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Post by Rabid Monkey on Feb 15, 2020 20:35:26 GMT -6
Whether you like it or not... it’s the way it is in the sports of soccer, basketball, baseball and softball. It is to prevent power rating manipulations. Yes you can play less games and get higher PR. 15 is the same number for all these sports. And there is overwhelming support for changing this rule to state that teams that don’t meet the minimum will not be able to make the playoffs at all. This is what is talked about during advisory meetings and coaches association meetings with the Lhsaa representatives in attendance. It is very EASY to get 15 games. Especially in a metro area. While I do understand there are issues with certain schools... these school should decided if they want to participate in playoffs or just want to provide a team to play on until they are in a position to compete under the power rating requirements to play in the state playoffs. It may not be what your ultimate goal is and this you can play as little amount of games as you see fit. But if you want to qualify for the tournament, then you must meet the requirements. I do understand there are some issues with McKinley and their issues from Last season that affected their scheduling. The rules as they are now allow them in the playoffs but seeded at the bottom. It is also obvious that this McKinley team can go with the big boys so they are a different example from the usual teams that are in this situation. This is an outlying case from what it is. But I do think that they could have easily played more games... 15 isn’t a lot. But again, under our rules we play by, they are on the tournament and seeded at the bottom of the bracket. It is what it is and everyone has to beat 4 or 5 teams to win the title. But just updating the way this rule is headed... it isn’t going away. It’s going the other direction, no playoffs at all without minimum games played. Whether the minimum is 15 or it is 12 or 14... that is the question. I would like to know how many people on this advisory meeting, coaches association, and the people who will be making the final decision on this rule are from or represent low income schools. Without someone there to stand up for or advocate for the low income schools, rules like these will continue to be passed that will only hurt these schools or programs without regard, and have no affect on wealthy or private schools. If the goal is to grow and expand soccer than we must consider either scrapping the rule altogether or seriously decreasing the requirement or else it'll be more low income, not established schools that will be the hurt the most I don’t think the minimum game rule says low income schools can’t have a program - just that they can’t participate in playoffs Seems fair
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Post by woodlawnsoccer on Feb 15, 2020 20:45:57 GMT -6
I would like to know how many people on this advisory meeting, coaches association, and the people who will be making the final decision on this rule are from or represent low income schools. Without someone there to stand up for or advocate for the low income schools, rules like these will continue to be passed that will only hurt these schools or programs without regard, and have no affect on wealthy or private schools. If the goal is to grow and expand soccer than we must consider either scrapping the rule altogether or seriously decreasing the requirement or else it'll be more low income, not established schools that will be the hurt the most I don’t think the minimum game rule says low income schools can’t have a program - just that they can’t participate in playoffs Seems fair I know it's not saying they cant technically play but when a team has a new coach every year, and no money resources or support from the school, and a new coach comes in behind the 8 ballevery year with no schedule set a rule saying you need x amount of games to qualify is pretty much telling that program you wont be in the playoffs. I'm saying a rule like this will seriously hurt low income schools that are not established in the way It's not fair
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Post by Rabid Monkey on Feb 15, 2020 20:51:45 GMT -6
Just look at the rankings now.... There are teams that don’t make the playoffs in all 4 divisions Some that may never make the playoffs but they play every year
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Post by beauchenecoach on Feb 15, 2020 20:54:39 GMT -6
Whether you like it or not... it’s the way it is in the sports of soccer, basketball, baseball and softball. It is to prevent power rating manipulations. Yes you can play less games and get higher PR. 15 is the same number for all these sports. And there is overwhelming support for changing this rule to state that teams that don’t meet the minimum will not be able to make the playoffs at all. This is what is talked about during advisory meetings and coaches association meetings with the Lhsaa representatives in attendance. It is very EASY to get 15 games. Especially in a metro area. While I do understand there are issues with certain schools... these school should decided if they want to participate in playoffs or just want to provide a team to play on until they are in a position to compete under the power rating requirements to play in the state playoffs. It may not be what your ultimate goal is and this you can play as little amount of games as you see fit. But if you want to qualify for the tournament, then you must meet the requirements. I do understand there are some issues with McKinley and their issues from Last season that affected their scheduling. The rules as they are now allow them in the playoffs but seeded at the bottom. It is also obvious that this McKinley team can go with the big boys so they are a different example from the usual teams that are in this situation. This is an outlying case from what it is. But I do think that they could have easily played more games... 15 isn’t a lot. But again, under our rules we play by, they are on the tournament and seeded at the bottom of the bracket. It is what it is and everyone has to beat 4 or 5 teams to win the title. But just updating the way this rule is headed... it isn’t going away. It’s going the other direction, no playoffs at all without minimum games played. Whether the minimum is 15 or it is 12 or 14... that is the question. I would like to know how many people on this advisory meeting, coaches association, and the people who will be making the final decision on this rule are from or represent low income schools. Without someone there to stand up for or advocate for the low income schools, rules like these will continue to be passed that will only hurt these schools or programs without regard, and have no affect on wealthy or private schools. If the goal is to grow and expand soccer than we must consider either scrapping the rule altogether or seriously decreasing the requirement or else it'll be more low income, not established schools that will be the hurt the most The sport of high school soccer in Louisiana is growing faster than other sport in the state. All coaches are invited to the advisory meetings annually. But before I continue... Define low income school? Have you seen Beau Chene? St Landry parish is one of the poorest income areas and school systems in the state. And we are further away from a metro area than The 2 schools you just described. Income has nothing to do with scheduling when you are close enough to schools. I take time away from my family and kids to coach these boys (training daily and games 2 times a week and 3-4 tournaments a year) and follow the requirements and give them the best chance they can have to succeed. So should every other team with the same goals and aspirations of my team. We are not select. Some think we are a private school because we a decent at soccer. We are not even an upper class public school. We are from a poor area and even last night, even Lakeshore joked how we were out in the country. We are... We are a country area rural school. We play near 30 every year. Why can’t a metro area team play that or at least 15? We aren’t given a penny from the school system. If we can make it happen, any school can. I also saw black and brown mentioned... again, have you seen Beau Chene? Our soccer team is a wonderful mix of all cultures and we can can go too. We get the usually comments under the breath that a lot minority having teams get... but we take it and move on and do our thing. So yes, low income schools are ALWAYS represented when I am there. There are others similar to me there as well. I’m not on the McKinley opposition bandwagon. It’s a great story. But the rule is the rule and no one should be surprise they were seeded 24 under the rules. That’s my position. It’s just this time it happened and a team beat the 9 seed and then beat a 9 man team and is pretty darn good and about to face the 2 time defending champion. But success on the field isn’t what this about... the rule is there for a mathematical formula and the minimum is there to make the formula fair. Every PR sport has this requirement and the thinking around the state is every team can meet this minimum with minimal effort.
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Post by dshughes on Feb 15, 2020 21:02:02 GMT -6
Rules exist because lack of rules is worse.
Having a minimum games to make the playoffs is very reasonable.
Somehow 'low income' schools manage to achieve 10 games in football, and expensive sport for equipment, coaches and players. They achieve complete seasons in basketball which requires gyms and lots of travel. But a sport that requires the least financial investment is hard?
I do not know if 15 is the magic number. But a number should be picked and simply enforced. Failure to achieve it means congrats, nice season, see you next year.
There could also be a penalty assessed for cancelling games. Not sure how it could work, but allowing a team to cancel could be seen as a forfeit, which might solve the issue directly. Recognizing there is a difference in cancelling and real issues such as severe weather, etc,
Soccer will grow when it has reliable, creditable rules and athletes can have confidence in it. Who would want to play for only a handful of games. Who would want to bother with a schedule to build a program and PR points if teams can simply cancel. Who wants to coach and build a team when the field dimensions can vary so greatly as to affect the game.
Amazing how we can do rules for all the other sports. The sport will grow when many of our best athletes realize soccer is a real sport. A sport with a strong future.
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Post by woodlawnsoccer on Feb 15, 2020 21:09:29 GMT -6
I would like to know how many people on this advisory meeting, coaches association, and the people who will be making the final decision on this rule are from or represent low income schools. Without someone there to stand up for or advocate for the low income schools, rules like these will continue to be passed that will only hurt these schools or programs without regard, and have no affect on wealthy or private schools. If the goal is to grow and expand soccer than we must consider either scrapping the rule altogether or seriously decreasing the requirement or else it'll be more low income, not established schools that will be the hurt the most The sport of high school soccer in Louisiana is growing faster than other sport in the state. All coaches are invited to the advisory meetings annually. But before I continue... Define low income school? Have you seen Beau Chene? St Landry parish is one of the poorest income areas and school systems in the state. And we are further away from a metro area than The 2 schools you just described. Income has nothing to do with scheduling when you are close enough to schools. I take time away from my family and kids to coach these boys (training daily and games 2 times a week and 3-4 tournaments a year) and follow the requirements and give them the best chance they can have to succeed. So should every other team with the same goals and aspirations of my team. We are not select. Some think we are a private school because we a decent at soccer. We are not even an upper class public school. We are from a poor area and even last night, even Lakeshore joked how we were out in the country. We are... We are a country area rural school. We play near 30 every year. Why can’t a metro area team play that or at least 15? We aren’t given a penny from the school system. If we can make it happen, any school can. I also saw black and brown mentioned... again, have you seen Beau Chene? Our soccer team is a wonderful mix of all cultures and we can can go too. We get the usually comments under the breath that a lot minority having teams get... but we take it and move on and do our thing. So yes, low income schools are ALWAYS represented when I am there. There are others similar to me there as well. I’m not on the McKinley opposition bandwagon. It’s a great story. But the rule is the rule and no one should be surprise they were seeded 24 under the rules. That’s my position. It’s just this time it happened and a team beat the 9 seed and then beat a 9 man team and is pretty darn good and about to face the 2 time defending champion. But success on the field isn’t what this about... the rule is there for a mathematical formula and the minimum is there to make the formula fair. Every PR sport has this requirement and the thinking around the state is every team can meet this minimum with minimal effort. Listening to most other coaches here who coach low income schools(my definition is usually schools that give 100% free lunches but that doesn't always tell the story either btw), I've decided to change my argument from just low income schools to low income schools who aren't established as programs which I've been mentioning. Coaches like you and the coach at bonnabel coach low income schools but have been there for a number of years and with your dedication, sacrifices, and work have been able to be successful. Kudos and thank you for putting the time in to grow the sport and give these boys a chance but not every low income school, the majority of low income schools are not like this. You and bonnabel, school's like this, are an outlier I would say. I would say income ties directly to reputation and being able to establish a good program and reputation of being established and good is what gets you games. When I was the coach three years ago at McKinley we had no rep and could barely get teams to play us. Many flat ignored my request. Again, while I seriously commend you for the sacrifice and what you do for giving your kids the best chance to succeed, it took years of your sacrifice that a first year head coach who's already coming in behind the 8 ball by being hired late simply can not replicate. This rule would be punishing a first year coach and program like this while not affecting yours even though they are both low income. These type of schools should still be represented. Mckjnelt is not the only case of this. I remember two years ago broadmoor got a first year head coach and had some success and made the playoffs although they did not meet the 15 games either but they lost in the first round. While this rule may not affect your type of low income school it will definitely punish the McKinley's and broadmoors of the world. In this respect, I dont think you can compare your program to these, its apples to oranges even tho you're both low income. This idea that if we can do it so can everyone else doesnt apply when you have a tenured coach like yourself and these other schools get new coaches every year. It's not fair to the first year coach and seniors to tell them they cant participate in the playoffs .I don't think every team can with minimal effort or maximal effort sometimes teams are put in bad situations like I'm mentioning
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Post by woodlawnsoccer on Feb 15, 2020 21:14:37 GMT -6
Rules exist because lack of rules is worse. Having a minimum games to make the playoffs is very reasonable. Somehow 'low income' schools manage to achieve 10 games in football, and expensive sport for equipment, coaches and players. They achieve complete seasons in basketball which requires gyms and lots of travel. But a sport that requires the least financial investment is hard? I do not know if 15 is the magic number. But a number should be picked and simply enforced. Failure to achieve it means congrats, nice season, see you next year. There could also be a penalty assessed for cancelling games. Not sure how it could work, but allowing a team to cancel could be seen as a forfeit, which might solve the issue directly. Recognizing there is a difference in cancelling and real issues such as severe weather, etc, Soccer will grow when it has reliable, creditable rules and athletes can have confidence in it. Who would want to play for only a handful of games. Who would want to bother with a schedule to build a program and PR points if teams can simply cancel. Who wants to coach and build a team when the field dimensions can vary so greatly as to affect the game. Amazing how we can do rules for all the other sports. The sport will grow when many of our best athletes realize soccer is a real sport. A sport with a strong future. You obviously never seen ref fees if you think soccer doesnt require some serious financial investment lol I also dont think you can compare football and basketball funding to soccer these sports are what administration actually cares about and supports soccer is not even in the same universe as these sports when it comes to support and funding from the actual school. I would say what low income schools need is support and to become established getting a coach then actually cares and will stay for the long term
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Post by beauchenecoach on Feb 15, 2020 21:18:23 GMT -6
The sport of high school soccer in Louisiana is growing faster than other sport in the state. All coaches are invited to the advisory meetings annually. But before I continue... Define low income school? Have you seen Beau Chene? St Landry parish is one of the poorest income areas and school systems in the state. And we are further away from a metro area than The 2 schools you just described. Income has nothing to do with scheduling when you are close enough to schools. I take time away from my family and kids to coach these boys (training daily and games 2 times a week and 3-4 tournaments a year) and follow the requirements and give them the best chance they can have to succeed. So should every other team with the same goals and aspirations of my team. We are not select. Some think we are a private school because we a decent at soccer. We are not even an upper class public school. We are from a poor area and even last night, even Lakeshore joked how we were out in the country. We are... We are a country area rural school. We play near 30 every year. Why can’t a metro area team play that or at least 15? We aren’t given a penny from the school system. If we can make it happen, any school can. I also saw black and brown mentioned... again, have you seen Beau Chene? Our soccer team is a wonderful mix of all cultures and we can can go too. We get the usually comments under the breath that a lot minority having teams get... but we take it and move on and do our thing. So yes, low income schools are ALWAYS represented when I am there. There are others similar to me there as well. I’m not on the McKinley opposition bandwagon. It’s a great story. But the rule is the rule and no one should be surprise they were seeded 24 under the rules. That’s my position. It’s just this time it happened and a team beat the 9 seed and then beat a 9 man team and is pretty darn good and about to face the 2 time defending champion. But success on the field isn’t what this about... the rule is there for a mathematical formula and the minimum is there to make the formula fair. Every PR sport has this requirement and the thinking around the state is every team can meet this minimum with minimal effort. Listening to most other coaches here who coach low income schools(my definition is usually schools that give 100% free lunches but that doesn't always tell the story either btw), I've decided to change my argument from just low income schools to low income schools who aren't established as programs which I've been mentioning. Coaches like you and the coach at bonnabel coach low income schools but have been there for a number of years and with your dedication, sacrifices, and work have been able to be successful. Kudos and thank you for putting the time in to grow the sport and give these boys a chance but not every low income school, the majority of low income schools are not like this. You and bonnabel, school's like this, are an outlier I would say. I would say income ties directly to reputation and being able to establish a good program and reputation of being established and good is what gets you games. When I was the coach three years ago at McKinley we had no rep and could barely get teams to play us. Many flat ignored my request. Again, while I seriously commend you for the sacrifice and what you do for giving your kids the best chance to succeed, it took years of your sacrifice that a first year head coach who's already coming in behind the 8 ball by being hired late simply can not replicate. This rule would be punishing a first year coach and program like this while not affecting yours even though they are both low income. These type of schools should still be represented. Mckjnelt is not the only case of this. I remember two years ago broadmoor got a first year head coach and had some success and made the playoffs although they did not meet the 15 games either but they lost in the first round. While this rule may not affect your type of low income school it will definitely punish the McKinley's and broadmoors of the world. In this respect, I dont think you can compare your program to these, its apples to oranges even tho you're both low income. This idea that if we can do it so can everyone else doesnt apply when you have a tenured coach like yourself and these other schools get new coaches every year. It's not fair to the first year coach and seniors to tell them they cant participate in the playoffs .I don't think every team can with minimal effort or maximal effort sometimes teams are put in bad situations like I'm mentioning We are talking about scheduling Our first season we played 22 games. I didn’t know very many coaches and made calls. I made calls for weeks and filled a schedule. It’s not hard. And like I said, we aren’t a metro area school. 30 min from Lafayette. We are talking about 15 games. Find your goal and schedule accordingly. If you want to make playoffs schedule 15 or more. It isn’t hard. By the way... we are title I and 100% free lunches and breakfast as well. Yes we are established now, but we never had difficulty scheduling. 2 years ago and the year before we played ALL road games due to stadium field being redone (another sign of a low income school and school system) and still had 29 and 27 respectively. I could show you Opelousas High... same school system and probably even more of a low income population. No CLUB players unlike McKinley and Beau Chene. They get it done with multiple coaches over the years. Again... this isn’t about McKinley. It’s about the rules and a mathematical formula for the playoff tournament. And 15 is simple To achieve with a few phone calls One last question... were you able to play 15 games when you coaches there?
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Post by beauchenecoach on Feb 15, 2020 21:23:57 GMT -6
And I do agree McKinley was behind the 8 ball... but in future seasons 15 should be easy to meet. I said it before... I understand it was a special situation with the sanctions and all. But this isn’t a case for anti rules of minimum games for a mathematical formula to work properly.
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Post by woodlawnsoccer on Feb 15, 2020 21:32:40 GMT -6
Listening to most other coaches here who coach low income schools(my definition is usually schools that give 100% free lunches but that doesn't always tell the story either btw), I've decided to change my argument from just low income schools to low income schools who aren't established as programs which I've been mentioning. Coaches like you and the coach at bonnabel coach low income schools but have been there for a number of years and with your dedication, sacrifices, and work have been able to be successful. Kudos and thank you for putting the time in to grow the sport and give these boys a chance but not every low income school, the majority of low income schools are not like this. You and bonnabel, school's like this, are an outlier I would say. I would say income ties directly to reputation and being able to establish a good program and reputation of being established and good is what gets you games. When I was the coach three years ago at McKinley we had no rep and could barely get teams to play us. Many flat ignored my request. Again, while I seriously commend you for the sacrifice and what you do for giving your kids the best chance to succeed, it took years of your sacrifice that a first year head coach who's already coming in behind the 8 ball by being hired late simply can not replicate. This rule would be punishing a first year coach and program like this while not affecting yours even though they are both low income. These type of schools should still be represented. Mckjnelt is not the only case of this. I remember two years ago broadmoor got a first year head coach and had some success and made the playoffs although they did not meet the 15 games either but they lost in the first round. While this rule may not affect your type of low income school it will definitely punish the McKinley's and broadmoors of the world. In this respect, I dont think you can compare your program to these, its apples to oranges even tho you're both low income. This idea that if we can do it so can everyone else doesnt apply when you have a tenured coach like yourself and these other schools get new coaches every year. It's not fair to the first year coach and seniors to tell them they cant participate in the playoffs .I don't think every team can with minimal effort or maximal effort sometimes teams are put in bad situations like I'm mentioning We are talking about scheduling Our first season we played 22 games. I didn’t know very many coaches and made calls. I made calls for weeks and filled a schedule. It’s not hard. And like I said, we aren’t a metro area school. 30 min from Lafayette. We are talking about 15 games. Find your goal and schedule accordingly. If you want to make playoffs schedule 15 or more. It isn’t hard. By the way... we are title I and 100% free lunches and breakfast as well. Yes we are established now, but we never had difficulty scheduling. 2 years ago and the year before we played ALL road games due to stadium field being redone (another sign of a low income school and school system) and still had 29 and 27 respectively. I could show you Opelousas High... same school system and probably even more of a low income population. No CLUB players unlike McKinley and Beau Chene. They get it done with multiple coaches over the years. Again... this isn’t about McKinley. It’s about the rules and a mathematical formula for the playoff tournament. And 15 is simple To achieve with a few phone calls One last question... were you able to play 15 games when you coaches there? I understand we are talking about scheduling and that's why I bring up the two examples I've brought up- both schools hired a first year coach late to a program that is not established and does not have a reputation as being a good soccer school so they wont help your pr. Both coaches had trouble scheduling, if the minimum rule was in effect the people who really would have been punished and hurt would be the seniors who would not be able to play in the playoffs during their final season. All because it wasnt hard for you doesnt mean if wasnt hard for them or for me when I was there. We cant look at our experience and think that is the norm across the board for every coach because it is not. I only brought up free lunches because you asked what I define as low income by the way. I know this isnt about one specific team and its about the rules about pr and making sure the power rankings are mathematically accurate so while I will concede that the requirement of having a minimum game rule is probably a necessity, I think 15 may be too high for some coaches that come in late to a program like tbise two examples I've given. I was able to schedule exactly 15 games my first year there but I was hired in may of the previous year, and had 5 automatic district games to help. No established or good team would play us, most totally ignored my calls(I actually tried reaching out to you too coach lol). We had to fill our remaining games with similar not estaboushed teams like ourselves that did not help our power ranking at all. So while I understand my experience isnt the norm for all coaches I dont think your approach that it's simple with some effort to get these games is either
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Post by woodlawnsoccer on Feb 15, 2020 21:41:49 GMT -6
And I do agree McKinley was behind the 8 ball... but in future seasons 15 should be easy to meet. I said it before... I understand it was a special situation with the sanctions and all. But this isn’t a case for anti rules of minimum games for a mathematical formula to work properly. In the future it will be easier just like it was a lot easier in my 2nd year at McKinley to get games before I was suspended, but I do think a special situation like this is a perfect example that if minimum game rule is a necessity 15 games is too high. I truly believe this rule i hurtful to programs like McKinley, Broadmoor, and would even be for your program if they didn’t have. Tenured coach like yourself
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Post by dshughes on Feb 15, 2020 21:47:04 GMT -6
Rules exist because lack of rules is worse. Having a minimum games to make the playoffs is very reasonable. Somehow 'low income' schools manage to achieve 10 games in football, and expensive sport for equipment, coaches and players. They achieve complete seasons in basketball which requires gyms and lots of travel. But a sport that requires the least financial investment is hard? I do not know if 15 is the magic number. But a number should be picked and simply enforced. Failure to achieve it means congrats, nice season, see you next year. There could also be a penalty assessed for cancelling games. Not sure how it could work, but allowing a team to cancel could be seen as a forfeit, which might solve the issue directly. Recognizing there is a difference in cancelling and real issues such as severe weather, etc, Soccer will grow when it has reliable, creditable rules and athletes can have confidence in it. Who would want to play for only a handful of games. Who would want to bother with a schedule to build a program and PR points if teams can simply cancel. Who wants to coach and build a team when the field dimensions can vary so greatly as to affect the game. Amazing how we can do rules for all the other sports. The sport will grow when many of our best athletes realize soccer is a real sport. A sport with a strong future. You obviously never seen ref fees if you think soccer doesnt require some serious financial investment lol I also dont think you can compare football and basketball funding to soccer these sports are what administration actually cares about and supports soccer is not even in the same universe as these sports when it comes to support and funding from the actual school. I would say what low income schools need is support and to become established getting a coach then actually cares and will stay for the long term I think you made the point for me. So they are not low income schools. They are schools where soccer is not important to the school and/or the culture is such they have new coaches, etc. So why would rules be adjusted to account for such unique situations. Not every school plays every sport. I feel your pain. I fully understand how hard it is to grow soccer in Louisiana. It’s all hard. Fields. Players. Having enough quality refs. Fans who know the game. Half the parents still don’t understand off sides, especially when the player comes back to get the ball. But we fight on. I said maybe the number is too high. Maybe the answer is set districts and equall home and home and if you simply play a full district schedule you are eligible. Who knows. But there should be some rules. To grow soccer now we need to insure fairness and trust in the system. There will always been challenges with new programs. But right now to me the trade off of accepting a system that can be gamed for PR benefit is worse than having a system where a few teams can get a first round playoff game where they get regulated 8-0 at half but get to say they made the playoffs. How is that helping grow soccer? Soccer grows when it treats itself like the big three.
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Post by uhscubs1 on Feb 15, 2020 22:14:25 GMT -6
It is very easy to tell McKinley to go schedule 15 games since they are in a metro area. Plenty of teams to play. But what if no one wants to play you because they think it will hurt their PR? They don't know how many games you will play and if you will win any. Especially when the coach comes on board after just about everyone has their schedule set. When the McKinley coach came on here and asked for games during the season which one of you offered to play? Chad, no disrespect here but I believe your first year at BC when you said you scheduled 22 games PR was not in play. Therefore, playing you did not hurt anyone if your team did not win many games that year. Every coach on here saying it is easy to schedule 15 games please be willing to play McKinley next year at their place and please bring the fees for the refs. All of you should have an understanding of the situation McKinley is in and how difficult it really is for them. Especially if your school is low income as well. Yes rules are needed but not all rules are good. Minimum number of games is a silly rule and as upper90 said earlier, if someone thinks playing two games is going to get them ready for the playoffs then I would love to see someone try that.
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Post by gallstar on Feb 15, 2020 22:30:17 GMT -6
Well in an act of kindness, Gallstar and Rabid Monkey would like to buy Stock in McKinely and become honorary fans. Our team let us down and not gently. We’re sitting on the cusp of self-destruction. Any consideration is appreciated.
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Post by firebruin on Feb 15, 2020 22:38:14 GMT -6
If you want to have a stronger program, you need to fundraise. I search out opportunities every year that my family and team can do that will bring in money for the boys.
While I understand that it is difficult for a first year head coach, 15 matches should be easily achievable.
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Post by kevin on Feb 15, 2020 22:39:40 GMT -6
Well in an act of kindness, Gallstar and Rabid Monkey would like to buy Stock in McKinely and become honorary fans. Our team let us down and not gently. We’re sitting on the cusp of self-destruction. Any consideration is appreciated. I can see the sign on the scoreboard now: "Welcome to McKinley High's Gallstar Stadium."
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Post by gallstar on Feb 15, 2020 22:45:57 GMT -6
Well in an act of kindness, Gallstar and Rabid Monkey would like to buy Stock in McKinely and become honorary fans. Our team let us down and not gently. We’re sitting on the cusp of self-destruction. Any consideration is appreciated. I can see the sign on the scoreboard now: "Welcome to McKinley High's Gallstar Stadium." Kevin, I'll need the Rabid Monkey to be included. Can you possibly think of a crafty combo inclusion. Maybe the fan section can be the Rabid Monkey’s scream team🙈! I'm no longer going to the St. Paul vs. Lafayette game. I'm now going to Mckinley vs. Holy Cross. This is where you'll find Rabid Monkey and I. We will be the two St. Amant fans dressed in McKinely colored hair. Well I'll have my hair colored Rabid will just wear a wig!
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Post by time2retire on Feb 15, 2020 22:47:39 GMT -6
I don’t work for free so any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Post by woodlawnsoccer on Feb 16, 2020 0:25:00 GMT -6
You obviously never seen ref fees if you think soccer doesnt require some serious financial investment lol I also dont think you can compare football and basketball funding to soccer these sports are what administration actually cares about and supports soccer is not even in the same universe as these sports when it comes to support and funding from the actual school. I would say what low income schools need is support and to become established getting a coach then actually cares and will stay for the long term I think you made the point for me. So they are not low income schools. They are schools where soccer is not important to the school and/or the culture is such they have new coaches, etc. So why would rules be adjusted to account for such unique situations. Not every school plays every sport. I feel your pain. I fully understand how hard it is to grow soccer in Louisiana. It’s all hard. Fields. Players. Having enough quality refs. Fans who know the game. Half the parents still don’t understand off sides, especially when the player comes back to get the ball. But we fight on. I said maybe the number is too high. Maybe the answer is set districts and equall home and home and if you simply play a full district schedule you are eligible. Who knows. But there should be some rules. To grow soccer now we need to insure fairness and trust in the system. There will always been challenges with new programs. But right now to me the trade off of accepting a system that can be gamed for PR benefit is worse than having a system where a few teams can get a first round playoff game where they get regulated 8-0 at half but get to say they made the playoffs. How is that helping grow soccer? Soccer grows when it treats itself like the big three. I dont see how I made your point for you but I will say uhscubs perfectly summed up my sentiments with the post under yours They are low income schools, these programs I am talking about that are not established are always low income schools and I coached or trained at a few of them (Belaire, McKinley, tara) I will tell you at these schools soccer and the culture or soccer is extremely important to the players. Currently coaching at woodlawn and the difference between my old schools and woodlawn is insane. Soccer is so important to these boys at my old schools they play in their free time everyday in the park with their friends because they cant afford club. These are the kids this rule is really hurting.
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Post by woodlawnsoccer on Feb 16, 2020 0:27:22 GMT -6
I can see the sign on the scoreboard now: "Welcome to McKinley High's Gallstar Stadium." Kevin, I'll need the Rabid Monkey to be included. Can you possibly think of a crafty combo inclusion. Maybe the fan section can be the Rabid Monkey’s scream team🙈! I'm no longer going to the St. Paul vs. Lafayette game. I'm now going to Mckinley vs. Holy Cross. This is where you'll find Rabid Monkey and I. We will be the two St. Amant fans dressed in McKinely colored hair. Well I'll have my hair colored Rabid will just wear a wig! I will also be at this game, I'll be the short Italian dude dressed in my old mckinley gear counting the number of beards the McKinley players have and cheering them on in my broken spanish
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