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Post by L4S on Dec 2, 2014 13:00:49 GMT -6
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Dec 2, 2014 13:18:19 GMT -6
Yes.
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Post by barnacle13 on Dec 2, 2014 15:30:07 GMT -6
Definitely! He was ahead of the next to last defender (goalkeeper) and the ball at the time it was played.
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Post by rlb2024 on Dec 2, 2014 21:05:37 GMT -6
Close, but I say yes.
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Post by time2retire on Dec 2, 2014 22:19:11 GMT -6
Not the best angle, but I believe this is not offside. I had a friend ask me about this earlier on FB. Below is how I described it to him (edit: duh...I should have recognized the screen name). I couldn't add the photo to your question, but here is a still image from the last time the NY player touches the ball. In order to be offside, Phillips must be ahead of midfield, the ball, and second last defender when the ball is last touched by his teammate. He must then either become involved in active play, interfere with an opponent, or gain an advantage from being in that position to fulfill the requirement for offside. The picture below shows the "Kodak moment", or the moment the ball is last touched by a teammate. When judging offside, you must judge any part of the body that can legally play the ball. For the GK this includes the arms (in his own penalty area). When we played it was the torso, but several clarifications have come out since then. From this angle, it looks like Phillips is slightly behind, if not equal with, the second last defender at the Kodak moment...in this case, the GK on the ground. Use the goal area line as a guide. When the ball is last touched by his teammate, he is not in the offside position and therefore cannot be judged offside regardless of where he receives the ball. I believe the crew got this one right. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Dec 2, 2014 22:26:59 GMT -6
Your photo is taken before the attacker kicks the ball. When he does, the other attacker is ahead of the goalie.
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Post by time2retire on Dec 3, 2014 0:26:53 GMT -6
I tried to get the closest screen shot I could...even so, with it being that close it's a terrible angle. And if you're not 100% sure, you keep the flag down. Ergo, not offside
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Post by Steven Gerrard on Dec 3, 2014 8:27:40 GMT -6
I tried to stop it at the moment of the touch by the attacker and was never able to get it right on the money. I finally stopped because it was 3:24 in the morning and my family couldn't sleep because I kept cussing each time I missed. I guess we go back to the old adage that "it must not be offside because the AR didn't raise his flag." As a ref, I like that point of view.
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Post by happyjack on Dec 3, 2014 10:01:12 GMT -6
No such foul as "offsides" so I'd have to say no. Now, if you are asking if he was offside, it would appear so, but a better angle is preferred for a definitive answer.
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Post by dulac on Dec 4, 2014 16:11:21 GMT -6
Thank you Happyjack...a pet peeve of mine as well.
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Post by cardsinhand on Dec 5, 2014 11:16:09 GMT -6
Thank you Happyjack...a pet peeve of mine as well. I think it is common with all the instructors.
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Post by smee on Dec 5, 2014 12:16:26 GMT -6
I just ignore it now: like "handball".
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Offsides?
Dec 20, 2014 6:21:12 GMT -6
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Post by dogso on Dec 20, 2014 6:21:12 GMT -6
No such foul as "offsides" so I'd have to say no. Now, if you are asking if he was offside, it would appear so, but a better angle is preferred for a definitive answer. Another peeve beside the "s", Law 11 is an offence.
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