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Post by warrior16 on Feb 26, 2020 17:48:15 GMT -6
Kind of a random topic, but as we head into the championship stretch of this season, I was curious about a surprising result from nearly 15 years ago now.
Carencro won a D-I title, seemingly out of absolutely nowhere, in the 2005-06 season. They were a wild card team, finishing 3rd in district behind Lafayette and Acadiana. It seems like they were considered one of the stronger wild card teams, since they were matched against Caddo Magnet, who finished 2nd in their district, instead of a district champion like most of the 14 wild card teams.
After upsetting Caddo Magnet in PKs, Carencro went home and upset both Airline and Acadiana 2-0. Then they upset Brother Martin 2-1 on the road with a golden goal in the semifinal, and finally upset Fontainebleau 3-1 at home to win the state championship. What they did is basically the equivalent of a team seeded about 19th through 23rd in the coaches' ranking format winning a state championship in the highest division. Very remarkable.
This was the same year as Hurricane Katrina. This was also the same playoffs with the infamous Jesuit-Lafayette forfeit game. Fontainebleau upset Jesuit the game after that in the semifinals.
Both St. Paul's and Catholic were bounced in the first round that year, to put in perspective how much things have changed for those programs. Vandy cruised through the playoffs that year, not conceding a goal, and beating East Ascension 8-0 in the final.
Can any of you long-timers on here offer us any insight as to what happened here? Was this Carencro squad just a team of destiny that caught fire in the postseason, or is there something more to the story (injuries, suspensions, etc.) that caused a great team to enter the playoffs as an wild card? It doesn't seem like that much of a fluke, since they won their district the next season and made the semifinals.
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Post by VandyCandy on Feb 26, 2020 22:26:06 GMT -6
Didn’t ask. 😐
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Post by upper90 on Feb 27, 2020 6:57:23 GMT -6
Carencro was a legit team. Doing some research, they went 23-8-1. They had some solid players, too: Steven Rosser, Jake Hebert, and Trevor Thomas, to name a few. A lot of them played on the really successful '89 club team, CSC Coup de Grace.
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Post by kevin on Feb 27, 2020 8:26:19 GMT -6
How much did those NOLA teams play and practice together that year? I don't think Jesuit and Brother Martin reopened until January. Their kids were all over the place. I guess St. Paul's was probably open before soccer season started, but I'd assume club season was all messed up for those kids as well. Many people in New Orleans were evacuated for at least a month, maybe more.
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Post by gallstar on Feb 27, 2020 12:32:31 GMT -6
How much did those NOLA teams play and practice together that year? I don't think Jesuit and Brother Martin reopened until January. Their kids were all over the place. I guess St. Paul's was probably open before soccer season started, but I'd assume club season was all messed up for those kids as well. Many people in New Orleans were evacuated for at least a month, maybe more. Great points, Kevin. Will it take two Category 5 hurricanes (Rita and Katrina) to get another public champ? Let's hope not. Lafayette was right in the middle of these two storms.
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Post by NutMeg on Feb 27, 2020 12:53:16 GMT -6
Carencro was a legit team. Doing some research, they went 23-8-1. They had some solid players, too: Steven Rosser, Jake Hebert, and Trevor Thomas, to name a few. A lot of them played on the really successful '89 club team, CSC Coup de Grace. Was Jonathan Brunet (JB) also on this team? He went on to play at Kentucky. Now he is the coach at Catholic; before he was at ESA.
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Post by NutMeg on Feb 27, 2020 12:53:18 GMT -6
Carencro was a legit team. Doing some research, they went 23-8-1. They had some solid players, too: Steven Rosser, Jake Hebert, and Trevor Thomas, to name a few. A lot of them played on the really successful '89 club team, CSC Coup de Grace. Was Jonathan Brunet (JB) also on this team? He went on to play at Kentucky. Now he is the coach at Catholic; before he was at ESA.
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Post by upper90 on Feb 27, 2020 12:57:13 GMT -6
Carencro was a legit team. Doing some research, they went 23-8-1. They had some solid players, too: Steven Rosser, Jake Hebert, and Trevor Thomas, to name a few. A lot of them played on the really successful '89 club team, CSC Coup de Grace. Was Jonathan Brunet (JB) also on this team? He went on to play at Kentucky. Now he is the coach at Catholic; before he was at ESA. No, I believe JB was about 5-6 years before this, at least.
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Post by cmt9770 on Feb 27, 2020 13:32:02 GMT -6
Obviously many factors including the hurricane, forfeit, and Jesuit bouncing out after the forfeit helped. But that don’t take away from what Cro did. They started district 3-4 and finished the back half winning 6 out of the last 7 to go 9-5 in district. That’s back when district 3 was loaded. I know of only one senior that I can think of who played high level club and that was Stevie Billeaud. Majority of the club guys were the juniors mentioned earlier who played for coup de Gras. We had a lot of sophomore and freshman club guys but they did not contribute much as far as playing time during the games. One big factor is around halfway through the year Jake Hebert was taken out the goal and switched with Steven on the field. Both guys ended up all state their senior year. It changed the whole dynamic of the team.
That senior group was very close and played pick up ball all summer and many weekends because they loved the game. When playoffs came there was no doubt a run could be made. The team believed they could beat anyone put out there and with a few lucky bounces and playing above what anyone expected besides the guys on that team they surprised everyone. A lot of guys met up a few years back for the 10 year reunion and the love for the game and each other was still there.
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Post by historian on Feb 27, 2020 22:16:48 GMT -6
As far as Carencro winning, it was only a fluke in that I believe Lafayette High was 31-0-1 or something crazy like that. They had only given up maybe 8 goals all season. They were legit. As many know, they won the quarter-final only to be disqualified and Jesuit was reinstated. As far as Carencro was concerned they were a very legit team. This is what public school soccer was in Lafayette before school of choice came in. I was the head coach at Comeaux High that year, and the final district rankings were Lafayette, Acadiana, Carencro, Comeaux. As far as Comeaux we took Carencro into overtime both times we played (won 1-0, lost 5-4). I had a player sign to play D1 that year, and a second player signed to play D2 the following season.
With the exception of Lafayette High that year, Acadiana, Carencro, Comeaux could beat anyone on the given day. So it wasn’t a fluke that Carencro got the better of Acadiana in the playoff. We matched up against a very good Dutchtown and it was a 2–1 game with less than ten before Dutchtown scored to ultimately win 3-1. Playoffs were also pre-determined. They weren’t coaches rankings or seeds. The top two teams from each district was guaranteed a position, the teams that did not automatically qualify were placed on the bracket starting with the best winning percentage and decreasing until all positions were filled.
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Post by warrior16 on Feb 27, 2020 23:20:14 GMT -6
This is why I am called the historian. First off, Jonathan Brunet played at Acadiana and graduated in 2001. He played on Acadiana’s 98 state championship team, and was a runner up in ‘99 and ‘01. I believe in 2006 he was the assistant Coach at Teurlings and they won the title that year. As far as Carencro winning, it was only a fluke in that I believe Lafayette High was 31-0-1 or something crazy like that. They had only given up maybe 8 goals all season. They were legit. As many know, they won the quarter-final only to be disqualified and Jesuit was reinstated. As far as Carencro was concerned they were a very legit team. This is what public school soccer was in Lafayette before school of choice came in. I was the head coach at Comeaux High that year, and the final district rankings were Lafayette, Acadiana, Carencro, Comeaux. As far as Comeaux we took Carencro into overtime both times we played (won 1-0, lost 5-4). I had a player sign to play D1 that year, and a second player signed to play D2 the following season. With the exception of Lafayette High that year, Acadiana, Carencro, Comeaux could beat anyone on the given day. So it wasn’t a fluke that Carencro got the better of Acadiana in the playoff. We matched up against a very good Dutchtown and it was a 2–1 game with less than ten before Dutchtown scored to ultimately win 3-1. Playoffs were also pre-determined. They weren’t coaches rankings or seeds. The top two teams from each district was guaranteed a position, the teams that did not automatically qualify were placed on the bracket starting with the best winning percentage and decreasing until all positions were filled. Interesting. Thanks, Coach Comeaux. That old playoff system was before my time. Looks like the LHSAA switched to the coaches' ranking starting in the 2008-09 season. Public schools will always face an uphill battle, compared to big and well-established private schools like St. Paul's, Jesuit, and Catholic. It's much harder for the Lafayette public schools than it used to be, and the public schools in Baton Rouge and New Orleans can never guarantee a consistent supply of talent. Tara High went from being a legit state title contender to a dead program in about 10 years. Thankfully, their program is back now, but there's a lot of volatility in those public school programs. McKinley, Baton Rouge Magnet, and Woodlawn have had some outstanding teams recently, but there's been plenty of down years there, too. Heck, even smaller privates like us face a challenge when it comes to consistently getting talent. Catholic High gets pretty much 80-90% of the club players from the Catholic feeder schools in Baton Rouge, and we just have to hope that there are some studs in the much smaller group of players that end up at St. Michael. Sometimes there are, but some years the club talent well runs pretty dry for us. I'd bet that the first true public school to win a boys soccer title since Carencro will come from the Northshore sometime in the coming decade. Lakeshore came really close last year, and Mandeville and Northshore have had some excellent teams. The problems those schools deal with is having their prospective talent get poached by St. Paul's. It might take awhile, but it'll eventually happen. There's too much talent in the Northshore for one of those teams to not eventually break through. If not the Northshore, it might be one of the Ascension Parish public schools, or Denham Springs. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the Ascension Parish programs when Prairieville inevitably gets its own high school in a few years. An absurd number of people my age are moving down to Prairieville and Galvez and starting a family. All those young kids will almost certainly have a new high school to go to in about 10 years or so. Dutchtown, East Ascension, and St. Amant all have close to or more than 2,000 students right now, and that won't last forever. Dutchtown would probably be impacted the most by a new high school in Prairieville.
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Post by gallstar on Feb 27, 2020 23:39:18 GMT -6
St. Amant only lost 5 seniors and they’ve got four to five Very nice pieces that will be Juniors and Seniors next year. Dutchtown will lose 5 to 6 and most of their fire power up top. Bridgewater if healthy and Gaffney will both be two of the top 10 in the state next year. Gaffney could be the best overall player in the state next year but will definitely be the hardest worker in any game he’s in. I love that kids motor. David is a great player as well for the gators and their goalie will be there another two years. I like Central Lafouche as a sleeper and HL has a stud up top in number 2. They’re very young and had some very nice showings this season. Mandeville will be incredibly talented and losing very little. I agree that Mandeville has the best chance to make a deep run and challenge for a title. I think the Gators will be right there next year but will need a few freshman to step up and round out their first 11. St. Paul has 13 seniors for next year and Catholic will have around 30. They’ve got a huge pool of talent and might need to field multiple teams to satisfy their population of kids.
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Post by coachray40 on Feb 28, 2020 9:37:51 GMT -6
This is why I am called the historian. First off, Jonathan Brunet played at Acadiana and graduated in 2001. He played on Acadiana’s 98 state championship team, and was a runner up in ‘99 and ‘01. I believe in 2006 he was the assistant Coach at Teurlings and they won the title that year. As far as Carencro winning, it was only a fluke in that I believe Lafayette High was 31-0-1 or something crazy like that. They had only given up maybe 8 goals all season. They were legit. As many know, they won the quarter-final only to be disqualified and Jesuit was reinstated. As far as Carencro was concerned they were a very legit team. This is what public school soccer was in Lafayette before school of choice came in. I was the head coach at Comeaux High that year, and the final district rankings were Lafayette, Acadiana, Carencro, Comeaux. As far as Comeaux we took Carencro into overtime both times we played (won 1-0, lost 5-4). I had a player sign to play D1 that year, and a second player signed to play D2 the following season. With the exception of Lafayette High that year, Acadiana, Carencro, Comeaux could beat anyone on the given day. So it wasn’t a fluke that Carencro got the better of Acadiana in the playoff. We matched up against a very good Dutchtown and it was a 2–1 game with less than ten before Dutchtown scored to ultimately win 3-1. Playoffs were also pre-determined. They weren’t coaches rankings or seeds. The top two teams from each district was guaranteed a position, the teams that did not automatically qualify were placed on the bracket starting with the best winning percentage and decreasing until all positions were filled. Interesting. Thanks, Coach Comeaux. That old playoff system was before my time. Looks like the LHSAA switched to the coaches' ranking starting in the 2008-09 season. Public schools will always face an uphill battle, compared to big and well-established private schools like St. Paul's, Jesuit, and Catholic. It's much harder for the Lafayette public schools than it used to be, and the public schools in Baton Rouge and New Orleans can never guarantee a consistent supply of talent. Tara High went from being a legit state title contender to a dead program in about 10 years. Thankfully, their program is back now, but there's a lot of volatility in those public school programs. McKinley, Baton Rouge Magnet, and Woodlawn have had some outstanding teams recently, but there's been plenty of down years there, too. Heck, even smaller privates like us face a challenge when it comes to consistently getting talent. Catholic High gets pretty much 80-90% of the club players from the Catholic feeder schools in Baton Rouge, and we just have to hope that there are some studs in the much smaller group of players that end up at St. Michael. Sometimes there are, but some years the club talent well runs pretty dry for us. I'd bet that the first true public school to win a boys soccer title since Carencro will come from the Northshore sometime in the coming decade. Lakeshore came really close last year, and Mandeville and Northshore have had some excellent teams. The problems those schools deal with is having their prospective talent get poached by St. Paul's. It might take awhile, but it'll eventually happen. There's too much talent in the Northshore for one of those teams to not eventually break through. If not the Northshore, it might be one of the Ascension Parish public schools, or Denham Springs. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the Ascension Parish programs when Prairieville inevitably gets its own high school in a few years. An absurd number of people my age are moving down to Prairieville and Galvez and starting a family. All those young kids will almost certainly have a new high school to go to in about 10 years or so. Dutchtown, East Ascension, and St. Amant all have close to or more than 2,000 students right now, and that won't last forever. Dutchtown would probably be impacted the most by a new high school in Prairieville. Gonna be sooner than that. My understanding is that ground will be broken on the new HS sometime between now and September, with projected opening of fall 2022. Dutchtown is now over close or right over 3000. St Amant is over 2000, and East Ascension is around 1700 When the new Prairieville HS school opens, we will see a big influx of population into the Northeast part of Ascension Parish, and it will be a 1500+ student school the day it opens. The redistrict will effect both Dutchtown (mostly) AND St Amant (some), and probably even the enrollment out in east Ascension parish to a total of 4 public High schools at around 2000 students each. The new prairieville school will probably be very similar to the new Southside HS in Lafayette for immediate competitive ability. Within 3 years it will be in the upper tier. Im most interested in how it changes the district alignments. The Ascension Parish schools have become more traditionally tied to the Bayou area rather than metro Baton Rouge (which they are closer to). The new Prairieville School will probably open as a 4A/Division II sized school and move to a 5A quickly. I would expect that folks will flock to the Galvez/Muddy Creek/HWY 42 area of Ascension Parish in order to get their kids into the newest HS in LA. Players will be there right away
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Post by time2retire on Feb 28, 2020 13:41:36 GMT -6
Now the big question. What will the mascot be? Please be something cool like Prairieville Possum Warriors
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Post by jcstewart on Feb 28, 2020 13:50:18 GMT -6
Now the big question. What will the mascot be? Please be something cool like Prairieville Possum Warriors Anything will be better than Southside Sharks.
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Post by historian on Feb 28, 2020 14:36:41 GMT -6
Now the big question. What will the mascot be? Please be something cool like Prairieville Possum Warriors Prairieville Pinecones
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Post by time2retire on Feb 28, 2020 14:42:32 GMT -6
Now the big question. What will the mascot be? Please be something cool like Prairieville Possum Warriors Anything will be better than Southside Sharks. Please tell me your fight song is baby shark
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Post by jcstewart on Feb 28, 2020 15:11:01 GMT -6
Anything will be better than Southside Sharks. Please tell me your fight song is baby shark Not my school so I'm not sure. Would make sense though. On multiple occasions my daughter's school fight song could have been "The Lion Sleeps Tonight".
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Post by warrior16 on Feb 28, 2020 15:12:25 GMT -6
Now the big question. What will the mascot be? Please be something cool like Prairieville Possum Warriors The Prairieville Traffic, or maybe the Realtors would be most fitting. But yeah, when it opens, that new Prairieville school will immediately be a threat to win the D-II title for whatever amount of time they are in D-II before being bumped up to D-I. There’s a lot of talent in that area. It’s gonna hurt Dutchtown the most, for sure.
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Post by gallstar on Feb 28, 2020 17:02:03 GMT -6
Prairieville Paddles for spanking their opponents butts and in the spirit of jambalaya.
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