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Post by futbalfan on Mar 5, 2021 20:23:52 GMT -6
So where are the fruits of the Alabama ECNL model? Like before they had it they had 1 player/year from AL get a college soccer scholarship and now they have 10 players/year.
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Post by lasoccerbaw on Mar 5, 2021 21:46:02 GMT -6
So where are the fruits of the Alabama ECNL model? Like before they had it they had 1 player/year from AL get a college soccer scholarship and now they have 10 players/year. I don’t know if those are the numbers, but if so, that sounds like a pretty worthwhile jump for me.
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Post by yallcrazy on Mar 6, 2021 9:38:26 GMT -6
One large 501C can acquire smaller 501C’s since it is all a not-for-profit transaction. Churches do it all the time.
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Post by futbalfan on Mar 6, 2021 14:51:48 GMT -6
So where are the fruits of the Alabama ECNL model? Like before they had it they had 1 player/year from AL get a college soccer scholarship and now they have 10 players/year. I don’t know if those are the numbers, but if so, that sounds like a pretty worthwhile jump for me. I like the idea but wondering if it’s actually paying dividends for Bama.
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Post by griff024 on Mar 6, 2021 17:36:23 GMT -6
I don’t know if those are the numbers, but if so, that sounds like a pretty worthwhile jump for me. I like the idea but wondering if it’s actually paying dividends for Bama. MLS Next team - meetings are underway with MLS and Dynamo. .... BRSC, Fire, Laf. Dynamo- combined team Boys first , expect to start girls after ...GA may go away That’s what I’m told anyway .... very soon , fingers crossed , would be great Word should be getting out
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Post by lasoccerbaw on Mar 6, 2021 17:46:53 GMT -6
I like the idea but wondering if it’s actually paying dividends for Bama. MLS Next team - meetings are underway with MLS and Dynamo. .... BRSC, Fire, Laf. Dynamo- combined team Boys first , expect to start girls after ...GA may go away That’s what I’m told anyway .... very soon , fingers crossed , would be great Word should be getting out You’re kidding.... MLS NEXT should theoretically be higher quality than ECNL You just made my day griff024
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Post by firebruin on Mar 6, 2021 21:47:11 GMT -6
The Alabama FC results at the 08B age group are pretty weak. A couple of the age groups look great though.
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Post by shadowman06 on Mar 7, 2021 10:40:53 GMT -6
I like the idea but wondering if it’s actually paying dividends for Bama. MLS Next team - meetings are underway with MLS and Dynamo. .... BRSC, Fire, Laf. Dynamo- combined team Boys first , expect to start girls after ...GA may go away That’s what I’m told anyway .... very soon , fingers crossed , would be great Word should be getting out This happens....it’s the biggest achievement in Louisiana Soccer ever!! Basically, it’s the very first Louisiana “DA” or true Academy in Louisiana!! Forget about ECNL!!
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Post by yallcrazy on Mar 7, 2021 15:36:36 GMT -6
GA isn’t going away. It’s currently the best option on the girls side. ECNL rules are too restrictive for a statewide Louisiana team, boys or girls. So MLS sounds like best option on boys side. But no matter what League is chosen, it is obvious that Louisiana needs to create ONE superteam in order to compete with the rest of the country.
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Post by griff024 on Mar 7, 2021 19:39:44 GMT -6
GA isn’t going away. It’s currently the best option on the girls side. ECNL rules are too restrictive for a statewide Louisiana team, boys or girls. So MLS sounds like best option on boys side. But no matter what League is chosen, it is obvious that Louisiana needs to create ONE superteam in order to compete with the rest of the country. We were turned down for ECNL for not having a viable travel partner and it was not for lack of talent, The talent list presented from the clubs mentioned was impressive.... ECNL is tops for girls still and MLS would like to change it. Not sure how AL does it ...
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Post by futbalfan on Mar 8, 2021 7:11:09 GMT -6
GA isn’t going away. It’s currently the best option on the girls side. ECNL rules are too restrictive for a statewide Louisiana team, boys or girls. So MLS sounds like best option on boys side. But no matter what League is chosen, it is obvious that Louisiana needs to create ONE superteam in order to compete with the rest of the country. Which ones can still play HS soccer of: ECNL MLS Next GA
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Post by yallcrazy on Mar 8, 2021 7:32:17 GMT -6
GA yes ECNL yes MLS not sure
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Post by shadowman06 on Mar 8, 2021 7:39:27 GMT -6
GA isn’t going away. It’s currently the best option on the girls side. ECNL rules are too restrictive for a statewide Louisiana team, boys or girls. So MLS sounds like best option on boys side. But no matter what League is chosen, it is obvious that Louisiana needs to create ONE superteam in order to compete with the rest of the country. Which ones can still play HS soccer of: ECNL MLS Next GA Which League provides a better chance to be seen by D-1 College Coaches and possibly receive a scholarship to play D-1 College Soccer? I know it’s not Louisiana High School Soccer.
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Post by lasoccerbaw on Mar 8, 2021 7:50:42 GMT -6
GA yes ECNL yes MLS not sure MLS - no high school soccer
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Post by vistajay on Mar 8, 2021 8:41:29 GMT -6
"Nobody wants to play on a "B" team for long. The moment parents realize that their kid has no real “future” in soccer because they didn’t make the top team, the enrollment checks stop. Why would a sane person spend all that time and money for all that travel ball if there is no big prize at the end of the rainbow? Just for a sense of companionship and teamwork? That's what high school ball is for."
I can only hope this was sarcastic. No one plays club ball because they love soccer and enjoy being on the team? There are 5 LA Fire boys teams in 02/03. Someone better tell them and their parents that their college dreams of playing for Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice are in jeopardy.
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Post by shadowman06 on Mar 8, 2021 9:18:29 GMT -6
"Nobody wants to play on a "B" team for long. The moment parents realize that their kid has no real “future” in soccer because they didn’t make the top team, the enrollment checks stop. Why would a sane person spend all that time and money for all that travel ball if there is no big prize at the end of the rainbow? Just for a sense of companionship and teamwork? That's what high school ball is for." I can only hope this was sarcastic. No one plays club ball because they love soccer and enjoy being on the team? There are 5 LA Fire boys teams in 02/03. Someone better tell them and their parents that their college dreams of playing for Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice are in jeopardy. Hmm. Interesting thought process there! It looks like the die has been cast. Will Soccer in Louisiana take the next step? Will people within the game work for “The Greater Good” for the current and future players in this State? Will the Parents of the boys wishing to play at a respectable College Program be educated enough to make the right decisions? It should be interesting! The Brass Ring may soon be presented...will they reach out to grab it???
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Post by yallcrazy on Mar 8, 2021 9:52:56 GMT -6
"Nobody wants to play on a "B" team for long. The moment parents realize that their kid has no real “future” in soccer because they didn’t make the top team, the enrollment checks stop. Why would a sane person spend all that time and money for all that travel ball if there is no big prize at the end of the rainbow? Just for a sense of companionship and teamwork? That's what high school ball is for." I can only hope this was sarcastic. No one plays club ball because they love soccer and enjoy being on the team? There are 5 LA Fire boys teams in 02/03. Someone better tell them and their parents that their college dreams of playing for Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice are in jeopardy. If a player's dream is to play at Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice, that should be supported 100% and never denigrated. But were some of those players really dreaming of playing at Duke and ended up at those schools through no fault of their own, but because the system is biased against them in Louisiana? Everybody's "big prize" is different and unique to them and should be respected. Problem occurs when you mix players who want to play D2 with players who want to play top D1, the level of training, sacrifice, and the required league of play are entirely at odds. That's the point of this thread, separating out the kids who want to play high level D1 to give them a fighting chance at THEIR dream. And the very attempt to do so angers the people who don't have that ambition. Are those 5 Fire teams constructed so that all of the top talent is concentrated on one team?
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Post by vistajay on Mar 8, 2021 11:07:57 GMT -6
"Nobody wants to play on a "B" team for long. The moment parents realize that their kid has no real “future” in soccer because they didn’t make the top team, the enrollment checks stop. Why would a sane person spend all that time and money for all that travel ball if there is no big prize at the end of the rainbow? Just for a sense of companionship and teamwork? That's what high school ball is for." I can only hope this was sarcastic. No one plays club ball because they love soccer and enjoy being on the team? There are 5 LA Fire boys teams in 02/03. Someone better tell them and their parents that their college dreams of playing for Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice are in jeopardy. If a player's dream is to play at Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice, that should be supported 100% and never denigrated. But were some of those players really dreaming of playing at Duke and ended up at those schools through no fault of their own, but because the system is biased against them in Louisiana? Everybody's "big prize" is different and unique to them and should be respected. Problem occurs when you mix players who want to play D2 with players who want to play top D1, the level of training, sacrifice, and the required league of play are entirely at odds. That's the point of this thread, separating out the kids who want to play high level D1 to give them a fighting chance at THEIR dream. And the very attempt to do so angers the people who don't have that ambition. Are those 5 Fire teams constructed so that all of the top talent is concentrated on one team? There is a top team for 02, and another for 03. The other 3 teams are what you'd call "B" teams. No disrespect to those trying to play at a higher level or improve LA soccer, but to insinuate that those who do not play for the top team at each club end up quiting soccer is just not accurate.
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Post by yallcrazy on Mar 8, 2021 11:29:08 GMT -6
For the girls side it is completely accurate. The team numbers drop significantly for the oldest age groups. For boys side, are the three other B teams 02's or '03s? And are you saying that it is understood that the "B" team players are playing for fun only? Or is there still some idea that there could be higher level college soccer in their future? My point is simply that the creation of multiple diluted teams is a marketing smash success for the clubs. That's where their money is, and congrats to Fire as a business for pulling it off. But that doesn't help the elite players get to the next level, which is what this thread is about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 11:37:06 GMT -6
"Nobody wants to play on a "B" team for long. The moment parents realize that their kid has no real “future” in soccer because they didn’t make the top team, the enrollment checks stop. Why would a sane person spend all that time and money for all that travel ball if there is no big prize at the end of the rainbow? Just for a sense of companionship and teamwork? That's what high school ball is for." I can only hope this was sarcastic. No one plays club ball because they love soccer and enjoy being on the team? There are 5 LA Fire boys teams in 02/03. Someone better tell them and their parents that their college dreams of playing for Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice are in jeopardy. If a player's dream is to play at Spring Hill or LSU-Eunice, that should be supported 100% and never denigrated. But were some of those players really dreaming of playing at Duke and ended up at those schools through no fault of their own, but because the system is biased against them in Louisiana? Everybody's "big prize" is different and unique to them and should be respected. Problem occurs when you mix players who want to play D2 with players who want to play top D1, the level of training, sacrifice, and the required league of play are entirely at odds. That's the point of this thread, separating out the kids who want to play high level D1 to give them a fighting chance at THEIR dream. And the very attempt to do so angers the people who don't have that ambition. Are those 5 Fire teams constructed so that all of the top talent is concentrated on one team? Well said - it's always a challenge when you have players who truly want to play at the top level, and even on their D1 team, the commitment is not 100% there from ALL of the players and parents. Realistically speaking only a few are willing to do more to be more, and it definitely hinders the ability of the committed players (here in LA) to have opportunities to play in front of prospective D1 coaches.
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