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Post by firebruin on Jan 7, 2021 10:45:43 GMT -6
We all groan when we all see certain referees. Hell... when I am on a three man ref crew, I groan sometimes when I see who I am reffing with.
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Post by Soccerboy123 on Jan 7, 2021 10:56:34 GMT -6
We all groan when we all see certain referees. Hell... when I am on a three man ref crew, I groan sometimes when I see who I am reffing with. ššššššš
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Post by time2retire on Jan 7, 2021 10:56:45 GMT -6
Imagine how they feel when they see your name š¤£
Until new folks step up, youāll get the same referees. We all want to see new blood. Iām in my 25th year. I might have 25 more I might have 2 more. Whoās gonna take my place when Iām done?
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Post by beasleyisbeastly on Jan 7, 2021 11:06:52 GMT -6
This is a good thread. Iād like to add an idea: LSA should require all coaches (or at least club directors) to pass a referee course. Itās sad how often coaches simply donāt understand the laws and then tell their players that the referees donāt know what they are doing. If clubs would dedicate just one day a year to educating their coaches on the laws and update them on the law changes (which happen every year!!) it would make their coaching and ultimately their players better. Iāve won games before because I knew the laws.
Example: lots of players and coaches think you need a whistle to take a free kick. This simply isnāt the case. One time a keeper handled the ball outside the penalty area and I quickly put the ball down and kicked it in the goal. We won by 1 goal. I can still see how red the opposing teams coach was because he thought we needed a restart whistle to take the kick. If only he had known... maybe his players would have as well
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Post by time2retire on Jan 7, 2021 11:54:11 GMT -6
On that note, I have to give a shoutout to Episcopal BR boys coaches, who actually knew and understood the difference in handballs between club and HS
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Post by Skippers on Jan 7, 2021 12:02:35 GMT -6
On that note, I have to give a shoutout to Episcopal BR boys coaches, who actually knew and understood the difference in handballs between club and HS
Explain, please.
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Post by time2retire on Jan 7, 2021 12:16:11 GMT -6
On that note, I have to give a shoutout to Episcopal BR boys coaches, who actually knew and understood the difference in handballs between club and HS
Explain, please.
A ball was headed from a defender straight down into the arm of the attacker (natural position, not deliberate) who then shot and scored. In club this would be handling. In NFHS it is not.
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Post by uhscubs1 on Jan 7, 2021 12:20:21 GMT -6
This is a good thread. Iād like to add an idea: LSA should require all coaches (or at least club directors) to pass a referee course. Itās sad how often coaches simply donāt understand the laws and then tell their players that the referees donāt know what they are doing. If clubs would dedicate just one day a year to educating their coaches on the laws and update them on the law changes (which happen every year!) it would make their coaching and ultimately their players better. Iāve won games before because I knew the laws. Example: lots of players and coaches think you need a whistle to take a free kick. This simply isnāt the case. One time a keeper handled the ball outside the penalty area and I quickly put the ball down and kicked it in the goal. We won by 1 goal. I can still see how red the opposing teams coach was because he thought we needed a restart whistle to take the kick. If only he had known... maybe his players would have as well Maybe coaches should review NFHS/Club rule differences with players?
Maybe with parents as well?
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Post by time2retire on Jan 7, 2021 12:27:10 GMT -6
I offer a session (usually at the library but this year on zoom) for players and coaches and parents before the season to learn about HS differences and changes. Three years running, only two parents attended - and they were referees themselves at the time.
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Post by beasleyisbeastly on Jan 7, 2021 21:32:06 GMT -6
I offer a session (usually at the library but this year on zoom) for players and coaches and parents before the season to learn about HS differences and changes. Three years running, only two parents attended - and they were referees themselves at the time. Proof that the parents donāt care about knowing the rules. Itās much easier to blame the ref than accept that your kids sometimes just arenāt that good and that losing is a part of sports. One thing is for sure: if your team loses by multiple goals, one call isnāt going to fix your problem
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Post by gallstar on Jan 7, 2021 21:47:07 GMT -6
I offer a session (usually at the library but this year on zoom) for players and coaches and parents before the season to learn about HS differences and changes. Three years running, only two parents attended - and they were referees themselves at the time. Proof that the parents donāt care about knowing the rules. Itās much easier to blame the ref than accept that your kids sometimes just arenāt that good and that losing is a part of sports. One thing is for sure: if your team loses by multiple goals, one call isnāt going to fix your problem š but Beasley boy heās all district in District 7 of the LA high school soccer and his club coach said heās gonna start if he just grows 5ā more, puts on 35 pounds of solid muscle and gets a little okay a lot faster! Now why did timetoretire make that silly call on my Allstar?
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Post by Formerhcpops on Jan 7, 2021 22:39:58 GMT -6
I offer a session (usually at the library but this year on zoom) for players and coaches and parents before the season to learn about HS differences and changes. Three years running, only two parents attended - and they were referees themselves at the time. Proof that the parents donāt care about knowing the rules. Itās much easier to blame the ref than accept that your kids sometimes just arenāt that good and that losing is a part of sports. One thing is for sure: if your team loses by multiple goals, one call isnāt going to fix your problem Whoa, settle down there, sporto. "Proof that the parents don't care about knowing the rules..."? Why, because they didn't sign up for an unknown session at a library somewhere put on by screen name: "time2retire" from an obscure website completely unknown to the majority of Louisiana soccer parents? I don't think you have a parent problem, I think you have an expectation problem... and a marketing one. Sheesh.
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Post by time2retire on Jan 7, 2021 22:48:09 GMT -6
No expectations here. People either come or they donāt. But they canāt say it isnāt offered or they never had the opportunity to ask at least once a season.
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Post by Tank on Jan 8, 2021 7:27:17 GMT -6
Proof that the parents donāt care about knowing the rules. Itās much easier to blame the ref than accept that your kids sometimes just arenāt that good and that losing is a part of sports. One thing is for sure: if your team loses by multiple goals, one call isnāt going to fix your problem Whoa, settle down there, sporto. "Proof that the parents don't care about knowing the rules..."? Why, because they didn't sign up for an unknown session at a library somewhere put on by screen name: "time2retire" from an obscure website completely unknown to the majority of Louisiana soccer parents? I don't think you have a parent problem, I think you have an expectation problem... and a marketing one. Sheesh. Rawr.
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Post by Bish on Jan 8, 2021 8:14:30 GMT -6
Is the LHSAA still doing quotas for red cards? It was a real revenue generator in the 90s.
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Post by time2retire on Jan 8, 2021 8:42:34 GMT -6
Is the LHSAA still doing quotas for red cards? It was a real revenue generator in the 90s. Not sure how my school afforded it, I had to have cost them a pretty penny
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Post by time2retire on Jan 18, 2021 17:28:22 GMT -6
Great news - if you want to quickly certify as a referee, there will be two available Zoom sessions this weekend. You must complete the online coursework first. Minimum age 13 but we need adults also! learning.ussoccer.com/referee1) Create profile 2) Complete online coursework 3) Background check (18+) 4) Zoom session Experienced mentors provided at no additional cost to the referee in Houma/Raceland/Thibodaux Sample pay scale U10 - 25/15 U12 - 30/20 U13 - 35/25 (about to increase) U15 - 40/30 (about to increase) U17 - 50/40 (about to increase) Tournaments pay games plus comp hotel and meals/snacks at the tournament Getting started now is better than ever before. Bayou Soccer Referees would love to have you join. We also need referees in all other parts of Louisiana and there are great referee groups in Shreveport, Monroe, Alexandria, Lake Charles, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, Hammond, Northshore, and New Orleans.
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Post by hostia on Jan 18, 2021 18:51:30 GMT -6
This thread is nothing but defending soccer refs, which in general do horrible jobs officiating varsity level speed games here. I mean even jv level games are too much for a lot of refs. The training is awful, the assignments are awful, the job structure is awful as well. At the end of the day, it is a job that pays money and when you suck at your job there should be someone over looking and analyzing your performances to see if your fit for the job. We have 45 year old out of shape men centering varsity matches between top 20 schools, what is the expectation really. Want to know why former athletes that would make excellent refs, like ex collegiate and/or semi pro, do not follow through with it? Because they get bs assignments to do u-9, u-12, or jv games for an entire season when they are more than capable and knowledgeable to handle older age groups and varsity level. So they quit bc frankly those games are boring and not worth the pay for someone who sees the game at a different speed. Speaking both club and school here. And the biggest problem of all here in this state, is that there is this tyrannical authority power complex most refs seem to have, that they are always right, and questionable calls should never be questioned or challenged in any way. And lastly, 95% of refs i have come across here can not even properly run the field how a soccer ref is supposed to do throughout the game. A huge problem in u.s. soccer as a whole is officials. And officials influence player development more than anyone cares to talk about.
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Post by gallstar on Jan 18, 2021 19:00:12 GMT -6
This thread is nothing but defending soccer refs, which in general do horrible jobs officiating varsity level speed games here. I mean even jv level games are too much for a lot of refs. The training is awful, the assignments are awful, the job structure is awful as well. At the end of the day, it is a job that pays money and when you suck at your job there should be someone over looking and analyzing your performances to see if your fit for the job. We have 45 year old out of shape men centering varsity matches between top 20 schools, what is the expectation really. Want to know why former athletes that would make excellent refs, like ex collegiate and/or semi pro, do not follow through with it? Because they get bs assignments to do u-9, u-12, or jv games for an entire season when they are more than capable and knowledgeable to handle older age groups and varsity level. So they quit bc frankly those games are boring and not worth the pay for someone who sees the game at a different speed. Speaking both club and school here. And the biggest problem of all here in this state, is that there is this tyrannical authority power complex most refs seem to have, that they are always right, and questionable calls should never be questioned or challenged in any way. And lastly, 95% of refs i have come across here can not even properly run the field how a soccer ref is supposed to do throughout the game. A huge problem in u.s. soccer as a whole is officials. And officials influence player development more than anyone cares to talk about. š³
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Post by Skippers on Jan 18, 2021 19:25:23 GMT -6
This thread is nothing but defending soccer refs, which in general do horrible jobs officiating varsity level speed games here. I mean even jv level games are too much for a lot of refs. The training is awful, the assignments are awful, the job structure is awful as well. At the end of the day, it is a job that pays money and when you suck at your job there should be someone over looking and analyzing your performances to see if your fit for the job. We have 45 year old out of shape men centering varsity matches between top 20 schools, what is the expectation really. Want to know why former athletes that would make excellent refs, like ex collegiate and/or semi pro, do not follow through with it? Because they get bs assignments to do u-9, u-12, or jv games for an entire season when they are more than capable and knowledgeable to handle older age groups and varsity level. So they quit bc frankly those games are boring and not worth the pay for someone who sees the game at a different speed. Speaking both club and school here. And the biggest problem of all here in this state, is that there is this tyrannical authority power complex most refs seem to have, that they are always right, and questionable calls should never be questioned or challenged in any way. And lastly, 95% of refs i have come across here can not even properly run the field how a soccer ref is supposed to do throughout the game. A huge problem in u.s. soccer as a whole is officials. And officials influence player development more than anyone cares to talk about. Have you reffed? Asking for a friend. ā¤ļø A 45 year old fat guy trying to drop 100 pounds so I become a top notch ref in the state.
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