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Post by dme1214 on Feb 12, 2020 9:55:33 GMT -6
So based on this result you are going to pull a muscle patting yourself on the back?? Aren’t you the one that said he’d take the possession winner over the actual winner in that same conversation?? I think so. Im absolutely saying the outcome favors my opinion. I don’t need to pat myself on the back, because you just did it for me. Like I stated in a previous post, I’ll take the team with dominant TOP. In this case the possession winner WAS the game winner. Do I need to find a Premiere League game stats to post for you to understand? I think so... I think you are missing the point. Of course in a game where the final score is 8-0 will the winning team have more possession, it’s the games that go 2-1 or 1-0 that possession isn’t the indicator of the victor, sometimes they will and sometimes they won’t. And for you to use this result as proof of your opinion being fact is frankly disrespectful of the work the Shreve team has put in as a whole and the strides they have made this year. I’ll be routing for Byrd tonight, for the love of all the club teammates we have at that high school, and can promise you that, regardless of the end result, there will not be talk of “who possessed the ball more” vs “who won” out of respect for those kids. And this will apply to any future Byrd games this year.
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Post by gbennett on Feb 12, 2020 10:36:44 GMT -6
When you practice and play on a ping pong table the throw ins are a huge advantage. So much for the beauty of the game. I bet the baseball field has 60ft bases and 250ft fences in the power alleys. Basketball court 9ft rims? Jeez! You do realized the field was the same dimensions for both teams, right? I'm sure Capt. Shreve was able to make some epic throw-ins, too. This sort of field is what happens when you build a football stadium in the 80s. Soccer wasn't really even a thought back then.
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Post by fctsoccer on Feb 12, 2020 11:06:55 GMT -6
When you practice and play on a ping pong table the throw ins are a huge advantage. So much for the beauty of the game. I bet the baseball field has 60ft bases and 250ft fences in the power alleys. Basketball court 9ft rims? Jeez! You do realized the field was the same dimensions for both teams, right? I'm sure Capt. Shreve was able to make some epic throw-ins, too. This sort of field is what happens when you build a football stadium in the 80s. Soccer wasn't really even a thought back then. Not asserting any opinions about the field dimensions, etc. Just enjoying the banter. But I did want to reply that soccer was certainly more than “a thought” in the 1980s. Indeed, NHS’s record was something like 84 wins, 0 losses, and 1 tie between 1986-1990. 4 straight state championships. I am married to a proud member of that record-setting NHS squad. ⚽️😊
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Post by broalie1919 on Feb 12, 2020 11:20:08 GMT -6
Im absolutely saying the outcome favors my opinion. I don’t need to pat myself on the back, because you just did it for me. Like I stated in a previous post, I’ll take the team with dominant TOP. In this case the possession winner WAS the game winner. Do I need to find a Premiere League game stats to post for you to understand? I think so... I think you are missing the point. Of course in a game where the final score is 8-0 will the winning team have more possession, it’s the games that go 2-1 or 1-0 that possession isn’t the indicator of the victor, sometimes they will and sometimes they won’t. And for you to use this result as proof of your opinion being fact is frankly disrespectful of the work the Shreve team has put in as a whole and the strides they have made this year. I’ll be routing for Byrd tonight, for the love of all the club teammates we have at that high school, and can promise you that, regardless of the end result, there will not be talk of “who possessed the ball more” vs “who won” out of respect for those kids. And this will apply to any future Byrd games this year. Wow, you are very sensitive this morning. I’m very clear on the point. I think it’s you that’s missing it. I said TOP was important. I said TOP created scoring opportunities. I said this game was indicative of those points. How am I wrong? And as for being disrespectful? How in the world do you get that? I’m not a disrespectful person at all, and KUDOS to Shreve on their season. You just don’t like the point I made, so you are trying to paint me as a bad guy. I could have picked several games to back up my point. Byrd vs Magnet is another example. TOP was controlled by one team, and the final score reflected it.
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 12, 2020 11:34:30 GMT -6
I think you are missing the point. Of course in a game where the final score is 8-0 will the winning team have more possession, it’s the games that go 2-1 or 1-0 that possession isn’t the indicator of the victor, sometimes they will and sometimes they won’t. And for you to use this result as proof of your opinion being fact is frankly disrespectful of the work the Shreve team has put in as a whole and the strides they have made this year. I’ll be routing for Byrd tonight, for the love of all the club teammates we have at that high school, and can promise you that, regardless of the end result, there will not be talk of “who possessed the ball more” vs “who won” out of respect for those kids. And this will apply to any future Byrd games this year. Wow, you are very sensitive this morning. I’m very clear on the point. I think it’s you that’s missing it. I said TOP was important. I said TOP created scoring opportunities. I said this game was indicative of those points. How am I wrong? And as for being disrespectful? How in the world do you get that? I’m not a disrespectful person at all, and KUDOS to Shreve on their season. You just don’t like the point I made, so you are trying to paint me as a bad guy. I could have picked several games to back up my point. Byrd vs Magnet is another example. TOP was controlled by one team, and the final score reflected it. You still are referring to games with wide margins of victory, which don’t prove your point at all. Try researching evenly matched teams games, close games, vs each other. You’ll find the TOP will vary between the winner and the loser of those games. Which was the point made when this conversation started back in late Jan. As far as respect goes. If you can’t figure out the your “ I told you so” post (based on an 8-0 game) the same night that Shreve got beat was disrespectful then you’ve got some serious soul searching to do.
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Post by broalie1919 on Feb 12, 2020 12:14:32 GMT -6
Wow, you are very sensitive this morning. I’m very clear on the point. I think it’s you that’s missing it. I said TOP was important. I said TOP created scoring opportunities. I said this game was indicative of those points. How am I wrong? And as for being disrespectful? How in the world do you get that? I’m not a disrespectful person at all, and KUDOS to Shreve on their season. You just don’t like the point I made, so you are trying to paint me as a bad guy. I could have picked several games to back up my point. Byrd vs Magnet is another example. TOP was controlled by one team, and the final score reflected it. You still are referring to games with wide margins of victory, which don’t prove your point at all. Try researching evenly matched teams games, close games, vs each other. You’ll find the TOP will vary between the winner and the loser of those games. Which was the point made when this conversation started back in late Jan. As far as respect goes. If you can’t figure out the your “ I told you so” post (based on an 8-0 game) the same night that Shreve got beat was disrespectful then you’ve got some serious soul searching to do. Ya know, you are right. Anyone that thinks TOP is important should really take a step back, take a hard look in the mirror, and get your life together. I’m going to start working on ME right now. The Ann’s for the advice.
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 12, 2020 12:22:15 GMT -6
You still are referring to games with wide margins of victory, which don’t prove your point at all. Try researching evenly matched teams games, close games, vs each other. You’ll find the TOP will vary between the winner and the loser of those games. Which was the point made when this conversation started back in late Jan. As far as respect goes. If you can’t figure out the your “ I told you so” post (based on an 8-0 game) the same night that Shreve got beat was disrespectful then you’ve got some serious soul searching to do. Ya know, you are right. Anyone that thinks TOP is important should really take a step back, take a hard look in the mirror, and get your life together. I’m going to start working on ME right now. The Ann’s for the advice. You read what you want to read, not what is written, defend your “I told you so post” or apologize. Everyone else sees it clear as day.
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Post by broalie1919 on Feb 12, 2020 12:44:23 GMT -6
Ya know, you are right. Anyone that thinks TOP is important should really take a step back, take a hard look in the mirror, and get your life together. I’m going to start working on ME right now. The Ann’s for the advice. You read what you want to read, not what is written, defend your “I told you so post” or apologize. Everyone else sees it clear as day. Do they?? And now I’m confused. I need to read what was written? Isn’t that what we are doing? Reading and writing about TOP? I’m just sorry more people can’t read these posts!
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 12, 2020 12:59:23 GMT -6
You read what you want to read, not what is written, defend your “I told you so post” or apologize. Everyone else sees it clear as day. Do they?? And now I’m confused. I need to read what was written? Isn’t that what we are doing? Reading and writing about TOP? I’m just sorry more people can’t read these posts! Let’s take this step by step so it’s clear. The original discussion, back in late Jan, was whether TOP was the most important factor in determining the winner. You said yes, others said it isn’t always the case, and had some of his own data to back up his claim, I pointed out Man U did it successfully for over a year in premier league and champions league. Fine agree to disagree it ended. Fast forward to last night. You decided it isn’t over and immediately after the final was posted you went the “I told you so route” with the 8-0 final as your proof (later added a 5-1 win as further proof) we all know a 8-0 or 5-1 result will Have the winner also with TOP advantage. So your proof doesn’t really help your case, but again agree to disagree. Now we are down to the respect part of the discussion. What everyone who reads this thread can see is that you, despite your claim to the contrary, showed a lot of disrespect to the shreve program by your “I told you so post” before the refs got to their cars. I simply asked you to defend this post as not being disrespectful or to apologize for it. And I’ll agree, I wish everyone could read this, nothing I have said in this thread would I feel the need to hide from anyone.
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Post by NWLASoccerMom on Feb 12, 2020 13:16:50 GMT -6
I believe the whole discussion revolves around whether TOP usually determines the game winner or not, and in my opinion it does. Didn't see any disrespect towards the Shreve program. They had a good season and lost to the #1 team ranked team. Pointing out that they didn't dominate TOP doesn't take a brain surgeon....just facts.
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Post by broalie1919 on Feb 12, 2020 13:22:30 GMT -6
Do they?? And now I’m confused. I need to read what was written? Isn’t that what we are doing? Reading and writing about TOP? I’m just sorry more people can’t read these posts! Let’s take this step by step so it’s clear. The original discussion, back in late Jan, was whether TOP was the most important factor in determining the winner. You said yes, others said it isn’t always the case, and had some of his own data to back up his claim, I pointed out Man U did it successfully for over a year in premier league and champions league. Fine agree to disagree it ended. Fast forward to last night. You decided it isn’t over and immediately after the final was posted you went the “I told you so route” with the 8-0 final as your proof (later added a 5-1 win as further proof) we all know a 8-0 or 5-1 result will Have the winner also with TOP advantage. So your proof doesn’t really help your case, but again agree to disagree. Now we are down to the respect part of the discussion. What everyone who reads this thread can see is that you, despite your claim to the contrary, showed a lot of disrespect to the shreve program by your “I told you so post” before the refs got to their cars. I simply asked you to defend this post as not being disrespectful or to apologize for it. And I’ll agree, I wish everyone could read this, nothing I have said in this thread would I feel the need to hide from anyone. Everyone huh? Good call.
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Post by gbennett on Feb 12, 2020 13:30:38 GMT -6
You do realized the field was the same dimensions for both teams, right? I'm sure Capt. Shreve was able to make some epic throw-ins, too. This sort of field is what happens when you build a football stadium in the 80s. Soccer wasn't really even a thought back then. Not asserting any opinions about the field dimensions, etc. Just enjoying the banter. But I did want to reply that soccer was certainly more than “a thought” in the 1980s. Indeed, NHS’s record was something like 84 wins, 0 losses, and 1 tie between 1986-1990. 4 straight state championships. I am married to a proud member of that record-setting NHS squad. ⚽️😊 Oh, soccer at NHS kicked butt during that time. I, too, am married to one of those amazing ladies (C/O '90). That said, how many state championships did NHS host at their home field during that run (answer: 1). Soccer was successful in spite of a lack of support.
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 12, 2020 13:33:18 GMT -6
I believe the whole discussion revolves around whether TOP usually determines the game winner or not, and in my opinion it does. Didn't see any disrespect towards the Shreve program. They had a good season and lost to the #1 team ranked team. Pointing out that they didn't dominate TOP doesn't take a brain surgeon....just facts. So it’s ok to pull out an “I told you so” type post right there that night? That’s not disrespectful? Had the post been at 745 saying central LaFouche had more possession and beat Barbe 3-1. Fine, fair game to use as an example etc etc, but kicking a team while they are in the moment, not so much. (FYI, I have no clue who possessed the ball more in the CL/Barbe game)
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Post by broalie1919 on Feb 12, 2020 13:46:06 GMT -6
I believe the whole discussion revolves around whether TOP usually determines the game winner or not, and in my opinion it does. Didn't see any disrespect towards the Shreve program. They had a good season and lost to the #1 team ranked team. Pointing out that they didn't dominate TOP doesn't take a brain surgeon....just facts. So it’s ok to pull out an “I told you so” type post right there that night? That’s not disrespectful? Had the post been at 745 saying central LaFouche had more possession and beat Barbe 3-1. Fine, fair game to use as an example etc etc, but kicking a team while they are in the moment, not so much. (FYI, I have no clue who possessed the ball more in the CL/Barbe game) Just because you WANT the post to be deemed disrespectful, doesn’t make it so. I guess you’ll just have to argue with every single person who disagrees with you. Guess I need to ask you when/who/why before I post anything, just to make sure you approve.
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Post by NWLASoccerMom on Feb 12, 2020 14:11:25 GMT -6
So it’s ok to pull out an “I told you so” type post right there that night? That’s not disrespectful? Had the post been at 745 saying central LaFouche had more possession and beat Barbe 3-1. Fine, fair game to use as an example etc etc, but kicking a team while they are in the moment, not so much. (FYI, I have no clue who possessed the ball more in the CL/Barbe game) Just because you WANT the post to be deemed disrespectful, doesn’t make it so. I guess you’ll just have to argue with every single person who disagrees with you. Guess I need to ask you when/who/why before I post anything, just to make sure you approve. Just don't respond until 7:45 next time, then it's not disrespectful.
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 12, 2020 14:52:18 GMT -6
Just because you WANT the post to be deemed disrespectful, doesn’t make it so. I guess you’ll just have to argue with every single person who disagrees with you. Guess I need to ask you when/who/why before I post anything, just to make sure you approve. Just don't respond until 7:45 next time, then it's not disrespectful. I believe the reference was to it being a different game vs their game, and shreve game was at 7 and didn’t get over till 845
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Post by ulysses on Feb 12, 2020 15:24:13 GMT -6
Get over it Deems. I’m seriously considering raising Uncle Bucky from the grave to finish that game you two never completed.
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Post by wewuzrobbed on Feb 12, 2020 15:47:53 GMT -6
Get over it Deems. I’m seriously considering raising Uncle Bucky from the grave to finish that game you two never completed.
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