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Post by chelsea007 on Mar 3, 2015 20:26:12 GMT -6
Lojic did a promotion and relegation system a few years back. I used his base and set it up regionally (he really was the driving force). In short, it got shot down for mainly the reasons I mentioned before( plus the powerhouse schools that have small enrollments were probably worried about being promoted to the point of mediocrity). These are some valid concerns. That is why end of season" rankings are the way to go imo. The incentive of a double elimination is a carrot for the smaller schools that have great seasons. The weaker schools, though, can still make the post season...just in a regional format. This is an out if the box design that is goal oriented. I will link the region's from an earlier post. Don't expect any positive feedback. The status quo is the way to go, at least for some.
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Post by usasoccerboy on Mar 3, 2015 21:22:47 GMT -6
I would like to bring attention to the lesser schools again and commend Thibodaux_coach for bringing up the issue of schools like his having to play in superior level and how it is detrimental to the development of his program. I want to go back and list the thread starting divisional denominations for this year and add to them their final records for this past year. Can we do this? And then, if possible divide them up into 3 or 4 divisions based upon class. St. Paul's would obviously be 1st class and would stay up, but Vandy and Ben Franklin would be promoted to Class 1 as well based on their past history. I would even consider St. Louis being there as well. Then we need to take out those big schools like Thibodaux and place them in a lower class. I am wonder what we would come up with and how different it would look for next years 4 divisional format. Could we devise districts to satisfy the football mentality of LHSAA? Maybe for half the schools, there would be little to no difference. I am getting my final records from www.maxpreps.com/state/soccer-winter/louisiana.htm Let me know if these are inaccurate.
DI 1 Lafayette 2455 - 13 wins, 4 losses, 1 tie - Division I 2 Jesuit 2374 - 20 wins, 5 losses, 4 ties - Division I Runner up - Division I 3 Byrd 2231 - 14 wins, 6 losses, 3 ties - Division I 4 Denham Springs 2218 - 29 wins, 5 losses, 1 tie - Division I 5 Catholic-BR 2198 - 15 wins, 2 losses, 5 ties - Division I 6 West Monroe 2151 - 16 wins, 3 losses, 4 ties, District winner - Division I 7 Dutchtown 2126 - 11 wins, 10 losses, 2 ties - Division I 8 Sulphur 2003 - 11 wins, 7 losses, 3 ties - Division I 9 Barbe 1967 - 4 wins, 11 losses, 1 tie - Borderline 10 Ehret 1963 - 13 wins, 6 losses, 1 tie - Division I 11 Comeaux 1936 - 5 wins, 7 losses - Borderline 12 St Amant 1908 - 14 wins, 7 losses, 3 ties - Division I 13 Airline 1830 - 10 wins, 9 losses - Division I 14 Mandeville 1827 - 20 wins, 4 losses, 3 ties - Division I 15 East Ascension 1825 16 Brother Martin 1812 - 12 wins, 2 losses, 4 ties, Division I 17 New Iberia 1794 18 Acadiana 1787 - 23 wins, 2 losses, 2 ties, = Division I 19 Ponchatoula 1724 - 7 wins, 16 losses, 1 tie, winless in district - Demoted to Division II. 20 Chalmette 1709 - 5 wins, 11 losses, 2 ties = Borderline 21 Fontainebleau 1706 - 10 wins, 8 losses, 1 tie = Division I 22 Zachary 1577 - 13 wins, 7 losses, 1 tie 23 Walker 1568 - 0 wins, 7 losses - Demoted to Division II 24 Slidell 1556 - 8 wins, 6 losses, 2 ties = Borderline 25 Covington 1547 - 10 wins, 7 losses, 1 tie = Division I 26 Northshore 1544 - 10 wins, 5 losses, 5 ties = Division I 27 Hahnville 1530 - 4 wins, 15 losses, 1 tie - Borderline 28 Baton Rouge 1477 - 8 wins, 6 losses, 6 ties - Division I 29 Destrehan 1457 - 15 wins, 7 losses, 3 ties - Division I 30 HL Bourgeois 1441 - 2 wins, 11 losses, 3 ties - Demoted to Division II 31 Bonnabel 1433 32 Pineville 1432 - 10 wins, 17 losses, 3 ties. Borderline. 33 Natchitoches Central 1422 - 1 win; 12 losses, 2 ties = Demotion to Division II 34 St Pauls 1420 30 wins, 0 losses, 3 ties - Won Div I title = Division I 35 Hammond 1418 - 12 wins, 7 losses, 2 ties = Division I 36 Higgins 1400 - 3 wins, 13 losses, winless in district - Demoted to Division II 37 Southwood 1398 - 1 win, 12 losses last place district = Demoted to Division II 38 McKinley 1374 39 Grace King 1359 40 Thibodaux 1354 - 6 wins, 19 losses, 3 ties = Borderline 41 West Jefferson 1345 42 East St John 1340 - 7 wins, 9 losses, 4 ties - Division I 43 Central Lafourche 1337 - 15 wins, 3 losses, 3 ties - Division I 44 Captain Shreve 1324 45 Landry Walker 1316 46 Alexandria 1314 - 4 wins, 11 losses, 4 ties - Borderline 47 Central-BR 1311 - 1 win, 5 losses - Demoted to Division 48 Live Oak 1283 - 12 wins, 7 losses, 3 ties - Division I 49 Parkway 1282 - 9 wins, 9 losses, 1 tie - Division I 50 Ouachita Parish 1280 - 14 wins, 6 losses, 6 ties. Division I. 51 Terrebonne 1257 - 11 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties - Division I 52 Ruston 1251 - 20 wins, 4 losses, 5 ties - Division I. 53 Broadmoor 1250 - 0 wins, 15 losses - Demoted to Division II. 54 Archbishop Rummel 1238 - 7 wins, 10 losses 55 Haughton 1228 - 2 wins, 12 losses - Demoted to Division II. 56 Holy Cross 1222 - 3 wins, 9 losses, 3 ties - Borderline 57 East Jefferson 1159
DII 58 Woodlawn-BR 1156 59 South Lafourche 1146 - 2 wins, 11 losses, 1 tie in Division I - Demotion to Div. II 60 West Ouachita 1138 61 Caddo Magnet 1122 - 12 wins, 6 losses, 2 ties in Division I. Stays in Division I. 62 Carencro 1090 63 Westgate 1086 64 St Thomas More 1076 65 Tara 1065 66 Lakeshore 1052 67 Belaire 1048 - 3 wins, 7 losses, 3 ties - Borderline 68 South Terrebonne 1016 69 Salmen 978 70 Neville 973 71 Tioga 972 72 Ellender 969 73 Helen Cox 962 74 Northwood 955 75 Riverdale 945 76 Ben Franklin 897 - 19 wins, 5 losses, 3 ties - Division II Runner Up - Promoted to Division I 77 Beau Chene 896 - 27 wins, 1 loss, 5 ties - Promoted to Division I. 78 Benton 887 79 Belle Chasse 884 80 Bastrop 857 - 1 win, 15 losses, 2 ties - Demoted to Division III 81 Minden 846 82 Franklinton 829 83 Opelousas 813 84 Deridder 805 85 Plaquemine 801 86 Morgan City 800 - 12 wins, 7 losses, 1 tie 87 Archbishop Shaw 787 - 1 win, 16 losses in Div. I, so demoted to Div. II. 88 Leesville 782 89 Grant 747 90 Teurlings 735 91 St Michaels 726 92 Pearl River 707 93 Vandebilt 696 - 18 wins, 7 losses, 7 ties - won Division II title = Promoted to Division I 94 Abbeville 672 95 Bossier 661 96 North Desoto 653
DIII 97 Lutcher 628 98 ED White 622 99 West Feliciana 601 100 North Vermillion 591 101 Buckeye 591 102 Peabody 575 103 St Louis 570 - 16 wins, 3 losses, 3 ties - won Division III - Promoted to Division II 104 Bolton 561 105 Erath 555 106 NO Military and Maritime 539 107 International HS of NO 536 108 Kaplan 531 109 Lusher Charter 505 110 Parkview Baptist 493 111 University 448 112 Independence 441 113 De le Salle 440 114 JS Clark 432 115 Loyola 432 116 Notre Dame 424 117 Episcopal 406 118 Thomas Jefferson 400 119 Archbishop Hannan 398 120 St Charles 391 - 5 wins, 2 losses - Div. III Runner up - Promoted to Div. II 121 Catholic -NI 390 122 Haynes Academy 379 123 Evangel Christian 366 124 Pine 364 125 Menard 351 126 Lee Magnet 350 127 St Thomas Aquinas 343 128 North Caddo 341 129 Red River 335 130 Isadore Newman 332 - 14 wins, 1 loss, 4 ties - Promoted to Division II 131 David Thibodaux 314 132 Pope John Paul II 293 133 Riverside Academy 292 134 Northlake Christian 279 135 Dunham 277 136 Ouachita Christian 268 137 Rapides 268 138 Opelousas Catholic 262 139 Metairie Park Country Day 241 140 Calvary Baptist 241 141 Christian Life 239 142 Runnels 235 143 Westminster Christian 228 144 Lafayette Christian 210 145 Catholic PC 202 146 Ascension Episcopal 201 147 St Frederick 194 148 St Martins 181 149 Patrick Taylor 180 150 Episcopal of Acadiana 176 151 Glenmora 169 152 Houma Christian 167 153 Grace Christian 144 154 Covenant Christian 139 155 Ascension Christian 132 156 Lutheran 103
Is this from 14-15? Thib went 5-11-3 in 14-15 LHSAA has the schools records and results. I took these records first from News Paper reports and then from the website listed above. If it is from the 13-14 season, I apologize. Again, I have been out of the loop so I didn't pick up on it, but for the most part, it would still show how the divisions would look this year if applied last years records. No big deal. I can do it all over again, but the point is you can see how relegation and promotion could work in the current LHSAA district system in place right now where the weaker schools could play in a lower division. Again, for the most part, the distribution of the teams is not that much different from the non promotion and relegation system so I see these people claiming reasons it would not work as not valid and in error.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Mar 4, 2015 4:58:54 GMT -6
I think there is one reason it will not work LHSAA. If soccer was governed completely separately then probably very viable.
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Post by methuselah on Mar 4, 2015 7:37:21 GMT -6
I've been following this discussion. And as I've said, I haven't had any objections to the idea of a promotion/regulation system (other than it's unlikelihood of ever being instituted).. Heck, I've even proposed one based on the numbers of club players each team has historically fielded.
But the more I read this thread, the more I'm thinking that at best these proposals are waste of the creative energies and ideas of some well intention-ed people. At worst I think it would take the high school sport in the wrong direction - taking the sport more in the botique or niche category and away from the main stream.
The more I think about it the more I come the the conclusion that what is really needed is the continuing broadening of the sport to more and more people. That way the talent pool will grow and thus the number of inherently talented people. Thus, those choosing to concentrate on soccer will be better.
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Post by loJic on Mar 4, 2015 10:45:34 GMT -6
Pro/rel won't work. I've come to terms with that a few years ago. But since we are now accepting power ratings as the deciding factor for placing teams in the playoffs, we can use that to find creative solutions to allow some sort of system to level the playing field across the board. I'll post my idea shortly.
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Post by usasoccerboy on Mar 4, 2015 11:18:29 GMT -6
I now know that it would work and would work easily. We already have regions and districts in LHSAA's current system. Lowest team in the district gets relegated, and the highest team in the district gets promoted. Simple. Easy. Common sense.
Now, those bottom teams in the district have something to compete for at the end of the district season.
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Post by firebruin on Mar 4, 2015 12:49:54 GMT -6
I think one of the biggest challenges to soccer in Louisiana is the lure of other sports. Even at a young age, my son is being bombarded with people asking him to play on this or that youth <insert sport here> team. After a few years of running around from soccer to baseball to football to basketball, I'm about to go nuts keeping up with his schedule. He's going to have to pick a couple of sports soon, and I think that that is what keeps development of premier soccer players down in Louisiana as they start picking other sports at an earlier age.
From what the playoffs showed, the power rankings worked for the most part.
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Post by shreve/magnet pops on Mar 4, 2015 15:55:46 GMT -6
I said on another thread: 2 killers of high school boy players are: 1. No real college programs: jucco, d1-3, naia 2. TOPS education program. Where is a boy going to play instate that can use this credit? So, out of state play is required if you want to play at next level. Tough decision for a family & kid on that subject. If there were aleast 1 school in each of the above divisions- development would grow. MS is not a soccer powerhouse but they have many jucco, d3, & naia schools- compared to LA. There is not a TOPS Program there but they have kids who can see THE NEXT LEVEL. Become a student athlete! LA college, centenary, & lsua are boys only options! HARD TO SEE THE NEXT LEVEL at those options! If MS had that option, they would be a powerhouse & would probably have a d1 school in the mix. -other sports are not handcuffed by this. Girls soccer is not either. Girls SEC soccer is pretty strong & has and is making history - has growth. FYI- Centenary is private & your kid must live on campus 4 years- your boarding is the same price as tuition. So, a free tops ride will cost you 20k a year. Not a real option. Hall97 has it right, out of state or private tuition costs are a reality of a boy wants to go to the next level out of LA. Sad but true.
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Post by usasoccerboy on Mar 4, 2015 23:03:02 GMT -6
I said on another thread: 2 killers of high school boy players are: 1. No real college programs: jucco, d1-3, naia 2. TOPS education program. Where is a boy going to play instate that can use this credit? So, out of state play is required if you want to play at next level. Tough decision for a family & kid on that subject. If there were aleast 1 school in each of the above divisions- development would grow. MS is not a soccer powerhouse but they have many jucco, d3, & naia schools- compared to LA. There is not a TOPS Program there but they have kids who can see THE NEXT LEVEL. Become a student athlete! LA college, centenary, & lsua are boys only options! HARD TO SEE THE NEXT LEVEL at those options! If MS had that option, they would be a powerhouse & would probably have a d1 school in the mix. -other sports are not handcuffed by this. Girls soccer is not either. Girls SEC soccer is pretty strong & has and is making history - has growth. FYI- Centenary is private & your kid must live on campus 4 years- your boarding is the same price as tuition. So, a free tops ride will cost you 20k a year. Not a real option. Hall97 has it right, out of state or private tuition costs are a reality of a boy wants to go to the next level out of LA. Sad but true. One thing that a friend of mine did with his son is sent him to Germany where he is playing lower division soccer after getting a tryout. Not only is he getting top training and coaching, he is learning a new language and culture and getting the true international experience a player can't get in college. This may seem difficult, but it really seems like a better option for the true soccer player than going to any college system. The problem with college soccer is the NCAA treats it like an American sport where there are short seasons and long off seasons. This is what is most responsible for our youth teams doing so terrible in my opinion for the men's game, but ironically, what is responsible for the women's game being so much better than the rest of the world.
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Post by deobserver on Mar 4, 2015 23:40:56 GMT -6
I said on another thread: 2 killers of high school boy players are: 1. No real college programs: jucco, d1-3, naia 2. TOPS education program. Where is a boy going to play instate that can use this credit? So, out of state play is required if you want to play at next level. Tough decision for a family & kid on that subject. If there were aleast 1 school in each of the above divisions- development would grow. MS is not a soccer powerhouse but they have many jucco, d3, & naia schools- compared to LA. There is not a TOPS Program there but they have kids who can see THE NEXT LEVEL. Become a student athlete! LA college, centenary, & lsua are boys only options! HARD TO SEE THE NEXT LEVEL at those options! If MS had that option, they would be a powerhouse & would probably have a d1 school in the mix. -other sports are not handcuffed by this. Girls soccer is not either. Girls SEC soccer is pretty strong & has and is making history - has growth. FYI- Centenary is private & your kid must live on campus 4 years- your boarding is the same price as tuition. So, a free tops ride will cost you 20k a year. Not a real option. Hall97 has it right, out of state or private tuition costs are a reality of a boy wants to go to the next level out of LA. Sad but true. Let me say most kids will pay more going out of state to play. La college and lsua are cheaper than most schools even when receiving athletic scharship. Talking about the next level I bet you didn't know that Louisiana College in the past 4 years have had 2 ex international youth players. 2% of college athletes play pro. And most pros other than in the united stares start at ages 16-18. I honestly don't know how this topic game into this thread. Louisiana soccer players need to do proper research and give their local colleges a chance.
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Post by shreve/magnet pops on Mar 5, 2015 0:29:08 GMT -6
I said on another thread: 2 killers of high school boy players are: 1. No real college programs: jucco, d1-3, naia 2. TOPS education program. Where is a boy going to play instate that can use this credit? So, out of state play is required if you want to play at next level. Tough decision for a family & kid on that subject. If there were aleast 1 school in each of the above divisions- development would grow. MS is not a soccer powerhouse but they have many jucco, d3, & naia schools- compared to LA. There is not a TOPS Program there but they have kids who can see THE NEXT LEVEL. Become a student athlete! LA college, centenary, & lsua are boys only options! HARD TO SEE THE NEXT LEVEL at those options! If MS had that option, they would be a powerhouse & would probably have a d1 school in the mix. -other sports are not handcuffed by this. Girls soccer is not either. Girls SEC soccer is pretty strong & has and is making history - has growth. FYI- Centenary is private & your kid must live on campus 4 years- your boarding is the same price as tuition. So, a free tops ride will cost you 20k a year. Not a real option. Hall97 has it right, out of state or private tuition costs are a reality of a boy wants to go to the next level out of LA. Sad but true. Let me say most kids will pay more going out of state to play. La college and lsua are cheaper than most schools even when receiving athletic scharship. Talking about the next level I bet you didn't know that Louisiana College in the past 4 years have had 2 ex international youth players. 2% of college athletes play pro. And most pros other than in the united stares start at ages 16-18. I honestly don't know how this topic game into this thread. Louisiana soccer players need to do proper research and give their local colleges a chance. Exactly- out of state is more expensive & TOPS only works in state! There are only 2 options for kids to stay here & play. The next level is college for high schoolers. Why jump to pro & what other countries do. USA doesn't allow for this. It's a mute point. If 16 year olds didn't have to go to school we could make some amazing players, unrealistic. High schoolers should be able to see a future in state like a kid playing any other sport. It came into this thread because of the post about kids choosing sports in high school. Also, this division talk has started discussions about if that improves or weakens the game in the state. I think kids not seeing an option is weakening the development in LA. Lastly, it won't take much time to research a whopping 2 programs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 9:02:01 GMT -6
Regarding college options, it's worth mentioning again that looking at private colleges requires a lot of research and due diligence.
In other words, don't get "sticker shock" when looking at tuition rates. Just like everything else, it's very negotiable.
A talented student athlete can get a great financial package. Especially if they are good in the classroom. Unlike public schools, private schools have a lot of flexibility and latitude in recruiting. The price you pay versus the "sticker price" are sometimes drastically different.
Finally, while things are changing, the vast majority of exceptional players are going to go to college. There just aren't as many opportunities to take the professional route. Not in this country. While there is a lot I don't like about college soccer, it is getting better. And I am all for a player pursuing excellence and maximizing their opportunities.
But getting a quality education should be the top priority. Regardless of perceived status or level of play.
I think too many talented La players aren't looking at the big picture with regards to playing college soccer. Sure there are few in state options. (Although Centenary is a program on the rise and the academics are first rate.)
This is a sport that can be played decades after high school ends. High school soccer should not be viewed as the alpha and omega of playing competitively. The Louisiana Premier League is an option for those players that don't go the traditional college soccer route.
Let's raise the bar folks.
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Post by methuselah on Mar 5, 2015 16:35:55 GMT -6
Getting back to the basis of this thread: Are the districts finalized? I haven't really seen much on it after the flurry at the last meeting (not even sure if that meeting went off - I seem to remember reading something about weather keeping some folks/schools away)?
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Post by loJic on Mar 5, 2015 16:51:33 GMT -6
This is a sport that can be played decades after high school ends. High school soccer should not be viewed as the alpha and omega of playing competitively. The Louisiana Premier League is an option for those players that don't go the traditional college soccer route.Let's raise the bar folks. I just want people to know that I did not pay him to say this. Thanks for the shout out though Hall!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 9:56:48 GMT -6
This is a sport that can be played decades after high school ends. High school soccer should not be viewed as the alpha and omega of playing competitively. The Louisiana Premier League is an option for those players that don't go the traditional college soccer route.Let's raise the bar folks. I just want people to know that I did not pay him to say this. Thanks for the shout out though Hall! It's the truth!
A true passion for the game and the proper perspective are what it's all about!
The rest of it will sort itself out.
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Post by striker225 on Mar 6, 2015 12:35:10 GMT -6
Regarding college options, it's worth mentioning again that looking at private colleges requires a lot of research and due diligence. In other words, don't get "sticker shock" when looking at tuition rates. Just like everything else, it's very negotiable. A talented student athlete can get a great financial package. Especially if they are good in the classroom. Unlike public schools, private schools have a lot of flexibility and latitude in recruiting. The price you pay versus the "sticker price" are sometimes drastically different. Finally, while things are changing, the vast majority of exceptional players are going to go to college. There just aren't as many opportunities to take the professional route. Not in this country. While there is a lot I don't like about college soccer, it is getting better. And I am all for a player pursuing excellence and maximizing their opportunities. But getting a quality education should be the top priority. Regardless of perceived status or level of play. I think too many talented La players aren't looking at the big picture with regards to playing college soccer. Sure there are few in state options. (Although Centenary is a program on the rise and the academics are first rate.) This is a sport that can be played decades after high school ends. High school soccer should not be viewed as the alpha and omega of playing competitively. The Louisiana Premier League is an option for those players that don't go the traditional college soccer route. Let's raise the bar folks. This post is spot on! Division III is the NCAA’s largest division (approximately 40% of total membership) with 450 member institutions (both full and provisional). Of the member institutions, 81% are private, while only 19% are public. Division III schools range in size from a minimum undergraduate enrollment of 348 to a maximum of 21,247, but the average enrollment is 2,717.
Not all soccer players have aspirations to play at the professional level. They just love the sport and want play at he collegiate level. This was case with my oldest son(baseball player). He set a goal to play sports at the college level when he was a freshman in high school and accomplished that goal at an out of state DIII school. One that offers a great education by the way. As hall97 points out, these private schools have tremendous latitude with there money and most do care about there athletic programs. They understand the value student athletes bring to their campus.
Finding these opportunities takes work, but hey, our kids are worth it!
FWIW, This school made the "Leadership Award" offer to my son and when I mentioned he was eligible for TOPS, they increased the scholarship amount equal to the Louisiana college tuition average. So to say that TOPS is no good for out of state schools is not entirely accurate. It is my understanding that some out of state schools, like this particular one in MS, will honor TOPS.
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Post by shreve/magnet pops on Mar 6, 2015 18:00:47 GMT -6
Regarding college options, it's worth mentioning again that looking at private colleges requires a lot of research and due diligence. In other words, don't get "sticker shock" when looking at tuition rates. Just like everything else, it's very negotiable. A talented student athlete can get a great financial package. Especially if they are good in the classroom. Unlike public schools, private schools have a lot of flexibility and latitude in recruiting. The price you pay versus the "sticker price" are sometimes drastically different. Finally, while things are changing, the vast majority of exceptional players are going to go to college. There just aren't as many opportunities to take the professional route. Not in this country. While there is a lot I don't like about college soccer, it is getting better. And I am all for a player pursuing excellence and maximizing their opportunities. But getting a quality education should be the top priority. Regardless of perceived status or level of play. I think too many talented La players aren't looking at the big picture with regards to playing college soccer. Sure there are few in state options. (Although Centenary is a program on the rise and the academics are first rate.) This is a sport that can be played decades after high school ends. High school soccer should not be viewed as the alpha and omega of playing competitively. The Louisiana Premier League is an option for those players that don't go the traditional college soccer route. Let's raise the bar folks. This post is spot on! Division III is the NCAA’s largest division (approximately 40% of total membership) with 450 member institutions (both full and provisional). Of the member institutions, 81% are private, while only 19% are public. Division III schools range in size from a minimum undergraduate enrollment of 348 to a maximum of 21,247, but the average enrollment is 2,717.
Not all soccer players have aspirations to play at the professional level. They just love the sport and want play at he collegiate level. This was case with my oldest son(baseball player). He set a goal to play sports at the college level when he was a freshman in high school and accomplished that goal at an out of state DIII school. One that offers a great education by the way. As hall97 points out, these private schools have tremendous latitude with there money and most do care about there athletic programs. They understand the value student athletes bring to their campus.
Finding these opportunities takes work, but hey, our kids are worth it!
FWIW, This school made the "Leadership Award" offer to my son and when I mentioned he was eligible for TOPS, they increased the scholarship amount equal to the Louisiana college tuition average. So to say that TOPS is no good for out of state schools is not entirely accurate. It is my understanding that some out of state schools, like this particular one in MS, will honor TOPS.
I appreciate all this information. I am just basing my info on my private MS d3 school & what they did 25 years ago, when I graduated. I realize times have changed. I went to continue to play soccer; that's all college was for me. After my freshmen year, I realized that I was there to get an education. It took my parents sitting me down & showing me my financial aide package that showed it cost $ 25,000 a year. I got it quick! Thanks again. Need to know for the future.
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Post by shreve/magnet pops on Mar 6, 2015 18:03:17 GMT -6
I got on website today. Are there any updates to the divisions for next year or did I miss a date in a previous post. Thx
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