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Post by legna on Jan 11, 2019 8:17:24 GMT -6
Ok, I think it is time to start the annual discussion on Power Rankings. Looking at the rankings, are there any BIG mistakes right now. Teams that should be much higher or lower (other than SSA being 2 instead of 1)
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Post by balotellitoagueroooo on Jan 11, 2019 8:36:44 GMT -6
The biggest aberration for me is West Monroe at #4 in D-1 --> Padded schedule, way too high. Byrd skull-dragged them on Tuesday and Byrd is 3 and WM is 4? Hmm...
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Post by 3balz on Jan 11, 2019 9:33:32 GMT -6
West Monroe (8-0 loss to Mandeville, 6-0 loss to Byrd) is the only team in the top 8 that doesn't belong. I don't blame them though. They are trying to play the best teams regardless of division in their area. Generrally, a 10 win team in Div IV is not the same as a 10 win team in Div I. However, the PR calculation values it equally.
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Post by CoachO on Jan 11, 2019 10:27:47 GMT -6
I think Barbe is underrated by about 4-6 spots. Aside from that and West Monroe, DI is good.
Ben Franklin is pretty underrated as well in D2. Probably 4-5 spots.
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Post by stmparent on Jan 11, 2019 11:30:21 GMT -6
One of the biggest problems with the PR is that the number of games a team plays is not standard. Not that many people beat SSA, but they generally play fewer games than other teams, so they have less total wins. You would currently get twice as many points for beating Houma Christian as SSA (Nothing against Houma Christian)
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Post by balotellitoagueroooo on Jan 11, 2019 12:19:30 GMT -6
One of the biggest problems with the PR is that the number of games a team plays is not standard. Not that many people beat SSA, but they generally play fewer games than other teams, so they have less total wins. You would currently get twice as many points for beating Houma Christian as SSA (Nothing against Houma Christian) Well, again, smart by SSA to game the system to help themselves. They also can afford to not play many games because their district is not that weak in terms of number of wins. Other teams have to overcome an awful district where they drop significantly.
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Post by stmparent on Jan 11, 2019 12:53:36 GMT -6
Really don’t think SSA is gaming the system. In fact, fewer games could hurt you. A loss or tie affects you more the fewer games you have. They also schedule the top teams in the state.
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Post by 3balz on Jan 11, 2019 12:54:59 GMT -6
Records by district
Leader Dist DIV W L T % Mandeville 4 I 47 35 13 57.32% Byrd, C.E. 1 I 59 45 16 56.73% St. Joseph's Academy 3 I 36 30 15 54.55% Acadiana 2 I 42 36 16 53.85% Dominican 6 I 49 43 20 53.26% Dutchtown 5 I 39 54 13 41.94%
Lakeshore 6 II 32 22 6 59.26% Live Oak 4 II 35 27 3 56.45% Destrehan 5 II 46 38 4 54.76% Neville 2 II 45 38 12 54.22% St. Thomas More 3 II 34 30 7 53.13% Parkway 1 II 33 49 15 40.24% Franklin, Ben 7 II 33 53 2 38.37%
Teurlings Catholic 3 III 51 43 7 54.26% Archbishop Hannan 6 III 23 22 4 51.11% University Lab 4 III 35 35 5 50.00% South Beauregard 2 III 41 48 9 46.07% Vandebilt Catholic 5 III 24 34 7 41.38% North DeSoto 1 III 19 30 7 38.78% Lusher Charter 7 III 12 21 3 36.36%
Houma Christian 6 IV 32 11 3 74.42% Newman, Isidore 8 IV 25 15 4 62.50% Christ Episcopal School 5 IV 26 17 4 60.47% Episcopal of Acadiana 3 IV 48 52 14 48.00% Sterlington 2 IV 33 37 12 47.14% Loyola Prep 1 IV 29 34 5 46.03% Acad. of Sacred Heart - N.O. 7 IV 14 21 6 40.00% Episcopal 4 IV 10 32 4 23.81%
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Post by unclebucky on Jan 11, 2019 14:22:00 GMT -6
One of the biggest problems with the PR is that the number of games a team plays is not standard. Not that many people beat SSA, but they generally play fewer games than other teams, so they have less total wins. You would currently get twice as many points for beating Houma Christian as SSA (Nothing against Houma Christian) Well, again, smart by SSA to game the system to help themselves. They also can afford to not play many games because their district is not that weak in terms of number of wins. Other teams have to overcome an awful district where they drop significantly. Balchinueroooo. SSA isnt gaming the system. New coach inherited schedule, played 2 OOS games, and lost a few weekends for showcase and National League play. Key matches coming up vs MCA Vandy and Dominican.
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Post by mortner on Jan 11, 2019 20:26:14 GMT -6
Uncle B to add to your point and further take away from the “gaming the system” argument.
SSA has always put the players health first, both mentally and physically. Overplaying and playing matches that have little meaning other than to boost a power ranking has never been a priority. However, quality matches and a team that is mentally fresh and ready for the playoffs has been a priority. Seems to be working.
I’d be willing to bet that ballotelli also shares fake news on Facebook.
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Post by sokkerxpert on Jan 12, 2019 4:56:11 GMT -6
Jim Acosta with CNN also reported that SSA has been gaming the system. We need a Special Counsel appointed immediately.
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Post by goalie1 on Jan 21, 2019 17:07:17 GMT -6
One of the biggest problems with the PR is that the number of games a team plays is not standard. Not that many people beat SSA, but they generally play fewer games than other teams, so they have less total wins. You would currently get twice as many points for beating Houma Christian as SSA (Nothing against Houma Christian) Well, again, smart by SSA to game the system to help themselves. They also can afford to not play many games because their district is not that weak in terms of number of wins. Other teams have to overcome an awful district where they drop significantly. . Gaming the system, ask Evangel why Byrd dumped them, leaving them a game shy to qualify for playoffs. Understand someone stepped up to cover it, Kudos to them. That my friends is gaming the system, cancel a game that you should win because you lose PR points.
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Post by balotellitoagueroooo on Jan 21, 2019 17:27:18 GMT -6
Well, again, smart by SSA to game the system to help themselves. They also can afford to not play many games because their district is not that weak in terms of number of wins. Other teams have to overcome an awful district where they drop significantly. . Gaming the system, ask Evangel why Byrd dumped them, leaving them a game shy to qualify for playoffs. Understand someone stepped up to cover it, Kudos to them. That my friends is gaming the system, cancel a game that you should win because you lose PR points. That's pretty sorry of Byrd, if true.
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Post by jcstewart on Jan 21, 2019 18:24:58 GMT -6
See Mandeville v Live Oak last season about this time of year.
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Post by dme1214 on Jan 21, 2019 18:31:47 GMT -6
See Mandeville v Live Oak last season about this time of year. That was the last few years, always ended up cancelled. FYI goalie1 evangel would still make the playoffs at 14 games just would drop to #24. They still need to make up their game with north caddo with rain the next 2 days who knows. Loyola is the team who stepped up.
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Post by time2retire on Jan 21, 2019 22:00:12 GMT -6
This was an issue last year as well
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Post by goalie1 on Jan 21, 2019 22:23:00 GMT -6
See Mandeville v Live Oak last season about this time of year. That was the last few years, always ended up cancelled. FYI goalie1 evangel would still make the playoffs at 14 games just would drop to #24. They still need to make up their game with north caddo with rain the next 2 days who knows. Loyola is the team who stepped up. I believe the first part, first hand. If I were Evangel I’d never agree to being used again
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Post by 3balz on Jan 22, 2019 10:33:25 GMT -6
My prediction for Div I
1 SSA 2 Byrd 3 Mandeville 4 West Monroe 5 Acadiana 6 Dominican 7 Northshore 8 Mt. Carmel 9 St Joes 10 Lafayette
7-8-9 all will be close and could easily switch spots. It mostly depends on how Mt. Carmel finishes. Baton Rouge could finish 10.
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Post by jcstewart on Jan 22, 2019 13:16:57 GMT -6
1 Byrd 2 SSA 3 Mandeville 4 Acadiana 5 West Monroe 6 Dominican 7 Northshore 8 Mt. Carmel 9 St. Joes 10 Baton Rouge 11 Lafayette
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Post by 3balz on Jan 22, 2019 13:37:51 GMT -6
I'll take a shot at D II but I am not as familiar with the teams. 1st 3 are locked. Current 4-5 could go either way but I would give an edge to Destrehan. Sam Houston vs Deridder will be big for Sam Houston. 8-9 Winner get a trip to STM buzzsaw.
1 St. Thomas More 2 Lakeshore 3 Neville 4 Destrehan 5 Central Lafourche 6 Ouachita Parish 7 Houston, Sam 8 Caddo Magnet 9 Franklin, Ben 10 Live Oak
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