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Post by OuachitaCoach on Feb 5, 2020 11:00:41 GMT -6
Looks like we are the lucky party this year. Seems like there would be a better solution than potentially punishing the 9 seed, but in the end you have to beat whomever you play to move on!
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Post by retired_thibodaux_coach on Feb 5, 2020 11:15:33 GMT -6
Looks like we are the lucky party this year. Seems like there would be a better solution than potentially punishing the 9 seed, but in the end you have to beat whomever you play to move on! still sucks that your team has to get punished for another programs mistake in scheduling. maybe you could use this as some extra motivation for your team! lol but like you said though- you have to beat whomever you play. Best of luck to you and your team in the playoffs!
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Post by Waraz on Feb 5, 2020 11:42:17 GMT -6
Looks like we are the lucky party this year. Seems like there would be a better solution than potentially punishing the 9 seed, but in the end you have to beat whomever you play to move on! It is definitely unlucky. There will be a proposal that any team playing less than 15 games be left out the playoffs which I think is fair. There has to be a minimum.
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Post by dtbulldogs on Feb 5, 2020 16:25:49 GMT -6
Thank you for doing these all year, Waraz. Gave a lot of coaches a break from worrying about the weekly LHSAA report.
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Post by rightback on Feb 8, 2020 16:28:43 GMT -6
Hey Waraz every year there's debate on how good PR is (or isn't). Has anyone tried to keep the calc going through the playoffs to see how well it matches the final results?
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Post by uhscubs1 on Feb 8, 2020 16:47:52 GMT -6
Hey Waraz every year there's debate on how good PR is (or isn't). Has anyone tried to keep the calc going through the playoffs to see how well it matches the final results? The PR translates to seeding so it does the same thing.
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Post by rightback on Feb 8, 2020 17:32:13 GMT -6
Not sure what you mean there. I'm talking about the final results of the playoffs. PR would change as you go through the playoffs if someone kept the calculations going by including the results of the playoff games. For example #1 seed wins the championship about half the time. But the team that beats them gets a big boost in PR probably. It doesn't count for anything I realize just curious about how it all plays out in the end from the standpoint of PR accuracy debate.
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Post by straightdummin on Feb 8, 2020 17:38:11 GMT -6
Not sure what you mean there. I'm talking about the final results of the playoffs. PR would change as you go through the playoffs if someone kept the calculations going by including the results of the playoff games. For example #1 seed wins the championship about half the time. But the team that beats them gets a big boost in PR probably. It doesn't count for anything I realize just curious about how it all plays out in the end from the standpoint of PR accuracy debate. PR is just an average. Teams likely wouldn’t get that big of a bump
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Post by uhscubs1 on Feb 8, 2020 18:11:32 GMT -6
Not sure what you mean there. I'm talking about the final results of the playoffs. PR would change as you go through the playoffs if someone kept the calculations going by including the results of the playoff games. For example #1 seed wins the championship about half the time. But the team that beats them gets a big boost in PR probably. It doesn't count for anything I realize just curious about how it all plays out in the end from the standpoint of PR accuracy debate. Ahh, gotcha. Had that exact same thought but did not realize that was where you were going.
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Post by rightback on Feb 8, 2020 21:58:34 GMT -6
Not sure what you mean there. I'm talking about the final results of the playoffs. PR would change as you go through the playoffs if someone kept the calculations going by including the results of the playoff games. For example #1 seed wins the championship about half the time. But the team that beats them gets a big boost in PR probably. It doesn't count for anything I realize just curious about how it all plays out in the end from the standpoint of PR accuracy debate. PR is just an average. Teams likely wouldn’t get that big of a bump You'd think that but for example if Catholic were to beat DS in Div I SF it would be enough points in the PR math to put them above DS. Despite the averaging.
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Post by gallstar on Feb 8, 2020 22:31:45 GMT -6
PR is just an average. Teams likely wouldn’t get that big of a bump You'd think that but for example if Catholic were to beat DS in Div I SF it would be enough points in the PR math to put them above DS. Despite the averaging. Then Catholic could be District champs!
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Post by rightback on Feb 8, 2020 22:44:06 GMT -6
No that should be based on volunteer hours.
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Post by toughguy2004 on Feb 13, 2020 11:21:05 GMT -6
Where’s the updates
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Post by gallstar on Feb 13, 2020 13:41:55 GMT -6
This is all over until next year tough guy.
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Post by upper90 on Mar 3, 2020 12:47:38 GMT -6
Just for fun, I input all of the playoff matches:
Top 24 in each division:
DI: 1 St. Paul's 19.3261 2 Catholic - B.R. 17.8000 3 Denham Springs 17.4052 4 Jesuit 17.3400 5 Dutchtown 17.2546 6 Byrd, C.E. 16.1900 7 Lafayette 16.1875 8 Brother Martin 16.1685 9 St. Amant 15.7313 10 Mandeville 14.6528 11 Destrehan 14.5924 12 Cent. Lafourche 14.4914 13 Acadiana 14.1042 14 Baton Rouge 13.9519 15 Sulphur 13.5208 16 Captain Shreve 13.1510 17 Slidell 13.1420 18 King, Grace 13.1250 19 Zachary 13.0865 20 West Jefferson 12.9650 21 Central - B.R. 12.9408 22 West Monroe 12.8611 23 East Ascension 12.5365 24 Southside 12.3466
DII: 1 Holy Cross 15.4356 2 St. Thomas More 15.1630 3 Beau Chene 13.9698 4 Franklin, Ben 13.7000 5 Neville 13.0476 6 East Jefferson 12.7961 7 Bonnabel 12.4856 8 Ouachita Parish 11.9100 9 Cox, Helen 11.8750 10 Benton 11.8269 11 McKinley 11.6250 12 Caddo Magnet 11.3182 13 Riverdale 11.0694 14 Terrebonne 10.9435 15 South Terr. 10.0341 16 Belle Chasse 9.9034 17 Tara 9.8235 18 Parkway 9.7788 19 Lakeshore 9.3490 20 Westgate 9.3125 21 Live Oak 8.8864 22 Woodlawn - B.R. 8.4313 23 Haughton 8.1912 24 Archbishop Shaw 7.9934
DIII: 1 University Lab 17.6458 2 Vandebilt Cath. 17.2978 3 Lusher Charter 15.8365 4 White, E.D. 14.8558 5 Loyola Prep 14.8523 6 North Vermilion 14.3950 7 Parkview Bap. 14.2067 8 Bossier 13.9688 9 NOMMA 13.0938 10 Thib., David 11.9076 11 St. Louis 11.8884 12 Teurlings Cath. 11.8864 13 Arch. Hannan 11.5260 14 DeRidder 11.2356 15 St. Michael 10.8633 16 Sterlington 10.7188 17 Haynes Academy 9.9688 18 Lutcher 9.6500 19 Leesville 9.4773 20 Pearl River 9.2738 21 Cecilia 9.2563 22 Union Parish 9.0197 23 De La Salle 8.7667 24 Buckeye 8.6429
DIV: 1 Newman, Isidore 15.1359 2 Episcopal 15.0978 3 Catholic - N.I. 14.1250 4 Christ Episcopal School 12.7679 5 Episcopal of Acadiana 12.6316 6 Holy Savior Menard 11.6964 7 Vermilion Catholic 11.5774 8 Country Day 11.3684 9 Pope John Paul II 11.3508 10 Rapides 10.5192 11 St. Thomas Aquinas 10.4605 12 Northlake Christian 10.0952 13 Ascension Episcopal 10.0817 14 Opelousas Catholic 10.0707 15 Dunham 10.0114 16 St. Frederick 9.8355 17 Lafayette Christian 9.6000 18 Calvary Baptist 9.0078 19 Ouachita Christian 8.4219 20 Glenmora 8.4034 21 Covenant Christian 8.3571 22 Westminster Christian 8.0000 23 Ascension Christian 7.7237 24 Central Private 7.5667
Top 24 in all divisions: 1 St. Paul's 19.3261 2 Catholic - B.R. 17.8000 3 University Lab 17.6458 4 Denham Springs 17.4051 5 Jesuit 17.3400 6 Vandebilt Cath. 17.2977 7 Dutchtown 17.2546 8 Byrd, C.E. 16.1900 9 Lafayette 16.1875 10 Brother Martin 16.1685 11 Lusher Charter 15.8365 12 St. Amant 15.7312 13 Holy Cross 15.4356 14 St. Thomas More 15.1630 15 Newman, Isidore 15.1359 16 Episcopal 15.0978 17 White, E.D. 14.8558 18 Loyola Prep 14.8523 19 Mandeville 14.6528 20 Destrehan 14.5924 21 Central Laf. 14.4914 22 North Vermilion 14.3950 23 Parkview Bap. 14.2067 24 Catholic - N.I. 14.1250
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Post by chelsea007 on Mar 4, 2020 9:53:23 GMT -6
So under my "olayoff scenario," each division champ would have made the divisional play in series (the top 8 in each division).
The playoffs would have been based on the final power rating:
1. St. Paul vs. 4. Newman 2. Holy Cross vs. 3. Vandebilt
Winners play to be THE state champ.
History supports this design.
Just my .02.
Congrats to all of the playoff participants and champions.
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Post by pOkLE on Mar 4, 2020 13:49:56 GMT -6
So under my "olayoff scenario," each division champ would have made the divisional play in series (the top 8 in each division). The playoffs would have been based on the final power rating: 1. St. Paul vs. 4. Newman 2. Holy Cross vs. 3. Vandebilt Winners play to be THE state champ. History supports this design. Just my .02. Congrats to all of the playoff participants and champions. You mean UHigh, right, not Vandy? And UHigh would be the #2 seed in this scenario (at least based on PR).
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Post by sissoko on Mar 4, 2020 13:55:44 GMT -6
So under my "olayoff scenario," each division champ would have made the divisional play in series (the top 8 in each division). The playoffs would have been based on the final power rating: 1. St. Paul vs. 4. Newman 2. Holy Cross vs. 3. Vandebilt Winners play to be THE state champ. History supports this design. Just my .02. Congrats to all of the playoff participants and champions. Except for that recent history when Jesuit won as a 15 seed a couple years ago. An outlier, sure, but history nonetheless.
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