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Post by SoccerRocks on Jun 28, 2017 13:02:50 GMT -6
Interesting point. It might be worth comparing total teams this year versus last year when the schedules come out. Mandeville seems like they are feeling the encroachment from the other clubs in the area. Also, CCU merged with BRSC so you know that should also cause the loss of more players thus teams.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Jun 28, 2017 20:29:58 GMT -6
I didn't know CCU merged with BRSC. Interesting? I don't think you will truly know how this will affect things until a couple of years down the road.
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Post by soccer2mama on Jul 2, 2017 15:24:24 GMT -6
Per the partial posting of this years rosters on Club websites, it looks like Mandeville will have 4 (3 boys and 1 girls) fewer LCSL teams between 14-17U, Fire will have at least 4 (1 boys and 3 girls) less and CABOSA will have 5 (3 boys and 2 girls) less LCSL teams. That is a total of 13 less LCSL teams. Those clubs moved 6 teams to the LPDL so there is a net loss of 7 teams in total. I'm sure some of the teams would have been lost due to the natural loss of players over time as they get older. And the net result is that now you have several quality players looking for a place to play in many parts of the state. It's a shame that all the resources are being pooled to benefit the top 4-10 players in these 4 birth years/age groups to the undeniable detriment of the other 10-30 in those same groups. The adults are screwing it up again. After spending 2 years learning that there is a college match for any kid that really wants to play, and preparing one to play at the next level in the fall, now my rising U17 player who very much wants to play in college is looking for a team. We all know life isn't fair, but it shouldn't be THIS unfair in YOUTH SPORTS.
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Post by SoccerRocks on Jul 2, 2017 16:01:16 GMT -6
Per the partial posting of this years rosters on Club websites, it looks like Mandeville will have 4 (3 boys and 1 girls) fewer LCSL teams between 14-17U, Fire will have at least 4 (1 boys and 3 girls) less and CABOSA will have 5 (3 boys and 2 girls) less LCSL teams. That is a total of 13 less LCSL teams. Those clubs moved 6 teams to the LPDL so there is a net loss of 7 teams in total. I'm sure some of the teams would have been lost due to the natural loss of players over time as they get older. And the net result is that now you have several quality players looking for a place to play in many parts of the state. It's a shame that all the resources are being pooled to benefit the top 4-10 players in these 4 birth years/age groups to the undeniable detriment of the other 10-30 in those same groups. The adults are screwing it up again. After spending 2 years learning that there is a college match for any kid that really wants to play, and preparing one to play at the next level in the fall, now my rising U17 player who very much wants to play in college is looking for a team. We all know life isn't fair, but it shouldn't be THIS unfair in YOUTH SPORTS.
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Post by soccer2mama on Jul 2, 2017 16:06:12 GMT -6
There is more to come as well. Think it will easily take a few years to shake out, which doesn't help U16+ now. They will be gone by the time it's resolved.
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Post by SoccerRocks on Jul 2, 2017 16:09:43 GMT -6
I take it this is your son. Did he tryout for one of these teams?
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Post by soccer2mama on Jul 2, 2017 16:19:25 GMT -6
Yes, and we did not expect him to make LPDL. Did expect to have a team. He's 2001, and the 2002 group is both talented and prolific. It's just a shame that so many kids are now in this position.
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Post by willowdale on Jul 2, 2017 21:05:30 GMT -6
I feel for you soccer2mama. Every year is a crap shoot with age group changes, coach changes, regional play changes and for some clubs practice campus changes. Don't you think the talented and prolific 2002s would go further in state, regionally and nationally as 02's vs 01s? LPDL makes no sense and clubs that are smart and don't play into the short sighted strategy will be better off. The kids and parents will be better off as well as the teams will for the most part stay together and not break up and reform every 2 years.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Jul 2, 2017 21:30:34 GMT -6
I was doing some reading on one of websites that will have a LPDL team. It doesn't say the roster size but says that they will only roster 18 for each event. I have no idea how many they plan on rostering but if they are doing 22-24- you will have 4-6 left out of every event. Hopefully they will rotate so that everyone will get significant playing time because the fees are high.
I feel for the kids that want to play but are now without teams. That just stinks. Maybe this is just growing pains but if it's your kid- it's kinda hard to take.
I'm also wondering how quickly the rules are gonna change when one of the big clubs can't form a LPDL team in a few years. You end of having kids give it up because they couldn't find a team and a few on the LPDL quit- and then you don't have enough for a U19 team.
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Post by cosmos on Jul 3, 2017 13:37:24 GMT -6
I was doing some reading on one of websites that will have a LPDL team. It doesn't say the roster size but says that they will only roster 18 for each event. I have no idea how many they plan on rostering but if they are doing 22-24- you will have 4-6 left out of every event. Hopefully they will rotate so that everyone will get significant playing time because the fees are high. I feel for the kids that want to play but are now without teams. That just stinks. Maybe this is just growing pains but if it's your kid- it's kinda hard to take. I'm also wondering how quickly the rules are gonna change when one of the big clubs can't form a LPDL team in a few years. You end of having kids give it up because they couldn't find a team and a few on the LPDL quit- and then you don't have enough for a U19 team. I would not be too concerned about roster sizes. The LPDL model allows in theory a large pool of players to pull from for games. In reality these are just a mixed aged top level teams at most clubs. I even think at the two largest clubs they are just remaining the normal top level single age teams actually. Kids have to tryout for these teams, families have to pay increased fees etc. On occasion a player could be moved up or down, but not as easily as it sounds on paper. At the smaller 3 clubs in the LPDL one problem is that about 11 players often make teams at the older ages and 5-6 at the younger ages from what I have heard. This causes an extra layer of complexity for team formation for the normal club teams at the older ages as has already been stated by a recent post. I belive they are being soft on the requirment to have U19 LPDL teams. Not required the first year and in the future if a club can not field a team at this age, I belive a non LPDL can be moved up to fill its spot for league play.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Jul 3, 2017 16:37:26 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see. It won't affect us. It's my daughter's last year and she is staying with the team she played with last year. It's nowhere near that level or expense.
She's not interested in playing in college except for fun.
I'm going to stay tuned. What clubs are keeping it at single age teams? Won't that be weird- you're in the league one year and in regular LCSL the next?
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Post by cosmos on Jul 3, 2017 17:30:52 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see. It won't affect us. It's my daughter's last year and she is staying with the team she played with last year. It's nowhere near that level or expense. She's not interested in playing in college except for fun. I'm going to stay tuned. What clubs are keeping it at single age teams? Won't that be weird- you're in the league one year and in regular LCSL the next? I belive BRSC and LA Fire are just entering their top U15, 17 team etc at the LPDL ages and not mixing ages. I do not belive they are doing this to gain any competitive advantage. They are large enough clubs that they just don't need to do this to compete with the other clubs in the LPDL. Mixing ages would probably just negatively affect team chemistry within their clubs.
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Post by cajunczar on Jul 3, 2017 20:48:02 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see. It won't affect us. It's my daughter's last year and she is staying with the team she played with last year. It's nowhere near that level or expense. She's not interested in playing in college except for fun. I'm going to stay tuned. What clubs are keeping it at single age teams? Won't that be weird- you're in the league one year and in regular LCSL the next? I belive BRSC and LA Fire are just entering their top U15, 17 team etc at the LPDL ages and not mixing ages. I do not belive they are doing this to gain any competitive advantage. They are large enough clubs that they just don't need to do this to compete with the other clubs in the LPDL. Mixing ages would probably just negatively affect team chemistry within their clubs. That is exactly what BRSC is doing. They may bring the younger players for tournaments such as CASL and Dallas.
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Post by willowdale on Jul 4, 2017 6:39:37 GMT -6
I belive BRSC and LA Fire are just entering their top U15, 17 team etc at the LPDL ages and not mixing ages. I do not belive they are doing this to gain any competitive advantage. They are large enough clubs that they just don't need to do this to compete with the other clubs in the LPDL. Mixing ages would probably just negatively affect team chemistry within their clubs. That is exactly what BRSC is doing. They may bring the younger players for tournaments such as CASL and Dallas. Or just bring the U14s and U16s to CASL and Dallas. LPDL doesn't punch your ticket to these tournaments. Team history does if I'm not mistaken. LPDL could alter a team history if not formed properly. If you displace a weaker 01 team with a talented and prolific 02 team whose history do you use in the 01 age group?
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Post by laffysoccermom on Jul 4, 2017 8:06:05 GMT -6
Technically LPDL teams if formed as mixed ages will truly never have a history as the team will change every year.
That being said I don't think the CSC senior academy team's which are basically how this is modeled had any issues getting into amy of the elite tournaments. I'm not sure how they did but a mom was telling me all the tournaments they went to.
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Post by ? on Jul 26, 2017 12:57:29 GMT -6
The numbers are in. It looks like 14U-19U is down about 31 teams. LPDL is pulling 20 teams. Net loss is 11 teams. 13U is actually up 9 teams. So the total loss to the LCSL is minimal at this point. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 11:15:15 GMT -6
What age does LPDL start?
Which clubs have it?
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Post by letthemenjoy on Jan 24, 2019 22:18:25 GMT -6
We are joining this spring. Any info is appreciated on how this impacts the club.
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Post by straightdummin on Feb 11, 2019 12:30:57 GMT -6
LPDL is played every other year. in the off-year they play LCSL. to my knowledge the "smaller" clubs don't qualify for LPDL.
Once a kid has his driver's license, he can drive to any club that is within 1-2 hours for practice. Waaaayy back in the 1990's this was commonplace. In Texas, some kids driver hours to play on a better team.
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