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Post by timaeus on Feb 8, 2007 10:15:40 GMT -6
Never before has a program been so mediocre and yet received so much publicity. It's very telling of the perennial strength (weakness) of Division II that ASH could become a "household name" in LA prep soccer. DIII teams like Country Day, Westminster, and Menard, whom we rarely hear about probably would be competitive against ASH over the past ten years.
It would behoove both DII and DIII if they would join together again.
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Post by soccermadness10 on Feb 8, 2007 10:25:28 GMT -6
I have to agree here, after attending ASH for 4 years the program was never outstanding by any means however I think that if they can make it to the semifinals again and put in a good performance then people should show a little more respect at what's been accomplished. They have a new coach this year who actually played soccer up to the college level and is really putting a lot into the program, and there is a good group of players coming up soon and I really am hoping they can establish themselves as a solid program barring the coach sticks around
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Post by cougarfan on Feb 8, 2007 10:32:30 GMT -6
Don't bust on ASH for making it to the quarters. It is not their fault their opponent screwed up.
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Post by timaeus on Feb 8, 2007 10:37:06 GMT -6
Didn't ASH beat St. Thomas More last year?
I have a feeling that if ASH and St. Thomas More played in Division III neither team would regularly make it to the Semifinals, and STM would have zero state championships right now.
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Post by PutMeInCoach2 on Feb 8, 2007 10:42:54 GMT -6
Didn't ASH beat St. Thomas More last year? I have a feeling that if ASH and St. Thomas More played in Division III neither team would regularly make it to the Semifinals, and STM would have zero state championships right now. I wouldn't go that far. STM has a pretty good squad, and I do think they could compete at the top of DIII
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Post by soccermadness10 on Feb 8, 2007 10:48:24 GMT -6
Your probably right, hey to add to that, I doubt either one of 'em would make it that far in Division I either. So what is your point. Nobody cares about Division II anyways right? It's not any team in DII's fault that they are in it. So why is it important that you take the time out to put down teams and programs, at least ASH have made the improvement in hiring a REAL soccer coach that know how to improve a program. I think if you paid any attention to them, which I doubt you did because they play in Division II and don't have a good reputation, you would've seen that for the first time they played with a passing style of soccer rather than just kicking and chasing it, and it was accomplished with a young group of players that will be around next year to keep improving. Sorry that Division II is not full of action or excitement like the other two, and sorry it's generally easier to determine who will win state, but that's how it's always been so I think you might be out of place to say anything degrading about any team's programs. I just fail to see the point of your statement
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Post by cougarfan on Feb 8, 2007 11:08:14 GMT -6
Schools have to play who they have to play. STM, ASH, whoever have to play D2 schedules. If it were up to STM, they would have moved to D1 years ago. The last few years, only 1 D2 team has been consistently better than STM and that is Vandy. It just so happens that with the screwed soccer brackets, they had to meet in the semis every year. And with this particular squad at STM, I expect them to compete with Jesuit next year for the title. The 9 juniors that started at STM this year have never lost freshmen or JV games to LHS Acadiana or Cro, so they will probably surprise some people.
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Post by norecognition69 on Feb 9, 2007 8:15:11 GMT -6
hey timaeus, you prolly shouldn't pick on teams just because they've been placed in d2. it's not their fault they went to the semi's last year and you know what i might go as far as to say it's not even their fault they're in the quarters this year. what's your beef against ash. yeah they're prolly not that great but they step up when it counts and that's what it's all about. i guess i just don't really understand why you're so perturbed that ash has become "household" on laprep. that's kinda what happens when you perform well in the playoffs.
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Post by norecognition69 on Feb 9, 2007 8:23:35 GMT -6
oh...what about st. fred's. if you're talking about a team that's overpublicised they're the head of the nail for God's sake. or what about parkway? how did you decide that ash is the one that's so awful. i don't even go to ash but i'll stick up for any team that has as good of a future as they do. watch timaeus, just watch and i promise you they will contend for a championship next year. i wouldn't expect something like this from you. i usually agree with you. just please, do some research next time before posting something so derogitory towards a whole program, school, and in some ways the entire community.
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Post by cougarfan on Feb 9, 2007 9:56:58 GMT -6
If I was an ASH supporter, I wouldn't worry a whole lot about what someone from Chalmette says about your program. Chalmette? Come on....
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Post by soccermadness10 on Feb 9, 2007 12:49:36 GMT -6
Exactly right...ASH have a good future, if anybody knows their coach at all you'll know that he's got a good soccer background. I know of a few freshman coming up who have been involved with the ODP setup and putting them with a good coach will really get the wheels turning for them. I agree, just wait and see, so what if they don't win a championship, I sure as hell think they'll be putting up a fight for the next few years, and putting in some good performances. I question Timaeus's position on this site as an administrator after than comment...
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Post by 13thtrojan on Feb 9, 2007 20:43:56 GMT -6
Thanks for the support.
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Post by el3absoccer on Feb 9, 2007 21:38:30 GMT -6
Lee or ASH? who goin to get it?
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Post by 13thtrojan on Feb 9, 2007 22:01:19 GMT -6
ASH will win 2-0.
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Post by die4socca99 on Feb 9, 2007 22:04:52 GMT -6
Timaeus dont you think its odd that ash made it to they semis and now to atleast the quarters i mean yes its not like they are super talented but they get the job done and in the end, thats what counts, and plus this year they have 1 senior starter and are still making it this far, imagine what will happen next year or the year after, i think that you saying ash is mediocre is false and you will be very suprised in the years to come, so i'm not dissing you or being negative but next time think about what your gonna say before you make false posts
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Post by upper90 on Feb 9, 2007 23:06:25 GMT -6
If I remember right, ASH has never really been less than decent. I know they used to field some good teams back in the late 90's and early 2000's.
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Post by runthevariable on Feb 10, 2007 11:42:58 GMT -6
it's always been like this guys... ASH has been overlooked because of the rec background. Southern LA teams think that because they win so much down south that teams like ASH can't compete. But the truth is that this is high school soccer and the ASH - STM game should have proven that to everyone. A group of athletic guys that love the sport are able to compete with all-stars from the south because they have heart and won't give up just because people say they aren't worth the time. why do you think STM never schedules games with ASH?? because they don't think ASH can compete. Every team has its up and its downs because you can't come back the next year with the exact same team. So i think that if people want to go prove they are the best in the state, they should stop looking at this post and go out and practice. I think Division II is all about competition and leaving everything on the field. Go on. Put ASH in Division 1 or 3. and when you do youll notice ASH might lose 90% of their games but every D1 or D3 team will know they walk on and off the field with their heads high. ASH has heart. and sometimes that's all you need
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Post by guru on Feb 10, 2007 12:12:59 GMT -6
Wow Timmy!
Looks like you kicked an ant hill...
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Post by theotherforward10 on Feb 10, 2007 13:09:29 GMT -6
very well put runthevariable
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Post by 13thtrojan on Feb 10, 2007 20:46:44 GMT -6
I have a question. Why ASH? Out of all the """""mediocre""""" Division II teams, why would you say ASH is the least deserving to be considered good? What about Lee, Pineville, Vandebilt, STM, Loyola, Ben Frankling, East Ascension, and DeRidder. I guess they all suck as well, just because they made it far in the playoffs. I'm sorry if ASH offended you, Timaeus, by having a good season. We'll be sure to change our district and division next year so we can play some real, quality D1 and D3 teams. OH WAIT, WE CAN'T.
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