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Post by greendad on Feb 23, 2013 17:28:13 GMT -6
Hard to really tell. Still pictures, like pOkle points out, only show a snapshot of what happened. I took the picture, but I couldn't tell you one way or the other if the keeper touched the ball. The photo makes it look like he did not, but the keeper might not be at the top of his jump, so the next frame might have shown him grazing the ball with his fingers. Anyone know if the keeper claims he did not touch it? Timaeus, This is a great photo. Thanks for sharing! I can also confirm he says he did not touch it. Since he is swinging his arm forward from this moment, I don't think he can't reach any farther even if his body moves higher. I think a next frame would show his arm farther forward and therefore lower and the ball moving father past this point towards the goal. Make sense? Where you in the stands at about the height of the cross bar?
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Post by Drogba21 on Feb 23, 2013 17:30:18 GMT -6
I agree with pOkLE in saying that the picture does not prove that much, the goalie's hand was moving backward with the ball and touched it prior to the ball going in the goal and I know that from watching it live. I believe that the ref made the call that any other ref would have made in that position.
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Post by hitstick on Feb 23, 2013 17:43:21 GMT -6
The ref didn't know for sure. He said no goal at first until the AR convinced him otherwise. Personally I would listen to the honest testament of the goalie himself, but who knows if Episcopal would have kept up their pressure and scored after anyways
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Post by warrior16 on Feb 24, 2013 12:23:06 GMT -6
Calling it now...
The D-III Final for next year will be Episcopal vs St. Louis Catholic. Both squads will be loaded with experienced seniors who have already won state championships. I also predict a Saint victory.
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Post by futbol225 on Feb 24, 2013 12:26:19 GMT -6
St. Louis is dropping to div III? Why?
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Post by warrior16 on Feb 24, 2013 12:40:54 GMT -6
St. Louis is dropping to div III? Why? I thought they were. I heard something about them moving back to D-III for next year, but maybe it was bogus, so correct me if that's wrong. Regardless, SLC and Episcopal will be title favorites next year in whichever division they compete in.
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Post by p_malinich on Feb 24, 2013 13:16:19 GMT -6
St. Louis is dropping to div III? Why? I thought they were. I heard something about them moving back to D-III for next year, but maybe it was bogus, so correct me if that's wrong. Regardless, SLC and Episcopal will be title favorites next year in whichever division they compete in. There are several changes next year, including St. Louis returning to D-III.
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Post by warrior16 on Feb 24, 2013 13:45:58 GMT -6
Thank you for confirming this. I stand by my prediction, then.
As to why they're moving back down, I dunno. Maybe they just want to be more competitive in other sports. Although their soccer, basketball, and baseball teams are good every year. Maybe it's just for football, since they struggle to make the playoffs in that most years (this year they were 32-seed).
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Post by bschool on Feb 24, 2013 19:23:09 GMT -6
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Post by laffysoccermom on Feb 24, 2013 20:25:16 GMT -6
What if a school that has a boys team listed forms a girls team? Would they be in the same district as the boys team?
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Post by p_malinich on Feb 24, 2013 20:37:07 GMT -6
What if a school that has a boys team listed forms a girls team? Would they be in the same district as the boys team? Here's the link to the districts for 2013-14 and 2014-15. New DistrictsAt quick glance, it looks like boys & girls squads are in the same district. That said, I don't know how they handle a new team being formed in the 2-year already approved window. I think they would probably add as you suggest, but that's not fact (just my guess).
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Post by bschool on Feb 25, 2013 10:58:59 GMT -6
St. Louis dropped from Soccer Division II this year to Soccer Division III next year because every two years LA High Schools are re-classified, this year is a re-classification year, and St. Louis' dropped from a 4A school last re-classification to a 3A school this re-classification period.
2010/2011 & 2012/2013 school years:
St. Louis’ High School enrollment as they filed with LHSAA October 2010 was 647 and determined to be a 4A school.
4A Schools have Enrollments from 647 to 1,090 (St Louis is smallest | Assumption is largest) 61 Schools, 58 Football – 3 All Girls
For 2013/2014 and 2014/2015 school years:
St. Louis' reported high school enrollment October 2012 fell to 577 and therefore determined to be 3A school.
4A Schools have Enrollments from 617 to 1,114 (60 Schools, 55 Football, 1 Co-Ed Non-Football, 4 All Girls) 3A Schools have enrollments from 415 to 616 (66 Schools, 63 Football, 3 All Girls)LHSAA Soccer Section 18 determines Divisions for Soccer from Football Classifications.18.3.1
Boys’ schools shall be divided into three divisions: (A school shall not play in a lower division.) Division I - Class 5A
Division II - Class 4A Division III - Class 3A, 2A, 1A, B, and C
And note:
LHSAA Handbook/Constitution Section 8.7.1:
Once classified, a school may choose to compete for championship honors in the classification one higher than that based on its October 1 enrollment certified to the LHSAA under the guidelines of Article 8.3-Enrollment Calculation. If a school chooses to compete for championship honors in the classification one higher, it must do so in all sports. The declaration shall apply for the two-year classification intervals. The school shall make a written request to play in a higher classification no later than 12:00 noon on the day of the first classification meeting.
For All Division Comparisons from last classification period to next two years:
LHSAA Classifications for 2011/2012 & 2012/2013 school years:
5A (Soccer D1): Enrollment 1,102 to 2,355 (Parkway is smallest | Lafayette is largest) 63 Schools,56 Football, 2 Co-Ed non-Football, 5 All girls. 4A (Soccer D2): Enrollment 647 to 1,090 (St Louis is smallest | Assumption is largest) 61 Schools, 58 Football – 3 All Girls 3A (Soccer D3): 419 to 642 (St James is smallest | Glen Oaks is largest) 58 Schools, 56 Football, 2 All girls
2A (Soccer D3): Enrollment 241 to 411 (Delcambre is smallest | Pine Prairie is largest) 67 Schools, 58 Football, 6 Co-Ed non-Football – 3 All Girls1A (Soccer D3): Enrollment 240 and below; actual 85 to 238 (Crescent City is smallest | Opelousas Catholic is largest) 58 Schools, 58 Football
LHSAA Classifications for 2013/2014 & 2014/2015 school years
5A (Soccer D1): Enrollment of 1,115 and above 68 Schools, 62 Football, 2 Coed Non-Football, 4 All Girls
4A (Soccer D2): Enrollment between 617 – 1,114 60 Schools, 55 Football, 1 Co-Ed Non-Football, 4 All Girls 3A (Soccer D3): Enrollment between 415 – 616 66 Schools, 63 Football, 3 All Girls2A (Soccer D3): Enrollment between 236 – 414 64 Schools, 54 Football, 9 Co-Ed Non-Football, 2 All Girls 1A (Soccer D3): Enrollment between 235 and below 57 Schools, 57 FootballB (Soccer D3): Enrollment between 94 – 235 36 Schools, 36 Co-Ed Non-Football
C (Soccer D3): Enrollment or 93 and below
37 Schools, 37 Co-Ed Non-Football
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Post by InSwingingCorner on Feb 25, 2013 12:41:38 GMT -6
I'm curious to see if maybe those cameras set up behind the goals got a picture of the first goal. I think the picture just posted shows he didnt touch it and seeing it ln the field i didnt think he touched it but oh well the call was made. Anyways coming from a Newman player I can honestly say that despite the result it was the greatest game I've ever played in. The atmosphere and the crowds made the game that much better. Both crowds were loud and energetic and made the game awesome. Both teams left it all out on the field that game and both were deserving of a victory. EHS got lucky with those two goals but like they say good teams get lucky so congrats to them on their first state championship it was well earned.
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Post by greendad on Feb 25, 2013 18:27:24 GMT -6
I have a hand held video of Cody's goal and have watched it only once but pretty sure it shows the keeper touching the ball. I will try to post video Monday.
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Post by greendad on Feb 25, 2013 18:28:34 GMT -6
Would love to see the video if you were able to post it. (Did I miss it?)
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