Jesuit 2 St. Paul's 1 (OT)

[bayouchris]

Feb 23, 2013 21:46:15 GMT -6 youngwarrior said:

St. Paul's... Kudos. Seriously. You all did a great job by taking a team into OT that plays/practices all year long.

Congratulations on winning Chicago Fire! I mean Jesuit.. Ha. This season was a fairy tale written by Chicago Fire directors. 1st team for CFJ is mostly all Jesuit players. #Politics

Great job again st Paul's.

- Tre Walker

If Jesuit has CFJ players does St Pauls have a team that consists of all MSC players? Who cares which Club Team is represented, it's high school not club.

Read more: laprepsoccer.proboards.com/thread/17215/jesuit-2-st-pauls-ot?page=8##ixzz2Lmxdt5vV

[recrat]

Big difference between letting them play and what happened on the no-call play. Those calls have to be made.

[Slippin' Stevie G]

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Congrats, Jesuit! Great season for St. Paul's! Always a blast watching these two teams on the battle field.

[Slippin' Stevie G]

Feb 23, 2013 22:35:29 GMT -6 coolerthanhall97 said:

Feb 23, 2013 22:34:14 GMT -6 munichman30 said:

In my opinion, I think you are completely wrong coolerthanhall97. All that happened was that the ref let the boys play.

You don't disserves to live.

deserve*

Kind of harsh, though...

[munichman30]

Coming from a person who has been around soccer for 40 years, it was a good call by the ref to not call a PK. Just let the boys play!

[drogba]

I also have no dog in the fight just love the game. Jesuit did deserve it but the no call was so obvious. I hope someone like a reporter or somebody had to be filming post it. You know unless my eyes were deceiving me i thought it was an easy call. Ref swallowed the whistle I thought. I will also say this the ar on the crowded side of the field had a horrible game. The game was above his ability.

[goalieguy]

Feb 23, 2013 22:41:53 GMT -6 munichman30 said:

Coming from a person who has been around soccer for 40 years, it was a good call by the ref to not call a PK. Just let the boys play!

Not sure how you can argue this point. Having heard M-Unit give his opinion, especially since he was next to the field where the foul happened, you have to call a PK in this situation. Letting the boys play is good and all but when it is clear foul in the box that takes away a goal scoring opportunity you must call a PK and according to the rules issue a card. 

[goalieguy]

Feb 23, 2013 22:44:00 GMT -6 drogba said:

 I will also say this the ar on the crowded side of the field had a horrible game. The game was above his ability.

Or he could have had ties to one of the schools. Not to cause drama, but I "heard" that one of the ARs was a Jesuit alumni. Not sure which one though. 

[soccermomalways]

Now, I think I want to learn more about being a referee.

[happyjack]

Feb 23, 2013 22:50:25 GMT -6 goalieguy said:

Feb 23, 2013 22:44:00 GMT -6 drogba said:

 I will also say this the ar on the crowded side of the field had a horrible game. The game was above his ability.

Or he could have had ties to one of the schools. Not to cause drama, but I "heard" that one of the ARs was a Jesuit alumni. Not sure which one though. 

Graduated more than 10 years ago, LHSAA requirement is cant do them for 7 years after graduating, so non-issue.  

[goalieguy]

Feb 23, 2013 22:53:49 GMT -6 happyjack said:

Feb 23, 2013 22:50:25 GMT -6 goalieguy said:

Or he could have had ties to one of the schools. Not to cause drama, but I "heard" that one of the ARs was a Jesuit alumni. Not sure which one though. 

Graduated more than 10 years ago, LHSAA requirement is cant do them for 7 years after graduating, so non-issue.  

Thanks for clarification happyjack. 

[drogba]

I heard two refs from Northshore and two from New Orleans. I know head ref does the local spanish league games. I don't care how many years it has been you should not be able to ref for the school you graduated from. I know you can be a professional but much like the coach seedings it just doesn't look right.

[charliemurphy]

Who cares how the refs were. Almost every unbiased person agrees that Jesuit was the better team tonight so they deserved the win end of story and on to next season.

[barcafan21]

I think jesuit would beat st louis. the difference in the level of play between divisions one and two is pretty high. Baton rouge high, the ninth ranked team in d1, beat st louis 2-1

[retired_thibodaux_coach]

Feb 23, 2013 23:02:14 GMT -6 charliemurphy said:

Who cares how the refs were. Almost every unbiased person agrees that Jesuit was the better team tonight so they deserved the win end of story and on to next season.

Agreed. It's done. Nothing anyone can do about it. Next year will be here before we know it starting fresh and EVERYONE will be playing for a championship.

[rlb2024]

I have to admit I was surprised when they announced before the game that the referees were from the New Orleans Referee Association. Seems to me that LHSAA would have wanted a crew from a totally neutral part of the state to handle a state finals game.

I was sitting dead even (and 20 rows up) from where the late non-call happened. From my viewpoint it was a blatant penalty. No way you can let that one go, no matter when it happened in the game.

That being said, I thought Jesuit was the more impressive team tonight. They judged balls in the air better than any team I've seen, and won at least 70 percent of them. They are very physical and very fast. They easily won the possession battle during regulation play.

During OT, the possession was much more balanced. St. Paul's started playing more of a possession game for the first time all night, and had some opportunities.

Great game by both teams, and congratulations to both squads for leaving it all on the pitch tonight. It's a shame that such a beautiful game had to end on such a controversial note.

[Slippin' Stevie G]

Feb 23, 2013 22:57:18 GMT -6 soccerplayer28 said:

Feb 23, 2013 22:35:29 GMT -6 coolerthanhall97 said:

You don't disserves to live.

It sounds like to me that you are mad.

[kevin]

A few thoughts, now that I'm home in front of my computer and can type much more easily:

I didn't have a great view of the non-call on the penalty. When I saw the SPS player go down my immediate reaction was to look at the ref for the call, and he signalled a no-call. As for whether it was the right call, I have to defer to M Unit and others who had a better view. And I'll admit, as a Blue Jay alum I'm biased, so I'm not the best person to ask about the refereeing.

But I'll give my opinion on the refereeing anyway. I thought there were probably a few yellows that should've been given to Jesuit in extra time. I thought the level of contact allowed was somewhat inconsistent and maybe slightly too loose. I also thought that the ref probably should've given an indirect free kick for a backpass by St. Paul's. It looked to me like the defender clearly and intentionally kicked it back to the keeper. I'm not sure why it wasn't called--I don't know if the ref didn't see a touch, or ruled it was off the leg and not the foot, or didn't think the defender was trying to play it back.

As a couple of people have said, Jesuit was playing better, having more possession, and creating more chances. With a 1-0 lead St. Paul's was understandably looking to defend and counterattack, but even after the equalizer JHS held a fairly significant possession edge.

The Jays were very sloppy offensively in the first half. They were constantly getting forward, but never stringing the final few passes together.

Stylistically and aesthetically, neither team impressed me all that much. It'd be nice to see defenders pick out a pass more often instead of thumping long balls forward.

Jesuit was lucky not to concede a goal in extra time. There were a couple of close calls (including the no-call decision on the possible penalty) where they should've gotten the ball cleared sooner or the keeper should've come off his line to get the ball.

The field at Tad Gormley is too narrow. I think Tad Gormley is nice in terms of location, parking, etc., but I would much rather see the championship played at Pan Am. The fans are much closer to the action there, and the wider field would've enhanced the quality of play. Both teams had some great runs down the flanks--it would've been nice to see the wingers do their work on a wider pitch. As was the case last year, the narrowness of the pitch exaggerates the importance of set pieces, especially throws. Two Jesuit goals off a corner tonight, one St. Paul's goal off a throw-in. Nothing from the run of play.

[soccermomalways]

This question is for someone that saw the Jesuit semi-final game and the finals. On the radio broadcast they kept talking about Jesuit playing the long ball and not stringing together passes to take the ball down the field. Is this correct? If so, I'm pretty sure Jesuit was criticized for doing the same thing last week. Is this how they played tonight's game or am I just not understanding something?

[ijsouth1966]

Feb 23, 2013 23:17:40 GMT -6 kevin said:

A few thoughts, now that I'm home in front of my computer and can type much more easily:

I didn't have a great view of the non-call on the penalty. When I saw the SPS player go down my immediate reaction was to look at the ref for the call, and he signalled a no-call. As for whether it was the right call, I have to defer to M Unit and others who had a better view. And I'll admit, as a Blue Jay alum I'm biased, so I'm not the best person to ask about the refereeing.

But I'll give my opinion on the refereeing anyway. I thought there were probably a few yellows that should've been given to Jesuit in extra time. I thought the level of contact allowed was somewhat inconsistent and maybe slightly too loose. I also thought that the ref probably should've given an indirect free kick for a backpass by St. Paul's. It looked to me like the defender clearly and intentionally kicked it back to the keeper. I'm not sure why it wasn't called--I don't know if the ref didn't see a touch, or ruled it was off the leg and not the foot, or didn't think the defender was trying to play it back.

As a couple of people have said, Jesuit was playing better, having more possession, and creating more chances. With a 1-0 lead St. Paul's was understandably looking to defend and counterattack, but even after the equalizer JHS held a fairly significant possession edge.

The Jays were very sloppy offensively in the first half. They were constantly getting forward, but never stringing the final few passes together.

Stylistically and aesthetically, neither team impressed me all that much. It'd be nice to see defenders pick out a pass more often instead of thumping long balls forward.

Jesuit was lucky not to concede a goal in extra time. There were a couple of close calls (including the no-call decision on the possible penalty) where they should've gotten the ball cleared sooner or the keeper should've come off his line to get the ball.

The field at Tad Gormley is too narrow. I think Tad Gormley is nice in terms of location, parking, etc., but I would much rather see the championship played at Pan Am. The fans are much closer to the action there, and the wider field would've enhanced the quality of play. Both teams had some great runs down the flanks--it would've been nice to see the wingers do their work on a wider pitch. As was the case last year, the narrowness of the pitch exaggerates the importance of set pieces, especially throws. Two Jesuit goals off a corner tonight, one St. Paul's goal off a throw-in. Nothing from the run of play.

Sounds about spot-on...I thought Jesuit was the better overall team (and this is from an SP alum), but it was definitely a penalty.  The ref was inconsistent.  Saint Paul's had major cramping issues, and the pitch is too narrow...pretty much sums everything up.