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Post by upper90 on Jan 11, 2019 14:55:11 GMT -6
Here's a clip from one of our recent games.
Offside was called, disallowing the goal.
What do you think?
Sorry for the really grainy picture. Couldn't upload the direct video link, as it is private, and it's my video. Had to take the video on my phone then upload it to YouTube.
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Post by time2retire on Jan 11, 2019 15:01:54 GMT -6
I took a real quick look on my phone and tried to freeze frame it, grainy film and a small screen might not be the best of combos. At the free kick they are not. But the flick on resets the last touch by a member of the attacking team. Using the solid line as a guide it looks to me like they were off when the ball was flicked on to them. The shot and goal afterward had no bearing on the call, the AR calls it as it happens.
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Post by upper90 on Jan 11, 2019 15:11:51 GMT -6
I understand that the shot and goal afterward had no bearing on the call, but showing what could have been.
So if a player is not in an offside position prior to the kick, but after the kick he is, and a defender mistouhches (or in our case flicks it backwards), the player is then offside?
After the free kick, the ball was not touched by an attacking player until after it was touched by a defender.
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Post by cardsinhand on Jan 11, 2019 15:37:32 GMT -6
Don't have time to fully address this at this time but.... If the player in green (defender) deliberately played the ball (which on the grainy video it appears he did; by the act of jumping up to touch it), then there is NO offside offence. AR may give the info he has but the Referee needs to recognize the last touch was by a defender.
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Post by upper90 on Jan 11, 2019 15:45:00 GMT -6
Correct. That's my take on it as well.
At the end of the day, there's nothing anyone can do about it now. Just wanted to see if I was missing something.
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Post by time2retire on Jan 11, 2019 16:56:34 GMT -6
Ok I can see it better now. The defender is the one that flicks it. The attackers appear to be good when the ball is kicked. Does not look offside to me.
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Post by lsufan5454 on Jan 13, 2019 21:52:38 GMT -6
Under the offside interpretation that was put out a few years back, if a defensive player makes a "deliberate play on the ball" then any offensive player receiving the ball from that deliberate play is deemed to have NOT committed an offside infraction.
A deliberate play is left to the interpretation of the referee. The decision has to be made on if the play is deliberate or a deflection. Several thing are taken into account. Players distance from the kick and trajectory of the ball. Does the defensive player has time to make a deliberate play. In most cases the heading of the ball IS considered a deliberate play, along with any pass from a defender or a defender kicking the ball away from the foot of an offensive player.
For this clip it makes NO difference whether the offensive players were off side before or after the kick. The defenders deliberate heading of the ball took that infraction away. I hope this clears that up.
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Post by cardsinhand on Jan 14, 2019 7:29:45 GMT -6
For this clip it makes NO difference whether the offensive players were off side before or after the kick. The defenders deliberate heading of the ball took that infraction away. I hope this clears that up. You are correct. Reedited post. Trying to get too many things done. Jumping up to make contact with he ball makes the defenders action deliberate. |
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