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Post by toolshed2 on Mar 9, 2006 19:34:04 GMT -6
When will the All State team for DIII be announced and who should make the team?
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Post by geauxgators on Mar 9, 2006 20:27:33 GMT -6
Ross Thevenot, St. Louis; of course.
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Post by cajunman1 on Mar 10, 2006 8:05:29 GMT -6
Brook Boudreaux, Teurlings Catholic.
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Post by adidastunit7 on Mar 10, 2006 11:50:00 GMT -6
Oscar Giron , Christian Life
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Post by adidastunit7 on Mar 10, 2006 11:50:15 GMT -6
Brandon Mong, Uhigh
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Post by mctalkstomuch on Mar 10, 2006 12:20:39 GMT -6
who is with me on the issue that ross theriot is over rated. He was completly shut down against newman. I can not believe he got the gatorade award. to compare he to the other st louis players to come before him is a joke.
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Post by Bish on Mar 10, 2006 13:48:05 GMT -6
Like compared to who? He's a solid player. He turned an average St. Louis team into an undefeated State Championship team. Seriously, if you take him off the roster, they don't win a state championship. He's that influential of a player. Give some evidence of him being overrated. So what if Newman "shut him down." It happens sometimes. Maybe he just had a bad game.
I bet you're the same type of person who said Jason Garey was overrated in high school.
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Post by cajunman1 on Mar 10, 2006 13:55:03 GMT -6
I'm a Teurlings fan and Thevenot looked awesome to me! Give him some credit, he was very productive. It's hard to compare kids from earlier yrs that played.
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Post by coachray40 on Mar 10, 2006 19:44:17 GMT -6
who is with me on the issue that ross theriot is over rated. He was completly shut down against newman. I can not believe he got the gatorade award. to compare he to the other st louis players to come before him is a joke. your name says it all-- and his name is Thevenot gotta go with Bish--Thevenot is the shizzle my nizzle
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Post by wreckerman on Mar 11, 2006 2:15:36 GMT -6
He is expected to be--- played premier longer than any1 that played on the field this year in DIII (at least for finals).. you could only expect play like he has from playing select longer and learning more things than younger premier/rec players
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Post by oldphart on Mar 11, 2006 6:49:11 GMT -6
In a great defensive game, 1-0, he didn't score and because of that he's overrated? If that is the case then nobody at Newman should be all state. It is also safe to say that Newman, and everybody else, tried to shut him down.
On the other hand, as good as Ross is, he was not alone. No forward is responsible for 25 shutouts. Give some love to the guys behind him.
I hope you enjoyed him on the pitch because he will be kicking oblong balls from now on.
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Post by Bish on Mar 11, 2006 11:17:29 GMT -6
I'm only stating the truth. He may not be completely responsible, but he had a big enough part in it, that if you take him off the team, it doesn't happen. That's how I see it. It was obvious in the finals when he was out of the game for a few minutes. The ball was getting slammed down STL's throat because there was nobody in the offense to take control of the game.
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Post by littletimmy on Mar 12, 2006 2:10:55 GMT -6
i normally just read this board for the hilarious content. but after reading this recent posts i had to jump in. i kicked the soccer ball around a bit in my day and against the st. louis st teams teams that started this whole dynasty talk. st. louis was always a stacked team, a D1 calibar team playing D3. at least in my judgement compared against teams we played. seeing the current state a D3 soccer, which given that st lou went undefeated and beat a top D1 team ill apply to the entire field, soccer was stronger in recent years passed. this st lou team was by no means the best st louis team ever so theres no need to talk about best team ever. however, if you saw them play, thevenot, or theriot, him being on the field made the team better than it was. his presence forced defensive concentration away from everyone else, including the mediocre to slightly above average irvin. calling him overrated and underserving is unjustified, calling the team that against this years competition is also unjustified, against years past....okay. Based on what I saw and what I believe MVP to be defined as, he fits the mold for this season with no questions asked. Ill take the next step and say that what he helped this team accomplish this year, given that Ive seen the previous "dynasty" years, he's also the alltime MVP of st louis. thats my opinion on this subject, but id like to tie into the coaching subjects as well. while st lou's oretling is a great motivator, he does not make any player better over thier course at st louis, if talent is not there, he could go all-defeated for a season as easily as he goes undefeated. Any credit he's gotten over the years should be immediately deflected to his stacked teams. If st louis did not exist, D1 barbe would have gotten all the dynasty talk st louis did. For st louis in years past, the coach could have been a st lou soccer mom who filled up cups of water and cut oranges, and she would racked up as many coach of the years as oretling.
i cant wait to read the responses, if any
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Post by swla on Mar 13, 2006 6:13:33 GMT -6
How is St Louis Stacked? They had 1 U-18 premier, 3 U-17 premier, and 2 U-16 premier players on this years team. The rest are rec. When Lapira played they only had 4 premier players on that team, noway stacked. Thevenot worked his tail off against Newman and that was a team win.
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Post by takeitdowntown1 on Mar 13, 2006 9:26:52 GMT -6
How is St Louis Stacked? They had 1 U-18 premier, 3 U-17 premier, and 2 U-16 premier players on this years team. The rest are rec. When Lapira played they only had 4 premier players on that team, noway stacked. Thevenot worked his tail off against Newman and that was a team win. They were stacked with many more premier players in the 90's and had a larger talent pool of kids on the teams back then. Now I think that they have less premier players but they probably have more premier players when compared to other teams around the state. Also, without Thevenot this team was a semi-final team at best. He took this team to the next level and made up for the lack of premier players.
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Post by littletimmy on Mar 13, 2006 17:12:15 GMT -6
I think "takeitdowntown1" pretty much got the idea but to clarify, premier soccer in Lake Charles is almost dead if not on it's last couple of breaths. There hasnt been a significant premier team "consistent state contender" in LC in at least a decade. That doesn't mean that St. Lou's teams werent made up of premier calibar players, they just didn't play premier for whatever reason. With that in mind, compared to the D3 field survery says st. louis = stacked.
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Post by q on Mar 13, 2006 20:52:02 GMT -6
I think that we all appreciate it if "littletimmy" would go back to reading the messages instead of replying to them.
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Post by Bish on Mar 13, 2006 21:08:14 GMT -6
I think that we all appreciate it if "littletimmy" would go back to reading the messages instead of replying to them. Who do you think you are speaking for everybody here? I've never even seen you post before! He makes a great point. If you disagree, why don't you tell us why. Oh wait, you can't because you don't know what you're talking about.
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Post by littletimmy on Mar 13, 2006 21:40:24 GMT -6
Mr "Q", while doing my reading I can across some of your work. Here's a few excerpts to jog your memory:
"You would think that St. Louis has a chance to move up. 25 shutouts in a season must be close to a national record."
"If he started in 94, then he has coached for 13 years. Which means his teams would have to average around 23 wins a year, which I'm sure that St. Louis had done. "
"There was an article in the Lake Charles paper that said the St. Louis coach won his 300th game with their playoff win against St. Frederick. So I guess he has 302 now."
"If he started in 94, then he has coached for 13 years. Which means his teams would have to average around 23 wins a year, which I'm sure that St. Louis had done. "
Judging by these nuggets of wisdom you seem to be a little partial to ole St. Lou and the coaching staff. This is an open forum not a St. Lou appreciation site. If your problem was with the Theriot "also known as thevenot" comments I'm sure we'd love to hear your opinion on the greatest. Note: make an effort to exclude oretling from player considerations if you can.
If the coaching comments tickled your fancy "which judging by your previous posts it seems your the go to source on the ole ball coach and his wins losses and sideline attire - I mean no harm by that, I know it's very tempting to just read the quotes off your st. louis articles collage." be a little objective and give some consideration to the fact a school that in the past inherited the best talent in LC might be winning off that talent, and not the tutaledge of a coach with no experience outside of high school soccer, at least in my premier experience I don't recall him pacing any sidelines.
A small aside, if "q" is a tie to the James Bond series, I'm big fan of the gadget man myself.
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Post by timaeus on Mar 13, 2006 22:25:19 GMT -6
I've watched high school soccer for 15 years, and this was the most talented year overall. Each year someone gets on here and says, "This year was not as strong as years past." For some years they are correct, but not this one.
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