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Post by viewgator91 on Feb 22, 2021 15:53:49 GMT -6
If we are being technical, yes. In theory you could, but why would you do that? In practicality, at most, you could play club and then guest play with GST (or any team nation wide). BRSC I'm pretty sure are both US Club and US Youth, so without approval you can't play any sanctioned games with GST (unless they have something else?) and BRSC won't (and shouldn't) give that approval. I'm not sure about AFSC, the other club they asked about. Of these 3 clubs you should pick the one that best fits your needs and play for them. Viewgator....you are obviously tied into BRSC pretty good. Why would a club keep a player from guest playing with another team if it’s to the benefit of said player? This is about making players better. For a first season of the club, we had 5 full teams with many players of other ages just training. BRSC will let players guest play. When we were at a previous club, BRSC allowed a handful of kids to guest play with us on numerous occasions. Now that we are at BRSC, my kid has continued to guest play with another club, mainly in the off-season. I could get permission to guest play if it didn't take away from my team. Most kids don't because there isn't a need to as BRSC has provided us with ample opportunity to get better. Reasons to not let a kid guest play... injury prevention would be a big one. It would suck if a player were injured the weekend before a big league weekend and then unavailable for their team. Also, training 3+ nights a week and playing games could lead to a weekend of rest. Player can't rest if your are guest playing with your neighbor's team. There is a possibility that coaches have different philosophy of the game and not wanting training to be compromised, especially when younger and they are just picking up on tactics. Not playing appropriate competition level (adding ringers). Missing your own teams training or games? I would imagine there have been other things play into BRSC not signing off on kids guest playing in some situations. People are pretending like the only reason for BRSC not letting players guest is to hold other clubs back or that BRSC are afraid to lose their players?.!? None of this has been communicated to us as parents. The email I got concerning this is that there is a level of approval to go through that includes the appropriate chain of command...
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Post by soccerfraud on Feb 22, 2021 20:46:55 GMT -6
Viewgator, Politely speaking, you clearly have been misled. The Texans do not need to play in those leagues. Orlando is the only coach in the area that has been a head coach at the Division I college level, pro level, and has worked with a national team. The club has sent 8 players to the Dallas ECNL groups to train. Four were selected as discovery players and one 2005 boy has been asked to move there and play on the 2004 ECNL team. Orlando has also take three BRSC girls from an older team to Dallas to be assessed by their ECNL coaches. Each commented that BRSC has never done that for them. It's one thing to promote a club, it's another to write posts that are untrue. If you would like to see what the club is about, contact the director and visit. How many clubs out there tell their kids to go tryout with all clubs and see what fits them best? We know BRSC does not. GSC does, and Texans do. Go check out how they train and what they do. I am sure they will welcome you. Love how Orlando is talking about himself in the third person with his reply.............
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Post by PepGuardiola on Feb 22, 2021 21:05:37 GMT -6
Viewgator, Politely speaking, you clearly have been misled. The Texans do not need to play in those leagues. Orlando is the only coach in the area that has been a head coach at the Division I college level, pro level, and has worked with a national team. The club has sent 8 players to the Dallas ECNL groups to train. Four were selected as discovery players and one 2005 boy has been asked to move there and play on the 2004 ECNL team. Orlando has also take three BRSC girls from an older team to Dallas to be assessed by their ECNL coaches. Each commented that BRSC has never done that for them. It's one thing to promote a club, it's another to write posts that are untrue. If you would like to see what the club is about, contact the director and visit. How many clubs out there tell their kids to go tryout with all clubs and see what fits them best? We know BRSC does not. GSC does, and Texans do. Go check out how they train and what they do. I am sure they will welcome you. Love how Orlando is talking about himself in the third person with his reply............. You act like you know everything but I promise you don’t. 😂 I can personally tell you Orlando is not the one responding. You’re just salty that there are people who actually enjoy being a Texan and love being coached by the staff
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Post by Cooldaddy on Feb 22, 2021 23:43:07 GMT -6
Hey viewgator91. Tell the boys I said hello.
Oh, and don't mind me everyone. Now, where did I put that popcorn?
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Post by barca22 on Feb 23, 2021 0:25:32 GMT -6
Viewgator, Politely speaking, you clearly have been misled. The Texans do not need to play in those leagues. Orlando is the only coach in the area that has been a head coach at the Division I college level, pro level, and has worked with a national team. The club has sent 8 players to the Dallas ECNL groups to train. Four were selected as discovery players and one 2005 boy has been asked to move there and play on the 2004 ECNL team. Orlando has also take three BRSC girls from an older team to Dallas to be assessed by their ECNL coaches. Each commented that BRSC has never done that for them. It's one thing to promote a club, it's another to write posts that are untrue. If you would like to see what the club is about, contact the director and visit. How many clubs out there tell their kids to go tryout with all clubs and see what fits them best? We know BRSC does not. GSC does, and Texans do. Go check out how they train and what they do. I am sure they will welcome you. Love how Orlando is talking about himself in the third person with his reply.............
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Post by barca22 on Feb 23, 2021 0:25:52 GMT -6
Awesome, Louie! You figured it out!
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Post by viewgator91 on Feb 23, 2021 6:07:00 GMT -6
Hey viewgator91. Tell the boys I said hello. Oh, and don't mind me everyone. Now, where did I put that popcorn? Hey cooldaddy, The club side of this board is feeling like the HS side 🤣🍿
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Post by Cooldaddy on Feb 23, 2021 8:24:04 GMT -6
The club side of this board is feeling like the HS side 🤣🍿 Ahh, come on viewgator91. I thought gators had thick skin... just like your jorts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 10:47:26 GMT -6
Players should not be playing for other teams outside of their own club, according to LCSL recruitment guidelines. Examples of Improper Recruiting: Improper recruiting will include, but is not be limited to demeaning or degrading another club marketing or promoting one club in a manner calculated to target players of another club. permitting any player to train, practice or play with one club while the player registered with another club. offering to any player at any time any inducement to play. misrepresenting the potential benefits of playing for one club over another. Encouraging a team to move from one club to another. I understand there are exceptions, such as those players invited to play for ECNL teams, however, strictly speaking on guest playing for other Louisiana Clubs, the guidelines are pretty clear. Outside of club season is a different matter.
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Post by wildcatstriker on Feb 23, 2021 11:48:36 GMT -6
Players should not be playing for other teams outside of their own club, according to LCSL recruitment guidelines. Examples of Improper Recruiting: Improper recruiting will include, but is not be limited to demeaning or degrading another club marketing or promoting one club in a manner calculated to target players of another club. permitting any player to train, practice or play with one club while the player registered with another club. offering to any player at any time any inducement to play. misrepresenting the potential benefits of playing for one club over another. Encouraging a team to move from one club to another. I understand there are exceptions, such as those players invited to play for ECNL teams, however, strictly speaking on guest playing for other Louisiana Clubs, the guidelines are pretty clear. Outside of club season is a different matter. How are these rules enforced and by whom? I don’t believe all clubs follow these rules.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 12:13:30 GMT -6
How are these rules enforced and by whom? I don’t believe all clubs follow these rules. I'm not sure on the enforceability of the rules, other than by reporting it, and I'm sure it doesn't typically get reported, but it is a part of the LSA guidelines: I only know this because years ago, my son was invited to practice with another club when he was staying with his dad over a holiday break. It was honestly just to kick around with his friends and ODP teammates, and nothing more, but we found out later that it was something that is not allowed. Thankfully it was completely innocent and had nothing to do with the team trying to recruit him, but it's certainly not worth getting in trouble for. LSA Policy 212.4 establishes stringent penalties of improper recruiting including suspension of a coach for up to 3 years. It also provides for a fine up to $5,000.00 for the club. If a parent is found to have improperly recruited a player from another club, his or her conduct will be attributed to the club and the penalty assessed. All clubs are encouraged to educate their coaches, managers, parents and club administrators on the ethical standards regarding improper recruiting and to help maintain a sense of integrity in the game across Louisiana. www.playlouisianasoccer.org/lcsl/recruiting/
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Post by dme1214 on Feb 23, 2021 13:32:25 GMT -6
How are these rules enforced and by whom? I don’t believe all clubs follow these rules. I'm not sure on the enforceability of the rules, other than by reporting it, and I'm sure it doesn't typically get reported, but it is a part of the LSA guidelines: I only know this because years ago, my son was invited to practice with another club when he was staying with his dad over a holiday break. It was honestly just to kick around with his friends and ODP teammates, and nothing more, but we found out later that it was something that is not allowed. Thankfully it was completely innocent and had nothing to do with the team trying to recruit him, but it's certainly not worth getting in trouble for. LSA Policy 212.4 establishes stringent penalties of improper recruiting including suspension of a coach for up to 3 years. It also provides for a fine up to $5,000.00 for the club. If a parent is found to have improperly recruited a player from another club, his or her conduct will be attributed to the club and the penalty assessed. All clubs are encouraged to educate their coaches, managers, parents and club administrators on the ethical standards regarding improper recruiting and to help maintain a sense of integrity in the game across Louisiana. www.playlouisianasoccer.org/lcsl/recruiting/Where the lines get blurred on this are as follows: LSA only has enforcement power over clubs that are registered with them, under US Youth governing body. Orlando’s club is registered under US Club governing body, thus does not have follow any rules set by LSA. At the same time many of the clubs in the state have teams that are in both US Youth and US Club. Insured and governed as if they are 2 completely different teams. That is how teams were playing games outside of Louisiana before LSA allowed play under their governing authority (insurance) So technically a US Club team can do what it wants in terms of recruiting, for their US Club team only, even if it is also a US Youth team as well. ECNL is under US Club, that’s how the clubs are able to go to Dallas or wherever and play, regardless of permission by their US Youth run clubs.
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Post by justletkidsplay on Feb 24, 2021 19:23:20 GMT -6
Quit being jerks, just let the kids play where they want to play! Isn’t this about the kids? Y’all are ridiculous. This whole thread shows how folks are afraid of having the competition of the GST in the area. BRSC had their chance, they are failing miserably. Like my gramps always said, “Either poop or get off the pot”. Have a great night
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Post by Cooldaddy on Feb 25, 2021 9:14:51 GMT -6
Quit being jerks, just let the kids play where they want to play! Isn’t this about the kids? Y’all are ridiculous. This whole thread shows how folks are afraid of having the competition of the GST in the area. BRSC had their chance, they are failing miserably. Like my gramps always said, “Either poop or get off the pot”. Have a great night I liked your post... not because your opinion is that BRSC failed miserably, but because clubs don't own the players and they should be allowed to play where they want to. I've encouraged players to try out at other clubs... heck even as recent as last night. I've had players leave and stay gone and I've had players leave and come back. And trust me, no club takes a hit more than a small club when a player leaves and I'm not talking about the money side of things... I mean just trying to fill a roster. Either way, the kids are not possessions, they're young, impressionable people and 95% of them won't even play in college. As coaches, we should just enjoy the time we have with young players and hope that when they leave us, they have a stronger love for the game and are a better player than when they showed up on the first day. If we treat our players right, then they'll grow up and give back to the game themselves as coaches/refs/knowledgeable parents down the road and the sport continues to grow. That's what happened to me (having a coach as a positive role model) and that's the positive impact I feel all coaches should try to have on their players.
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Post by ski on Feb 25, 2021 9:38:50 GMT -6
Quit being jerks, just let the kids play where they want to play! Isn’t this about the kids? Y’all are ridiculous. This whole thread shows how folks are afraid of having the competition of the GST in the area. BRSC had their chance, they are failing miserably. Like my gramps always said, “Either poop or get off the pot”. Have a great night I liked your post... not because your opinion is that BRSC failed miserably, but because clubs don't own the players and they should be allowed to play where they want to. I've encouraged players to try out at other clubs... heck even as recent as last night. I've had players leave and stay gone and I've had players leave and come back. And trust me, no club takes a hit more than a small club when a player leaves and I'm not talking about the money side of things... I mean just trying to fill a roster. Either way, the kids are not possessions, they're young, impressionable people and 95% of them won't even play in college. As coaches, we should just enjoy the time we have with young players and hope that when they leave us, they have a stronger love for the game and are a better player than when they showed up on the first day. If we treat our players right, then they'll grow up and give back to the game themselves as coaches/refs/knowledgeable parents down the road and the sport continues to grow. That's what happened to me (having a coach as a positive role model) and that's the positive impact I feel all coaches should try to have on their players. Pull up a stool, I would like to buy you a drink/dinner.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 10:12:53 GMT -6
Quit being jerks, just let the kids play where they want to play! Isn’t this about the kids? Y’all are ridiculous. This whole thread shows how folks are afraid of having the competition of the GST in the area. BRSC had their chance, they are failing miserably. Like my gramps always said, “Either poop or get off the pot”. Have a great night I liked your post... not because your opinion is that BRSC failed miserably, but because clubs don't own the players and they should be allowed to play where they want to. I've encouraged players to try out at other clubs... heck even as recent as last night. I've had players leave and stay gone and I've had players leave and come back. And trust me, no club takes a hit more than a small club when a player leaves and I'm not talking about the money side of things... I mean just trying to fill a roster. Either way, the kids are not possessions, they're young, impressionable people and 95% of them won't even play in college. As coaches, we should just enjoy the time we have with young players and hope that when they leave us, they have a stronger love for the game and are a better player than when they showed up on the first day. If we treat our players right, then they'll grow up and give back to the game themselves as coaches/refs/knowledgeable parents down the road and the sport continues to grow. That's what happened to me (having a coach as a positive role model) and that's the positive impact I feel all coaches should try to have on their players. Well said! Not every club is for every child, and it's important to understand that when looking at your options. No need to bash anyone or any club. In fact, I think that most of the people on this thread were saying just that while stating why they preferred one club over another - which is exactly what the post was originally asking.
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Post by yallcrazy on Feb 25, 2021 10:35:44 GMT -6
Louisiana soccer is a pot of boiling crabs. If a crab gets near the top and has a chance to escape, the crabs on the bottom will always pull them back down.
While the rest of the country eats crab cakes with roumelade sauce.
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Post by viewgator91 on Feb 25, 2021 10:43:06 GMT -6
Quit being jerks, just let the kids play where they want to play! Isn’t this about the kids? Y’all are ridiculous. This whole thread shows how folks are afraid of having the competition of the GST in the area. BRSC had their chance, they are failing miserably. Like my gramps always said, “Either poop or get off the pot”. Have a great night I liked your post... not because your opinion is that BRSC failed miserably, but because clubs don't own the players and they should be allowed to play where they want to. I've encouraged players to try out at other clubs... heck even as recent as last night. I've had players leave and stay gone and I've had players leave and come back. And trust me, no club takes a hit more than a small club when a player leaves and I'm not talking about the money side of things... I mean just trying to fill a roster. Either way, the kids are not possessions, they're young, impressionable people and 95% of them won't even play in college. As coaches, we should just enjoy the time we have with young players and hope that when they leave us, they have a stronger love for the game and are a better player than when they showed up on the first day. If we treat our players right, then they'll grow up and give back to the game themselves as coaches/refs/knowledgeable parents down the road and the sport continues to grow. That's what happened to me (having a coach as a positive role model) and that's the positive impact I feel all coaches should try to have on their players. I think the answer most people gave is "find the club that fits your kid the best, this is why I like my situation" other than the GST homers said "I would give GST a chance because all the other clubs suck in comparison and don't offer what we offer" and again to drown out the negativity of opposing clubs, BRSC IS NOT FAILING! I couldn't be happier with our coach, teammates, parents, organization, fields, lights, sponsors, etc. In conclusion, do what's best for your kid! and every word cooldaddy says rings true... if I knew then what I know now (think back to those drafts where we drew cards and that determined our draft order) I would have not coached another team and just asked cooldaddy to coach both my boys. Hindsight...
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Post by viewgator91 on Feb 25, 2021 10:46:52 GMT -6
Quit being jerks, just let the kids play where they want to play! Isn’t this about the kids? Y’all are ridiculous. This whole thread shows how folks are afraid of having the competition of the GST in the area. BRSC had their chance, they are failing miserably. Like my gramps always said, “Either poop or get off the pot”. Have a great night Don't the kids/parents have the choice EVERY summer to pick which club they want to play for the following year? Nobody is holding a fire to anyone's feet saying don't play for this club or that club. I already pointed out a paragraph of reasons why clubs may not want their players weekend hoping clubs.
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Post by lasoccerbaw on Mar 3, 2021 16:54:59 GMT -6
Louisiana soccer is a pot of boiling crabs. If a crab gets near the top and has a chance to escape, the crabs on the bottom will always pull them back down. While the rest of the country eats crab cakes with roumelade sauce. Can I shake your hand?
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