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Post by uhscubs1 on Jan 7, 2020 9:03:06 GMT -6
Because Vandebilt won a game yesterday against a team with not many wins, so they actually lost points. If Vandy continues to win they will end with the #1 seed. Calm down and go back to Algebra. Actually, Vandy gained points for their win but the points gained were less than their average so their average went down.
Strike 1 Waraz!
davis do you understand how PR works?
Actually that is an over simplification of it. Also evidently none of the teams Vandy has played already earned a win or tie since the last PR.
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Post by Waraz on Jan 7, 2020 9:47:38 GMT -6
Because Vandebilt won a game yesterday against a team with not many wins, so they actually lost points. If Vandy continues to win they will end with the #1 seed. Calm down and go back to Algebra. Actually, Vandy gained points for their win but the points gained were less than their average so their average went down.
Strike 1 Waraz!
davis do you understand how PR works?
That is correct. You never actually lose points. You get points for every game, just depends if that # is higher or lower than your current average. I’m an idiot.
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Post by pOkLE on Jan 7, 2020 16:33:22 GMT -6
I should have added NOMMA as well. I think they are continuing to improve and will probably have at least a say in who wins it this year.
Also, the poster formerly known as PoKLe sorry I did not see you changed your username or you were hacked. It seemed appropriate at this time, after 10 years in the laprep game, to adopt a new moniker. I probably would have switched it right back but a certain somebody started PMing me to change it. As a current toughguy, I couldn’t bow to the pressure (not yet at least).
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Post by soccerstarlover14 on Jan 7, 2020 17:18:53 GMT -6
I should have added NOMMA as well. I think they are continuing to improve and will probably have at least a say in who wins it this year.
Also, the poster formerly known as PoKLe sorry I did not see you changed your username or you were hacked. It seemed appropriate at this time, after 10 years in the laprep game, to adopt a new moniker. I probably would have switched it right back but a certain somebody started PMing me to change it. As a current toughguy, I couldn’t bow to the pressure (not yet at least). after 10 years and this is what you decide to change it to? solid name. nice.
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Post by Waraz on Jan 8, 2020 1:03:50 GMT -6
Wednesday update is out. Sorry, some results were not posted to the LHSAA website.
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Post by gallstar on Jan 8, 2020 6:54:01 GMT -6
Wednesday update is out. Sorry, some results were not posted to the LHSAA website. Freeze the power rankings today. We have almost the perfect scenario in Division I. Public schools in the bottom half of the bracket with private schools at the top. I think it should be this way every year with the two champs meeting in the finals.
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Post by CoachJack on Jan 8, 2020 8:03:44 GMT -6
Wednesday update is out. Sorry, some results were not posted to the LHSAA website. Freeze the power rankings today. We have almost the perfect scenario in Division I. Public schools in the bottom half of the bracket with private schools at the top. I think it should be this way every year with the two champs meeting in the finals. Oh how would that be perfect. Holy F word. Just look at who Mandeville could play at home.... hahaha. Oh how the drama would be for that game.
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Post by Skippers on Jan 8, 2020 8:04:46 GMT -6
Freeze the power rankings today. We have almost the perfect scenario in Division I. Public schools in the bottom half of the bracket with private schools at the top. I think it should be this way every year with the two champs meeting in the finals. Oh how would that be perfect. Holy F word. Just look at who Mandeville could play at home.... hahaha. Oh how the drama would be for that game. too bad it's going to change 300+ more times....
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Post by Wickers on Jan 8, 2020 8:17:38 GMT -6
If the brackets ended right now I think St Louis would take Bossier in the Bi Regional. Bossier does not have a solid win yet and lost to Loyola who was there toughest game.
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Post by toughguy2004 on Jan 8, 2020 8:31:35 GMT -6
If the brackets ended right now I think St Louis would take Bossier in the Bi Regional. Bossier does not have a solid win yet and lost to Loyola who was there toughest game. 🤔
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Post by deltachartersoccer on Jan 8, 2020 8:38:57 GMT -6
I noticed that in D4, Port Allen has only the 2 games they've already played on their schedule not even the rest of their district games. Does anyone know what happens if a team doesn't even play its district games and also doesn't make the 15 games? Not that a score of 5.5 is likely to get you in but was wondering what happens in that situation. They say you "have" to play your district games but what are the actual consequences if you don't?
Surely a team couldn't just schedule 1 game against a 4 win team, win it and then refuse/never schedule to play their district games and get in at the 24 seed. Not saying that's what Port Allen is doing by any means, I'm just speaking hypothetically.
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Post by pOkLE on Jan 8, 2020 8:42:24 GMT -6
I noticed that in D4, Port Allen has only the 2 games they've already played on their schedule not even the rest of their district games. Does anyone know what happens if a team doesn't even play its district games and also doesn't make the 15 games? Not that a score of 5.5 is likely to get you in but was wondering what happens in that situation. They say you "have" to play your district games but what are the actual consequences if you don't? Surely a team couldn't just schedule 1 game against a 4 win team, win it and then refuse/never schedule to play their district games and get in at the 24 seed. Not saying that's what Port Allen is doing by any means, I'm just speaking hypothetically. Unless something changed from last season, your district rules control whether you have to play district games. LHSAA rules don't require 15 games -- rules just require 15 games to maintain your PR seed. If you play less than 15 but have a PR that qualifies you for playoffs, you're in, you just go to the bottom of the pack (#24).
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Post by soccerstarlover14 on Jan 8, 2020 8:46:10 GMT -6
I noticed that in D4, Port Allen has only the 2 games they've already played on their schedule not even the rest of their district games. Does anyone know what happens if a team doesn't even play its district games and also doesn't make the 15 games? Not that a score of 5.5 is likely to get you in but was wondering what happens in that situation. They say you "have" to play your district games but what are the actual consequences if you don't? Surely a team couldn't just schedule 1 game against a 4 win team, win it and then refuse/never schedule to play their district games and get in at the 24 seed. Not saying that's what Port Allen is doing by any means, I'm just speaking hypothetically. Unless something changed from last season, your district rules control whether you have to play district games. LHSAA rules don't require 15 games -- rules just require 15 games to maintain your PR seed. If you play less than 15 put have a PR that qualifies you for playoffs, you're in, you just go to the bottom of the pack (#24). hey he changed his name back
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Post by deltachartersoccer on Jan 8, 2020 8:58:38 GMT -6
I noticed that in D4, Port Allen has only the 2 games they've already played on their schedule not even the rest of their district games. Does anyone know what happens if a team doesn't even play its district games and also doesn't make the 15 games? Not that a score of 5.5 is likely to get you in but was wondering what happens in that situation. They say you "have" to play your district games but what are the actual consequences if you don't? Surely a team couldn't just schedule 1 game against a 4 win team, win it and then refuse/never schedule to play their district games and get in at the 24 seed. Not saying that's what Port Allen is doing by any means, I'm just speaking hypothetically. Unless something changed from last season, your district rules control whether you have to play district games. LHSAA rules don't require 15 games -- rules just require 15 games to maintain your PR seed. If you play less than 15 put have a PR that qualifies you for playoffs, you're in, you just go to the bottom of the pack (#24). Wow! That's kind of messed up. If i'm understanding you correctly, If a team is in a district where there is no rule saying you have to play your district games that team could schedule only 1 game and make the playoffs at #24 and take the spot of a team who has been fighting through their schedule to get in. I don't understand why not force all teams to play their district games or at least enforce a minimum amount of games to qualify for playoffs at all. I would really hate to see my guys not get a playoff game because some team took the 24 spot having only played 1 game.
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Post by coachray40 on Jan 8, 2020 10:01:13 GMT -6
There are rule change proposals in the mix to fix this, but probably wont be til next season
Personally, I dont think Port Allen will a) make it, or B) opt to participate in the post season.
They will slide down out of the top 24 as we progress through January
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Post by pOkLE on Jan 8, 2020 10:03:32 GMT -6
Unless something changed from last season, your district rules control whether you have to play district games. LHSAA rules don't require 15 games -- rules just require 15 games to maintain your PR seed. If you play less than 15 put have a PR that qualifies you for playoffs, you're in, you just go to the bottom of the pack (#24). Wow! That's kind of messed up. If i'm understanding you correctly, If a team is in a district where there is no rule saying you have to play your district games that team could schedule only 1 game and make the playoffs at #24 and take the spot of a team who has been fighting through their schedule to get in. I don't understand why not force all teams to play their district games or at least enforce a minimum amount of games to qualify for playoffs at all. I would really hate to see my guys not get a playoff game because some team took the 24 spot having only played 1 game. I'm hopeful that team would be one that would opt not to play in the playoffs. As you (and Ray) said, most teams aren't playing 1 game attempting to get in the playoffs. As for why not require it, simply put: LHSAA says it's not up to it to decide how districts govern their district play and playoff qualification; it only enforces the rules passed by its members (the schools as represented by principals). Previous LHSAA interpretation of this rule (years ago) had all of us scrambling to play our "required" district games (you know, end of season crappy weather causing mass cancellations and reschedules where district games took priority over others). Then, new soccer admin came in and by the plain language in the rules said 15 games not required -- it could have been that those that proposed rule meant to make it a requirement, but language only addressed requiring 15 games to keep PR seed.
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Post by deltachartersoccer on Jan 8, 2020 10:41:14 GMT -6
There are rule change proposals in the mix to fix this, but probably wont be til next season Personally, I dont think Port Allen will a) make it, or B) opt to participate in the post season. They will slide down out of the top 24 as we progress through January I agree I don't think they will either. I'm just thinking this could be potentially bad if a team played 1 game vs a team that won 4 games and they then chose to participate in the post season. If that happened i definitely think there would be a lot of us on here complaining about it. It would be very unfair to every team beneath them. Just seems like this is something that should be fixed by forcing a minimum game. It doesn't have to be 15 it can be lower but something that gives some substance to a teams schedule to justify them earning a spot in the post season. I'm glad to hear there are proposals in the works to fix this.
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Post by toughguy2004 on Jan 8, 2020 10:53:25 GMT -6
There are rule change proposals in the mix to fix this, but probably wont be til next season Personally, I dont think Port Allen will a) make it, or B) opt to participate in the post season. They will slide down out of the top 24 as we progress through January I agree I don't think they will either. I'm just thinking this could be potentially bad if a team played 1 game vs a team that won 4 games and they then chose to participate in the post season. If that happened i definitely think there would be a lot of us on here complaining about it. It would be very unfair to every team beneath them. Just seems like this is something that should be fixed by forcing a minimum game. It doesn't have to be 15 it can be lower but something that gives some substance to a teams schedule to justify them earning a spot in the post season. I'm glad to hear there are proposals in the works to fix this. This is absurd
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Post by pOkLE on Jan 8, 2020 11:10:08 GMT -6
There are rule change proposals in the mix to fix this, but probably wont be til next season Personally, I dont think Port Allen will a) make it, or B) opt to participate in the post season. They will slide down out of the top 24 as we progress through January I agree I don't think they will either. I'm just thinking this could be potentially bad if a team played 1 game vs a team that won 4 games and they then chose to participate in the post season. If that happened i definitely think there would be a lot of us on here complaining about it. It would be very unfair to every team beneath them. Just seems like this is something that should be fixed by forcing a minimum game. It doesn't have to be 15 it can be lower but something that gives some substance to a teams schedule to justify them earning a spot in the post season. I'm glad to hear there are proposals in the works to fix this. Another coach texted me to say that Port Allen is supposed to only be playing a JV schedule. So it's likely a non-issue. Just FYI.
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Post by uhscubs1 on Jan 8, 2020 11:43:12 GMT -6
Port Allen has only played Brighton (twice) and won both. No disrespect to Brighton but I do not see any guaranteed wins left on their schedule and they only have 1 tie and no wins.
I would expect Country Day and DC to both pass them in PR if not others.
Not being familiar with D 4 not sure what the historical low PR mark is for a team to get into the playoffs so not sure if a 6.5 or 7 would do it say if Brighton were to beat a team left on their schedule or tie some teams.
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