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Post by upper90 on Aug 2, 2021 15:29:45 GMT -6
USA boy. I don’t get it. I read how all these boys are playing MLS next to develop and compete and showcase themselves for colleges scouts. And according to you. We should shut down HS and college. Lol. This is hilarious m Because the college system is still the most used path to get noticed at that age level. Back in the day, it was Prop 40. Now, the MLS clubs are developing youth development. It may not be here yet, but that is the future of US soccer. As time goes by, college and high school soccer will become more irrelevant. And, as you see in NCAA athletics overall across all sports, it is antiquated and forced to change . They can make all the changes they want. The writing is on the wall. Amateur athletics is the old way to go. Again, no other country besides maybe Canada, relies on school systems to develop their players. We aren’t relying on school systems to develop players. And haven’t in a long time (at least 20 years of heavy reliance on high level Academies). But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t development in those school systems. Less than 1% of HS athletes go pro. I don’t coach for the 1%, although I’d love to have one of those athletes. I coach for the other 99%, and hope to develop not only their soccer ability, but the skills they’ll need in life. Your views of youth athletics are, quite frankly, disgusting. Your views on youth development aren’t groundbreaking. They’re short sighted. You want better soccer in this country? Create a soccer culture where kids who aren’t going professional don’t feel like they’re not wanted. |
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Post by usasoccerboy on Aug 2, 2021 18:09:06 GMT -6
m Because the college system is still the most used path to get noticed at that age level. Back in the day, it was Prop 40. Now, the MLS clubs are developing youth development. It may not be here yet, but that is the future of US soccer. As time goes by, college and high school soccer will become more irrelevant. And, as you see in NCAA athletics overall across all sports, it is antiquated and forced to change . They can make all the changes they want. The writing is on the wall. Amateur athletics is the old way to go. Again, no other country besides maybe Canada, relies on school systems to develop their players. We aren’t relying on school systems to develop players. And haven’t in a long time (at least 20 years of heavy reliance on high level Academies). But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t development in those school systems. Less than 1% of HS athletes go pro. I don’t coach for the 1%, although I’d love to have one of those athletes. I coach for the other 99%, and hope to develop not only their soccer ability, but the skills they’ll need in life. Your views of youth athletics are, quite frankly, disgusting. Your views on youth development aren’t groundbreaking. They’re short sighted. You want better soccer in this country? Create a soccer culture where kids who aren’t going professional don’t feel like they’re not wanted. 1. This is the view of USA soccer and MLS. Leave the personal insults at home, because all they do is reflect on you, not me your intended target. I did not create MLS nor did I create MLS Next. As for your personal reasons for coaching, great, that is on you, but that does not mean the professional system shares your view. You may think that because only the 1% go pro argument justifies you not trying to develop better soccer players and justify being Okay with that, the USSF looks at such a system and says, this is not good enough and in fact, hampers us when it comes to player development compared with other countries. 2. Kids in school soccer are already shown they are not wanted. Where did all the Soccer programs in this state go after title 9? I tell you where. In the shitter, because they did not want you. The NCAA wanted women, not men to play soccer so they created a system to keep their supremacy in football, basketball, and baseball ahold in the south East, but every school in the south seems to have a Division I women’s program. A pro development system does not rely on some bureaucrat in an school office to give you a chance. Any player from anywhere can compete and prove his merits on the field, for if he is good enough, it will come out being shown on the field in OPEN competition, not a closed system which is exactly what school soccer is. |
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Post by dualdellortos on Aug 2, 2021 18:50:48 GMT -6
We aren’t relying on school systems to develop players. And haven’t in a long time (at least 20 years of heavy reliance on high level Academies). But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t development in those school systems. Less than 1% of HS athletes go pro. I don’t coach for the 1%, although I’d love to have one of those athletes. I coach for the other 99%, and hope to develop not only their soccer ability, but the skills they’ll need in life. Your views of youth athletics are, quite frankly, disgusting. Your views on youth development aren’t groundbreaking. They’re short sighted. You want better soccer in this country? Create a soccer culture where kids who aren’t going professional don’t feel like they’re not wanted. 1. This is the view of USA soccer and MLS. Leave the personal insults at home, because all they do is reflect on you, not me your intended target. I did not create MLS nor did I create MLS Next. As for your personal reasons for coaching, great, that is on you, but that does not mean the professional system shares your view. You may think that because only the 1% go pro argument justifies you not trying to develop better soccer players and justify being Okay with that, the USSF looks at such a system and says, this is not good enough and in fact, hampers is when it comes to player development compared with other countries. 2. Kids in school soccer are already shown they are not wanted. Again, where did all the Soccer programs in this state go after title 9? I tell you where. In the shitter, because they did not want you. The NCAA wanted women, not men to play soccer so they created a system to keep their supremacy in football, basketball, and baseball ahold in the south East, but every school in the south seems to have a Division I women’s program. A pro development system does not rely on some bureaucrat in an school office to give you a chance. Any player from anywhere can compete and prove his merits on the field, for if he is good enough, it will come out being shown on the field in OPEN competition, not a closed system which is exactly what school soccer is. At some point in time, everyone has to make choices in life. Here, we have a situation where players are having to decide between taking a path that may lead to a shot at making it as a professional or going a different route that includes playing high school soccer and maybe lose a chance at playing as a professional. No path guarantees a professional career. One path guarantees all the fun and experience of representing your school and playing in front of your school mates. When you look at the number of players that would be giving up HS soccer in LA to play MLS Next, do you think they really understand that maybe 1 or 2 might make it out of ALL the age group teams combined? And that 1 or 2 is still not a hard guaranteed number. MLS Next, like the USSF Academy program before it, relies on the 99% who won’t make it to push the 1% that MIGHT make it. If your child is good enough, an MLS team will find them and offer to take them to their club, put them up, get them in school, and prepare them until they no longer see a future for them. Is it worth it to the 99% who don’t make it? Only each kid can make that decision. But MLS Next need to be honest and tell them that possibly none of them will ever sniff a pro career. People whose livelihood depends upon parents paying them $$$ for their child’s “best shot at the making it to the highest level.” After almost 35 years in the biz, I know how this story ends far too often. |
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Post by tlabat on Aug 2, 2021 21:01:26 GMT -6
We aren’t relying on school systems to develop players. And haven’t in a long time (at least 20 years of heavy reliance on high level Academies). But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t development in those school systems. Less than 1% of HS athletes go pro. I don’t coach for the 1%, although I’d love to have one of those athletes. I coach for the other 99%, and hope to develop not only their soccer ability, but the skills they’ll need in life. Your views of youth athletics are, quite frankly, disgusting. Your views on youth development aren’t groundbreaking. They’re short sighted. You want better soccer in this country? Create a soccer culture where kids who aren’t going professional don’t feel like they’re not wanted. 1. This is the view of USA soccer and MLS. Leave the personal insults at home, because all they do is reflect on you, not me your intended target. I did not create MLS nor did I create MLS Next. As for your personal reasons for coaching, great, that is on you, but that does not mean the professional system shares your view. You may think that because only the 1% go pro argument justifies you not trying to develop better soccer players and justify being Okay with that, the USSF looks at such a system and says, this is not good enough and in fact, hampers is when it comes to player development compared with other countries. 2. Kids in school soccer are already shown they are not wanted. Again, where did all the Soccer programs in this state go after title 9? I tell you where. In the shitter, because they did not want you. The NCAA wanted women, not men to play soccer so they created a system to keep their supremacy in football, basketball, and baseball ahold in the south East, but every school in the south seems to have a Division I women’s program. A pro development system does not rely on some bureaucrat in an school office to give you a chance. Any player from anywhere can compete and prove his merits on the field, for if he is good enough, it will come out being shown on the field in OPEN competition, not a closed system which is exactly what school soccer is. You seem like you’d be real fun at parties. |
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Post by usasoccerboy on Aug 3, 2021 7:04:12 GMT -6
1. This is the view of USA soccer and MLS. Leave the personal insults at home, because all they do is reflect on you, not me your intended target. I did not create MLS nor did I create MLS Next. As for your personal reasons for coaching, great, that is on you, but that does not mean the professional system shares your view. You may think that because only the 1% go pro argument justifies you not trying to develop better soccer players and justify being Okay with that, the USSF looks at such a system and says, this is not good enough and in fact, hampers is when it comes to player development compared with other countries. 2. Kids in school soccer are already shown they are not wanted. Again, where did all the Soccer programs in this state go after title 9? I tell you where. In the shitter, because they did not want you. The NCAA wanted women, not men to play soccer so they created a system to keep their supremacy in football, basketball, and baseball ahold in the south East, but every school in the south seems to have a Division I women’s program. A pro development system does not rely on some bureaucrat in an school office to give you a chance. Any player from anywhere can compete and prove his merits on the field, for if he is good enough, it will come out being shown on the field in OPEN competition, not a closed system which is exactly what school soccer is. You seem like you’d be real fun at parties. You seem to be invested in a schools system that doesn’t care about you. |
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Post by futbalfan on Aug 8, 2021 10:31:17 GMT -6
So waiver requests have to be submitted to MLS Next by each individual player that wants to play HS. If granted, the player can join HS team when MLS Next done in Dec.
Has anyone submitted waiver request as of yet and have any been granted?
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Post by dualdellortos on Aug 8, 2021 17:12:19 GMT -6
You seem like you’d be real fun at parties. You seem to be invested in a schools system that doesn’t care about you. And what is the PURPOSE of youth sports in our society (country/schools)? It is absolutely NOT to develop athletes for professional sports. That is a natural by-product, NOT the PURPOSE. |
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Post by usasoccerboy on Sept 2, 2021 18:43:25 GMT -6
You seem to be invested in a schools system that doesn’t care about you. And what is the PURPOSE of youth sports in our society (country/schools)? It is absolutely NOT to develop athletes for professional sports. That is a natural by-product, NOT the PURPOSE. Maybe that is the case with traditional American sports like Basketball, football, and baseball that restrict young high school age players breaking into the professional ranks, but in soccer, if you can win a World Cup by starting a player at age 17, you do that and hopefully win a World Cup like Brazil did in 1958. What is evident is people who do not care about their own national teams want to dictate how those national teams develop their players so that they can keep a fantasy of being influential or a determinant in another individual’s development. I just read the news of MLSNext’s first weekend of matches and first off what seemed evident was the level of competition already seemed better than what Louisiana soccer can offer. I do not hate Louisiana school soccer, but unlike most of you, I have seen the shady BS the LHSAA and NCAA has pulled off in order to suppress soccer in the deep southern states. Football will always rule supreme to soccer when it comes these organizations. There is no benefit adhering to a restrictive bureaucratic organization that has no interest to better YOUR game, but only to control it. One day, I would like to see a Louisiana player on a USA national team. I do not think we can get there with our current system. It will change sooner or later whether you want it to or not. Open play is where I think developed players should come from. The LHSAA is the complete antithesis to open play and the game in my 40 years of playing, coaching, and watching it from the beginning days of this state has seen little progress other than more rural schools getting programs. That is something good, but that is not enough. I will follow personally whether it is school or open play, because I am a soccer fan first, not a fan of schools. As a state, we have always languished compared to the other states and I have had USSF A licensed coaches tell me repeatedly, that Louisiana does not register on their radar. To them, there is nothing here to see. I have been told that Houston has more players than the entire state of Louisiana so it is a good thing when I read MLS Next is competing against Houston, Tx area teams as well as other areas. That in and of itself is an improvement over high school soccer in Louisiana. My favorite sports team has always been the USAMNT. I rather watch them than the New Orleans Saints, Pelicans, LSU, Tulane, Nicholls State, etc. and I like all of those teams. I was lucky enough to watch the first competition of the USAWNT when they played in Baton Rouge around 1984. We went to those games, because in those days, any soccer coverage was a treat when you lived in Louisiana. One thing I do think we have is a good website to talk about local soccer. LaPrepSoccer is to be commended for giving us a place to open up dialogues about soccer. But, as usual, dialogues bring out the sophists and I love taking them on any day, whether the topic is soccer, politics, science, or anything else. |
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Post by firebruin on Sept 4, 2021 19:08:38 GMT -6
3 home games with 2 at Burbank and 1 in Shreve??? So that is 24 away or neutral matches out of the 26 since Shreve is still a 4.5+ hour trip for the majority of the players.
Huge competitive advantage for every team in the league against our boys.
Guess.it still shows how bad people think of us that we can't even get a few more true home/away matches. 😂😂😂
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Post by wildcatstriker on Sept 4, 2021 21:59:28 GMT -6
3 home games with 2 at Burbank and 1 in Shreve??? So that is 24 away or neutral matches out of the 26 since Shreve is still a 4.5+ hour trip for the majority of the players. Huge competitive advantage for every team in the league against our boys. Guess.it still shows how bad people think of us that we can't even get a few more true home/away matches. 😂😂😂 Disingenuous if you don’t include away/neutral of other teams. |
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Post by firebruin on Sept 5, 2021 3:12:41 GMT -6
Well, San Antonio has 13 true home matches....  |
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