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Post by ecolintman on Jan 21, 2015 7:28:24 GMT -6
Why is playing the ball on the ground considered dangerous play whether it is "dangerous" or not? Since there is no rule that prohibits it, what is taught in the referee course? I never see it called in the EPL.
I found this in a USSF publication "Committing a dangerous act while an opponent is nearby is not, by itself, an offense. The act becomes an offense only when an opponent is adversely and unfairly affected, usually by the opponent ceasing to challenge for the ball in order to avoid receiving or causing injury as a direct result of the player’s act."
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Post by im4christ on Jan 21, 2015 8:17:28 GMT -6
I would only call it, if their playing the ball on the gound put them in a dangerous situation (getting kicked by an opponent, or such)
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Post by happyjack on Jan 21, 2015 9:53:11 GMT -6
My take...players have shin guards, so if an opponent Is kicking in that area, can't be dangerous. If it moves above the knees, the danger moves up
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Post by dulac on Jan 21, 2015 9:58:39 GMT -6
Getting stepped on, someone falling over the player on the ground, player on the ground getting kicked in the head...all dangerous situations. If, however, no one is near the player on the ground, there is no dangerous situation, so "no call".
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Post by time2retire on Jan 21, 2015 10:33:41 GMT -6
Let us not forget high school's interpretation of this...you can commit playing in a dangerous manner against an opponent, teammate, or yourself...
This is one of the more misunderstood myths of the game (playing while on the ground)
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Post by p_malinich on Jan 21, 2015 11:00:48 GMT -6
I think a lot of that misunderstanding starts that the wee ones until some age are simply not allowed to kick the ball on the ground. Parents get taught then to scream every time an opposing player (not their Johnny) plays a ball from the ground. The key word is dangerous and that (like many things) is subject to the assigned referees' perspective at that moment.
And at the risk of "living in the past"... Being in NC and PA now, we are certainly missing this year's high school season and playoff run. We've chatted several times about moments from last year. Here's the NFHS video of the assist that Andrew had in the State Championship game. He clearly goes to ground, crawls, and plays ball from the ground. It's been seen many times & no one has ever suggested it was dangerous (and no, Coach Chetta, please don't start now).
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Post by happyjack on Jan 21, 2015 11:25:14 GMT -6
player on the ground getting kicked in the head...". [ Kicking a player is not dangerous play, that is kicking and a different foul...but you knew that
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Post by cardsinhand on Jan 21, 2015 15:29:44 GMT -6
I think a lot of that misunderstanding starts that the wee ones until some age are simply not allowed to kick the ball on the ground. Parents get taught then to scream every time an opposing player (not their Johnny) plays a ball from the ground. The key word is dangerous and that (like many things) is subject to the assigned referees' perspective at that moment. And at the risk of "living in the past"... Being in NC and PA now, we are certainly missing this year's high school season and playoff run. We've chatted several times about moments from last year. Here's the NFHS video of the assist that Andrew had in the State Championship game. He clearly goes to ground, crawls, and plays ball from the ground. It's been seen many times & no one has ever suggested it was dangerous (and no, Coach Chetta, please don't start now). Good stuff Paul. Perfect example of "not dangerous". Kind of like "high kick", keepers do it all the time.
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Post by cardsinhand on Jan 21, 2015 15:30:06 GMT -6
player on the ground getting kicked in the head...". [ Kicking a player is not dangerous play, that is kicking and a different foul...but you knew that Play nice!
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Post by happyjack on Jan 21, 2015 15:42:06 GMT -6
[ Kicking a player is not dangerous play, that is kicking and a different foul...but you knew that Play nice! Didn't mean it as bad as it reads..I just don't want someone popping into this thread and walking away thinking a kick to the head is simply dangerous play
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Post by spanishcampeones on Feb 2, 2015 23:12:50 GMT -6
This is just like parents yelling " high kick". You can kick the ball up in the air as long as there is no ones face nearby. Just like playing off the ground is not an offense. That's why you don't see it called in the ePL league or any other professional league.
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