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Post by loJic on Sept 20, 2015 20:55:52 GMT -6
Here's one for yall to chew one.
Ref awards penalty to team A.
Team A takes penalty but another player advanced too early in the penalty area. Ref blows whistle and allows goal kick to team B. Team B take goal kick and advances down field to scores. Team A erupts in disgust and approaches ref, ref stops game to allow protest. This protest goes on for 25 min.
A. Was this the right call?l B. Should the ref have allowed protest and 25 minutes to pass without enforcing restart of the game?
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Post by laffysoccermom on Sept 21, 2015 18:17:22 GMT -6
How was the protest being handled- someone went to get tournament director or was it simply them fussing at the ref? If it was just them fussing, the ref shouldn't have let it go on for three minutes, much less 25.
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Post by time2retire on Sept 21, 2015 18:41:23 GMT -6
We talked offline but the answer can be beneficial to all.
Team A has a PK. Team A encroached. The ball enters the net.
The restart is another PK. This is very clear in Law 14 and supporting chart in Advice To Referees and Interpretations/Guidelines (I will continue to be a fan of ATR despite its death).
At least one of the referee crew should have gotten this right, or at least, given the referee the correct information. I wasn't there so I can't answer for what was or wasn't done.
The "protest" as it is named was on the field. For the sake of clarity let's call it a hold-up. So the game was held-up for 25 minutes because Team A knew a misapplication of Law 14 took place. The easiest way to prevent a hold-up is to put the ball into play. From what I understand, the hold-up occurred before the Team A kickoff - Team B took the ball down field and scored from the "goal kick". So blow the whistle and order the ball into play. Caution for DR when they refuse.
Now to me, a protest to the league should be upheld because of the misapplication of Law 14. Whether they replay in its entirety or from the point of protest is a league decision based on their rules of competition.
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Post by premier on Sept 22, 2015 12:59:07 GMT -6
I think this was involved in the ULM-Tech club game this past weekend. ULM was awarded a PK and scored of the ensuring kick, but a ULM player entered into the penalty box before the kick was taken. The AR threw his flag up and waved to signal an infraction(incorrect procedure, should have held flag as if to signal a substitute while having the flag at his waist and not moving from his position). Play was never restarted before the center saw and acknowledged the AR. The center awarded Tech an indirect free kick from the spot of the incident(we all agree it should have been a retake of the PK according to Law 14) and ULM retaliated and argued for approximately 7-10 minutes. The call was upheld an play resumed. No further goals were scored after the incident.
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Post by time2retire on Sept 22, 2015 15:55:06 GMT -6
Oh, wow. Well that makes two incidents that I'm aware of from this past weekend.
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Post by loJic on Sept 22, 2015 18:43:14 GMT -6
Yes, very crazy.
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Post by time2retire on Sept 23, 2015 19:39:23 GMT -6
There's a chart that is fairly simple which hasn't changed in a while. In the heat of the moment sometimes you make honest mistakes. Just that those mistakes could lead to a legitimate protest of the result of the game. I used to work a bunch of leagues, all with their little nuances. I can remember having to feel the shape of my badge to remember how to deal with a situation.
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Post by time2retire on Sept 23, 2015 19:47:20 GMT -6
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