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Post by DREDG03 on Mar 11, 2005 21:21:11 GMT -6
may 28.
who is going to win?
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Post by GrobbenK on Mar 12, 2005 0:19:52 GMT -6
This is a tough one....well no. It isn't lol. Being a loyal England fan I am going with them no matter what. A lot of their players on in top form right now, joe cole, owen (when he gets to play), wright phillips, terry, lamps, gerrard, rooney. They're playing incredibly well for their club teams so it's looking very good. As for the USA, well...sorry but I don't think they have the quality right now to compete against top European teams. Sure they beat Columbia, but they barely beat trinidad. The only thing they have going is that they play well at home. That could have a major impact on the game, I wish I could get to Chicago, it'd be my dream come true.
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Post by usasoccerboy on Mar 12, 2005 16:17:55 GMT -6
England are not as much as their hype. USA will bet them 2-0 and then the England fans will cry that is only a friendly. USA has an unbeaten streak right now at 15. Last loss was 1-0 in Holland. And as to saying that the USA barely beat Trinidad, that is a big stretch as the USA were in control of that game.
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Post by GrobbenK on Mar 13, 2005 0:01:39 GMT -6
I'm not hyping England, they have had some tough times lately. But I cannot stand the USA, I try to like them but I can't. For example, the USA lose and what happens? Nobody cares, they get no stick, and their coach has no clue about the real soccer world. I was in England when they lost to Spain 1-0. They got SLAMMED. It was horrible. Every paper had something to say about their poor performance, so a lot more people are watching and there to criticise. The US team have it sooo easy. And I'm only picking England because of the form of late of most of their starting 11. Some of them are having the season of their careers. It's just hard to see the USA winning, and definetly with a shutout at that!
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Post by DREDG03 on Mar 13, 2005 14:03:42 GMT -6
England 1 USA 2
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Post by fliestguy00 on Mar 17, 2005 10:40:20 GMT -6
are you kiddin me? u cannot compare the usa to england....they two completely different levels of soccer
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Post by Crip4Lyf on Mar 17, 2005 16:20:47 GMT -6
elaborate......
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Post by usasoccerboy on Mar 18, 2005 18:49:18 GMT -6
Yea, they are so far apart that they both finished as quarterfinalist at the last world cup.
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Post by upper90 on Mar 18, 2005 19:38:18 GMT -6
why do a lot of people think that usa is not on the same level as england or any other european country?? they were both quarterfinalists in world cup '02 as usasoccerboy said...there can't be that much of a difference in talent...usa is in the top 10 teams hands down..i say usa wins 2-1
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Post by Crip4Lyf on Mar 18, 2005 19:42:53 GMT -6
It's either ignorance or they don't like change. ;D
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Post by LaPlaceFootballer7 on Mar 20, 2005 15:03:34 GMT -6
Im a US fan but England will probably win but i will go for the us. We all know that star players mean little in such a team game.
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Post by DREDG03 on Mar 29, 2005 14:07:42 GMT -6
after the mexico game i'd say there is a bit of difference in our talents v. england. they have got the better players but will we have the better team. We'll find out soon but it only matters in Germany WC 06
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Post by coachray40 on Mar 29, 2005 16:29:21 GMT -6
The reason people think the US isnt in the same league as England is because they arent. Recent Evidence--US game vs Mexico was a disaster--nice job of defending there with the flat back 4 , and how about that potent attack Bruce Arena put out there for the US--was the US actually playing with 11 players? Oops, I forgot--it was the altitude that beat us. Guess that explains why Reyna was huffing and pufing like a two-pack-a-day middle aged father of two, and Donovan was wandering around like a scared momma's boy, looking for his friends and girlfriend to make the mean Mexican people go away and leave him alone (the same way he does any where the US plays except for his new home at the Home Depot Center).Was that was the best team the US could put on the field for a)the biggest soccer rival the US has in CONCACAF, b)a crucial away game in the final round of World Cup Qualifying(the US is soooo good on the road right?-remember Costa Rica & Grenada?) and c) at the toughest Stadium the US has to play in anywhere in the World?--there have been like 14 presidents since the US has been playing in Mexico City and none have ever seen the US win there. Doesnt matter what happens--English FA initially has already stated they wont be bringing a lot of the top stars (No Owen, Beckham, or Rooney), so the outcome will be pointless. Brits obviously want a way to poo-poo away a potential loss to the US--wouldnt that be a kick! SGE wouldnt find a safe place to live in the British Isles if Her Majesty's 11 were to drop one to the Yanks! Any way, after watching the uninspired team we placed on the field(I'm a freakin AMERICAN ya'll-its a field not a pitch) at the Azteca, I dont look for much better against England. St Georges Cross 3, Stars and Stripes 1
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Post by upper90 on Mar 29, 2005 19:42:41 GMT -6
i have to admit..the game against mexico was terrible..horrible defence...c'mon the guy was wide open in the middle..kasey keller is just too old to play..PUT TIM HOWARD IN! donovan did look a bit lost out there..eddie johnson did not play good at all..where's mcbride? well all i have to say is..the US has to play WAAAAYYYY better to even stand a chance against the Brits..c'mon guys..pick it up!
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Post by GrobbenK on Mar 30, 2005 7:29:57 GMT -6
Well said Coachray. I'm glad the US lost the other day to Mexico, they didn't deserve to win there. But come on, altitude has nothing to do with it. Reyna and Donovan both have not played enough for their club teams. Reyna has played I think one game since returning from injury that's kept him out almost the whole season, and Donovan simply isn't good enough to play in Germany so he doesn't get good game time. I don't know why people hype about him, he's the one player I cannot stand because he's a wuss. Nothing more can be said about him. The US were lucky not to lose that one by more, and Bruce Arena really needs to figure out what he's doing before he plays another game, which I believe is today. The players that have really been producing are the products of English clubs or other clubs abroad. Keller, Beasley, Reyna when fit, McBride, Bocanegra. He should stop playing all these MLS players because his true talent lies in the players that play against the top class players. I'd rather have a defender who plays against Henry and the likes over a defender who plays against MLS people I've never heard of. And how can you stop somebody's career like Eddie Johnson? The guy's got skill, I'll admit. Let him get out of the MLS and go play where he can have a challenge and improve. WIth England's current form and a good performance tonight, combined with US's lack of fight and basically poor performances, England 4-0 if they play some good players, probably 1 or 2 if they don't.
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Post by LaPlaceFootballer7 on Mar 30, 2005 16:27:44 GMT -6
wait did you say that you were glad the us lost or did some one else. cause if it wasnt you my bad.
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Post by LaPlaceFootballer7 on Mar 30, 2005 16:30:44 GMT -6
coach ray doesnt know beans about "football", if you call it soccer then you dont know truly about the game.
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Post by upper90 on Mar 30, 2005 17:07:01 GMT -6
hey you need to calm down man..don't diss coach ray over here..from what i hear he is a great coach and a great person..he's knows his stuff about soccer..stop gettin in here and start going off on people..we have the right to voice our own opinions and so do you..you may think usa played good..we don't think they played good...that's that
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Post by coachray40 on Mar 30, 2005 22:55:00 GMT -6
dude are you freakin anti american. i dont like mls that much but whenever the us team plays im always for them. dude what is your problem. you act like you wanted mexico to win. and you go play in that LSU is #1in smog and you tell me how easy it LSU is #1ing is to breathe. ive been there and the smog is a www.studio8.net. so you need to stop dissing the us national team. First off, genius, my comment about the altitude (notice--no mention of smog) was a sarcastic one aimed at the inevitable excusemaking that would come from the US national team coaching staff after the poor performance on Sunday. Everytime the US plays poorly the "Arenaspeak" that explains it away is some gibberish that never deals with the fact that the team played like crap. After tonights "big" win over Guatemala, I'm sure we will hear the praise of our team as though they are gods once again. As for anti american and the whole football thing--I was born and raised in Jersey and moved to Louisiana. I drink Budwieser drink, fly my american flag on my porch on the forth of July, listen to country music, and stood there crying watching the towers come down on 9/11. In the US its soccer--football gets played on saturdays and sunday in the fall by big guys with helmets. I'm not trying to internationalize the game by calling cleats "boots", a field a "pitch", or soccer "football". And if ya dont like that you can kiss my whitetrash redneck red-white-and-blue arse! Whenever the US is playing I am for MY COUNTRY--but I have the right in MY COUNTRY to not be satisfied with half rate crap put on the field. We are a country of 290 million people--the most technologically advanced nation in the world, with the largest and most developed youth soccer training system on the planet, yet we still struggle to beat small latin American countries in SOCCER with our boring unimaginative play. After being a soccer player in the 60's and 70's before soccer was cool, and watching the US get slammed by T & T and the Netherlands Antilles, I have the right to not want to see us backslide because of some poorly organized primadonna talent and coaches. If I think they sucked, I will say so because I'm tired of waiting yet another 4 years for the US Soccer Ferderation to promise us that we will have a world cup winner in "another 4 years."(2010 project now has 5 years left--are we really getting closer--I dont think so) So with that in mind, go grab your eurosport magazine, turn on fox soccer channel and get forcefed the US soccerblurb accepting the mediocre expectations presented to you by our COUNTRY'S coaching staff and then wonder why we still struggle to beat 3rd world countries whose GNP is smaller than our training budget for our national team. To be a true American is to EXPECT GREATNESS from everything our country does--even soccer.
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Post by Mung on Mar 31, 2005 8:46:30 GMT -6
Well said CoachRay. This country was built on dissent, by people who refused to accept the status quo, and went out and made changes. Dissent has continued to force change from the government, despite the complaints that naysayers lack patriotism. If we don't accept mediocrity from the US Soccer Team, then let them know it. That said, I truly enjoyed the game last nite, and the team played well, but if they suck, why ignore it?
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