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Post by laffysoccermom on Feb 28, 2019 10:44:23 GMT -6
I think they would actually get more attendance if they had the same schools playing on the same day. I could see a school potentially chartering s bus and maybe closing school if it was on the same day.
They are less likely to do this if it’s on two different days.
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Post by First Touch on Feb 28, 2019 11:36:52 GMT -6
Why isn't LSU soccer stadium given any thought? Very up scale venue for soccer, with lots of parking, practice fields, locker rooms. As well as excellent views of tiger stadium and Alex box as well as the softball complex. Guess they just don't want it there, prob doesn't even put bid in?
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Post by sweepe on Feb 28, 2019 12:13:43 GMT -6
Next year, lhsaa will set the schedule for the finals after the games are finalized and participants all known. You can bet there won’t be same school on same days anymore to maximize the gates and also the games that will draw the best gates will be placed in the best spots as this was passed recently and will allow soccer to be like the other championships where the placement of the title games is decided once the matchups are known. Seriously? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and if the LHSAA would rather inconvenience everyone to possibly make a few extra bucks that is completely disgraceful. I also doubt it will make as much money as the LHSAA might suspect; many people who might be willing to travel to see two games on one day will either only go one day or not go at all. Of course, give it a couple years and if you get your split the private schools will be playing at their own home fields, just as they will be in basketball, baseball, football, and softball. There's no way Jesuit vs. St. Paul's will ever be played at ULL if the private schools have their own playoffs. I agree. Everyone is praising the Lafayette site so why do they want to screw around with it. Trying to split the schools to increase gate is nonsense. Arbitrarily deciding who plays when and where is formula for failure. D1/D4 final conflicted with the main Mardi Gras parade in Covington this year that definitely had an effect on attendance. I guess these folks would be messed with too. www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/sports/high_schools/article_aa5c0dc2-3469-11e9-9a88-6bffcb412980.html
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Post by sweepe on Feb 28, 2019 12:28:51 GMT -6
From all the reports received, ULL has established itself as the prime venue for the championship games. Despite all the finalists being from the New Orleans Metro on the final day, I don't think they minded ending their championship odyssey in Lafayette. Grass field is a big plus plus the good food and Cajun hospitality. But please refrain from any disrespect of Tad Gormley. It is a unique facility. Under the auspices of the City Park Commission, the stadium and City Park itself have been established as a gem of the city and also Louisiana. The post Katrina improvements have been miraculous. Not many of the WPA era (1930s) still exist. Gormley situated among historic live oaks may not be the best for HS soccer championship games because of the turf and void seats but it has it's own place in Louisiana that ALL Louisianians should appreciate. I admit that I am biased by my being a former City Park jogger. Also attended the 88 Olympic trials field pass and Crescent City Classics and bass tourneys, golf, many soccer games, and Christmas Celebration in the Oaks, and King Tut and other NOMA exhibits etc. Gormley was ok for the Beatles too. Not just a good fit for the HS soccer championship. If you visit the park at thistime, there are 14,000 Tulips blooming along one of the lagoons. Not sure what the fascination is with Tad but I thought I was pretty clear saying that ULL is the right place to host SOCCER championships. It is a true soccer field. Tad is a football field that can be used for soccer. If that is disrespectful toward Tad that was not the intent.
Tad will always be special to me since my daughter's team won a State Championship there.
ULL will also be special since both sons won one together this year there.
I agree with you. Sorry if I was not clear in my post. I only know of two grass fields for HS soccer in the New Orleans area. Very nice fields but no seating capacity. Congrats on the success of your children. Besides their efforts it also takes parent support.
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Post by rlb2024 on Feb 28, 2019 12:36:46 GMT -6
Why isn't LSU soccer stadium given any thought? Very up scale venue for soccer, with lots of parking, practice fields, locker rooms. As well as excellent views of tiger stadium and Alex box as well as the softball complex. Guess they just don't want it there, prob doesn't even put bid in? LSU’s soccer stadium only seats around 2,200. Not enough for some of the bigger matches — St. Paul’s vs. Jesuit at Tad Gormley would routinely attract crowds in the 5,000 to 7,000 range. ULL’s facility seats around 5,000. Does the LHSAA have a minimum seating requirement for the championship games?
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Post by beauchenecoach on Feb 28, 2019 14:55:31 GMT -6
I think they would actually get more attendance if they had the same schools playing on the same day. I could see a school potentially chartering s bus and maybe closing school if it was on the same day. They are less likely to do this if it’s on two different days. Nope... not even close money wise.
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Post by time2retire on Feb 28, 2019 14:58:23 GMT -6
From my angle it's not much of a debate. ULL.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Feb 28, 2019 15:50:19 GMT -6
Next year, lhsaa will set the schedule for the finals after the games are finalized and participants all known. You can bet there won’t be same school on same days anymore to maximize the gates and also the games that will draw the best gates will be placed in the best spots as this was passed recently and will allow soccer to be like the other championships where the placement of the title games is decided once the matchups are known. Seriously? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and if the LHSAA would rather inconvenience everyone to possibly make a few extra bucks that is completely disgraceful. I also doubt it will make as much money as the LHSAA might suspect; many people who might be willing to travel to see two games on one day will either only go one day or not go at all. Of course, give it a couple years and if you get your split the private schools will be playing at their own home fields, just as they will be in basketball, baseball, football, and softball. There's no way Jesuit vs. St. Paul's will ever be played at ULL if the private schools have their own playoffs. Money is the reason for everything... including your reasoning that the private schools will host their own after split. That was approved anyway this year. And yes, that will make more money for each school. Just as schools not on same night for boys and girls will make money. It is not cheap to put on these events and there is a need to break even at least. Yes, the biggest playoff gate check I ever got as a coach was not the 2 state championships... neither of those are even in the top 5 of our gate checks for post season. All of the biggest ones came from road trips or home games in quarters or semifinals. So of course it makes sense to take control of championship games if you have that authority and the select schools were given that in January.
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Post by beauchenecoach on Feb 28, 2019 15:53:45 GMT -6
Why isn't LSU soccer stadium given any thought? Very up scale venue for soccer, with lots of parking, practice fields, locker rooms. As well as excellent views of tiger stadium and Alex box as well as the softball complex. Guess they just don't want it there, prob doesn't even put bid in? LSU’s soccer stadium only seats around 2,200. Not enough for some of the bigger matches — St. Paul’s vs. Jesuit at Tad Gormley would routinely attract crowds in the 5,000 to 7,000 range. ULL’s facility seats around 5,000. Does the LHSAA have a minimum seating requirement for the championship games? The actual bid for hosting doesn't come from a college. It is usually a sports organization or high school or visitors bureau. In Lafayette, Its LYSA/CSC with help from the Visitors Bureau. They rent UL Facilities. LSU wouldn't bid and from the prices I remember years ago when we did the All Star Games in summer time... the prices for UL are much, much cheaper. Also, UL has gone all in on facilities and helped everyway they can to make sure its done first class. Last year had a few growing pains. This year, the new coaching staff and everyone else made sure we had everything we needed to make this even extremely successful. CSC/LYSA did an amazing job as hosts. Hopefully they win the bid (in May I believe) for the next 2 seasons to continue at UL.
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Post by twinsrus on Feb 28, 2019 15:57:16 GMT -6
Is ULL Lafayette gonna host the 2020 LHSAA championships or has that not been determined?
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Post by kevin on Feb 28, 2019 16:27:48 GMT -6
Seriously? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and if the LHSAA would rather inconvenience everyone to possibly make a few extra bucks that is completely disgraceful. I also doubt it will make as much money as the LHSAA might suspect; many people who might be willing to travel to see two games on one day will either only go one day or not go at all. Of course, give it a couple years and if you get your split the private schools will be playing at their own home fields, just as they will be in basketball, baseball, football, and softball. There's no way Jesuit vs. St. Paul's will ever be played at ULL if the private schools have their own playoffs. Money is the reason for everything... including your reasoning that the private schools will host their own after split. That was approved anyway this year. And yes, that will make more money for each school. Just as schools not on same night for boys and girls will make money. It is not cheap to put on these events and there is a need to break even at least. I'm guessing a lot of principals will be getting angry phone calls from parents when a school like Lakeshore (to use an example of a non-select school that made both finals this year) has to drive 2+hours each way (or more if you run into Baton Rouge traffic) on two consecutive nights, or shell out money for a hotel room and stay overnight (or more than one night!) if they have kids on both teams. It's penny-wise and pound-foolish to look only at the money coming into the LHSAA's coffers and ignore all of the other money that would be wasted in such a situation. I'm well aware that these events are not cheap. But if a neutral site wants to put in a bid, they are making a business decision and taking a risk. If none of those neutral sites want to bid, then we'd just be playing games at one team's home field (and, as you pointed out, making more money that way).
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Post by laffysoccermom on Feb 28, 2019 16:48:28 GMT -6
It’s also a boon to UL because you have potential future students and their parents on campus. Not just soccer players but potential students. If I were the college- I’d be giving out little gifts to everyone with a high school ID.
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Post by stmparent on Feb 28, 2019 17:04:56 GMT -6
You already have a similar situation to splitting up a school to multiple nights. SSA played Friday night and St. Paul played Saturday. Not exactly the same, but brother/sister school.
I think it would make more sense to keep same schools on same night, but find a way to charge for both games if you must.
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Post by twinsrus on Mar 1, 2019 7:23:12 GMT -6
You already have a similar situation to splitting up a school to multiple nights. SSA played Friday night and St. Paul played Saturday. Not exactly the same, but brother/sister school. I think it would make more sense to keep same schools on same night, but find a way to charge for both games if you must. . I agree. As a parent of two Loyola girls I would have loved to see our boys and girls teams play on the same night. Our boys team played Wednesday and the girls team Friday night. It was hard on our fans to have to travel twice from Shreveport to see and root on both teams.
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Post by 9and6 on Mar 3, 2019 16:37:03 GMT -6
You already have a similar situation to splitting up a school to multiple nights. SSA played Friday night and St. Paul played Saturday. Not exactly the same, but brother/sister school. I think it would make more sense to keep same schools on same night, but find a way to charge for both games if you must. . I agree. As a parent of two Loyola girls I would have loved to see our boys and girls teams play on the same night. Our boys team played Wednesday and the girls team Friday night. It was hard on our fans to have to travel twice from Shreveport to see and root on both teams. Kudos to the Loyola fan base. Given the circumstances, I think you guys traveled very well in support of both teams.
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Post by quickdraw on Mar 4, 2019 10:23:08 GMT -6
Lafayette is called the “Hub City” for a reason. Leave all finals there. As for people complaining about travel, these days are numbered and your kids will remember the bus rides and comradery with their teammates so suck it up and do it for your kids. Enjoy these years while you can and don’t be a punk!
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