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Post by beauchenecoach on Feb 26, 2013 6:02:17 GMT -6
As a parent, I will say this. You are the type of coach that I would want to coach my child. Nice compliment, and not sure you can get much higher and heartfelt praise. Very deserving! Absolutely agree Pompey! I had already thanked laffysoccermom via message. But that is by far, the highest compliment you could ever receive as a coach. Thanks again!
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Post by fentonsoccer on Feb 27, 2013 14:02:50 GMT -6
Though I agree Brock Hollier is a top player, I do not think he is the Division II MVP. Including the finals, Alex Kjellsten of St. Louis has been the most dominant player in Division II this year, and maybe the entire state. He has been a dominant force thought not always in goal scoring situations. So many teams have adjusted their strategies to take his ability into account. Even in the finals, he did not score, but constantly caused problems for the Beau Chene defense as he did throughout the year. Alex was also the only player in the state to be named to the NSCAA Adidas All-American team.
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Post by shrimp on Feb 27, 2013 14:11:30 GMT -6
Alex was also the only player in the state to be named to the NSCAA Adidas All-American team. That couldn't be because his coach is the NSCAA representative for Louisiana....nooooooo
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Post by gobbo on Feb 27, 2013 14:53:06 GMT -6
Alex was also the only player in the state to be named to the NSCAA Adidas All-American team. That couldn't be because his coach is the NSCAA representative for Louisiana....nooooooo Shrimp, Are you saying that Alex doesn't deserve the honor? If so, please explain why?
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Post by shrimp on Feb 27, 2013 15:04:43 GMT -6
That couldn't be because his coach is the NSCAA representative for Louisiana....nooooooo Shrimp, Are you saying that Alex doesn't deserve the honor? If so, please explain why? I've only seen Alex play once last year at Beau Chene's tournament. Very good player. Heard he was a menace for Beau Chene in the finals this year and his stats look impressive. Not saying he doesn't deserve to be an all-american just pointing out that his coach is the person who represents LA for the NSCAA. I'm not bashing anybody but politics are politics and that accolade my friend is pure politics.
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Post by loJic on Feb 27, 2013 15:13:19 GMT -6
Alex is a very worthy player of All-American. Whether his coach has his hands in the process or not shouldn't take away from him being honored as such.
As for DII MVP. It's a toss up for me. I don't like nominating MVPs from programs with 20 other MVPs. I look at the most "valuable" player as the one who was a big part of that team's success.
Answer this.
Would Beau Chene have reached the finals without Brock?
Would St. Louis have reached the finals without Alex?
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Post by premier on Feb 27, 2013 16:27:14 GMT -6
Alex is a very worthy player of All-American. Whether his coach has his hands in the process or not shouldn't take away from him being honored as such. As for DII MVP. It's a toss up for me. I don't like nominating MVPs from programs with 20 other MVPs. I look at the most "valuable" player as the one who was a big part of that team's success. Answer this. Would Beau Chene have reached the finals without Brock? Would St. Louis have reached the finals without Alex? If that's solely what we're basing this off of, then Brock gets MVP in my books. St. Louis relied mainly on a collective team/possession effort and their many subs without a drop in quality to win their games. Beau Chene relied more on setting a strong defensive stance and letting Brock do his thing on offense to win. IMO Brock had a bigger part of his team's success for Beau Chene than Alex did for St.Louis
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Post by bungle on Feb 27, 2013 18:19:28 GMT -6
If it is based on who is the best player in DII and not what they mean to their team or heck, even what they mean to their team... Alex wins it.
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Post by let lil esay walk on Feb 27, 2013 18:37:25 GMT -6
If its based on the best player on the state champs then Alex wins it. If its the MVP of the division then its Brock, Cunnigham, Derek knight. None of the three teams with the playrs mentioned get near as far without them. St Louis wins state probably either way. With a healthy Brock, BC ties and has a much better game against slc earlier in year. Without Alex, slc ties Alexandria on road earlier this year. I don't think Teurlings or EDW wins as many games without Cunningham and knight. If its MVP of the state champ, then why even vote? Of course I am a bit bias. Brock was also man marked and double marked all season and still led division in scoring and total points for second straight year
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Post by let lil esay walk on Feb 27, 2013 18:51:16 GMT -6
Hey lojic or pmalinich, can u show the players mentioned percentages of teams attack and success? Is there a way?
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Post by loJic on Feb 27, 2013 18:54:18 GMT -6
Hey lojic or pmalinich, can u show the players mentioned percentages of teams attack and success? Is there a way? Will do. Need to get to my computer first.
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