/29 would likely suggest a date given from a team. Just to make sure you all have/can adjust, here's the rest of the list showing as 1/29: Jan 29 - St. Charles vs St. Martin's Jan 29 - Country Day vs Dominican Jan 29 - Woodlawn, BR vs Denham Springs Jan 29 - Dutchtown vs Zachary Please let us know if they've been cancelled or will be played earlier.
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