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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 14:07:37 GMT -6
I'm not picking on home schooled kids here.
It's just that the whole justification for home schooling is to give individual attention and (in most cases) shield children from 'bad elements' that may or may not exist locally.
Either in private or public school?
I would think that playing a scholastic sport would just be a sacrifice that has to be made.
In other words, the local schools don't measure up. But their sports team sure does!
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Post by goat on Oct 13, 2010 7:59:50 GMT -6
I'm not picking on home schooled kids here. It's just that the whole justification for home schooling is to give individual attention and (in most cases) shield children from 'bad elements' that may or may not exist locally. Either in private or public school? I would think that playing a scholastic sport would just be a sacrifice that has to be made. In other words, the local schools don't measure up. But their sports team sure does! Agree 100%. Your school is not good enough for Johnny but your soccer team (or any other sport), is!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 10:07:59 GMT -6
Like so many issues in our society. Common sense is thrown out the window. "Rhetoric" wins again.
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Post by YellKeeper on Oct 13, 2010 11:04:51 GMT -6
I agree completely. If you're not affiliated with the school, why are you allowed to play a sport for them? Stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 12:39:30 GMT -6
Because someone whined! Quite loudly apparently!
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Post by engo7 on Oct 14, 2010 14:57:37 GMT -6
Hall, nice to see you coming to the dark side and recognizing the power and allure of highschool soccer in this state.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2010 15:45:50 GMT -6
engo7, from you I'll consider that a compliment!
High school soccer is about glory, peer recognition and community. Nothing wrong with that. Scholastic soccer gives the sport 'credibility'.
Club soccer helps develop players. Giving us fans a better "product" to watch!
Frankly both need each other.
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Post by Ronaldinho on Oct 14, 2010 18:19:11 GMT -6
Hall definitely has a point. Without the club development of players, high school soccer wouldn't even be close to the game you currently see. Clubs are where these players learn the game, at least the best players. On the other hand, high school soccer keeps many, many kids in the sport because of how much enjoyment they get out of it, and without it fewer kids would keep their interest in club soccer as they get older. So those who hate the clubs and are only in it for their high school teams, and also those who despise the schools for "wasting" their precious club months, need to appreciate the value of the other side, regardless of which part of the season you prefer.
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Post by engo7 on Oct 14, 2010 20:55:51 GMT -6
Hall definitely has a point. Without the club development of players, high school soccer wouldn't even be close to the game you currently see. Clubs are where these players learn the game, at least the best players. On the other hand, high school soccer keeps many, many kids in the sport because of how much enjoyment they get out of it, and without it fewer kids would keep their interest in club soccer as they get older. So those who hate the clubs and are only in it for their high school teams, and also those who despise the schools for "wasting" their precious club months, need to appreciate the value of the other side, regardless of which part of the season you prefer. :DTried to like this but then realized, this is not facebook.
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Post by thekidd101 on Oct 27, 2010 19:15:17 GMT -6
if you have to play 8th graders then you should end your program.
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Post by shot stopper on Oct 27, 2010 20:09:17 GMT -6
thekidd101,
thats not necessarily true, maybe the 8th grader is just a really good ball player
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Post by soccerfan8 on Oct 28, 2010 7:00:16 GMT -6
With all the club soccer that is being played, kids are getting better at a younger age. I agree that in some cases the physical part of the High School game may be to much for an 8th grader, but at this age in a kids life one 8th grader that is six months older than another 8th grader could be a huge difference. I know of a couple of top 10 teams in DIII last year that had some 8th graders play a significant amount of time and helped their team. They did not play because of being short numbers, they played because they were advanced enough to help the team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 7:43:13 GMT -6
If the 8th grader is 4"11, slow and has average to bad technique, then yes, he is in danger and a liability on the field.
Notice I didn't say anything about speed?
On the other hand, if he is of reasonable size AND has excellent technique and vision, then his age is of very little consequence.
It depends on position too. A central mid that is playing 1 and 2 touch passes doesn't really require a lot of speed or size anyway. (Anyone ever hear of Xavi from Barcelona?) Of course this type of player requires an excellent holding midfielder to do all the dirty defensive work and ballwinning.
An 8th grader playing central defender might be an issue for debate.
If you're good enough then obviously you are "old" enough!
I've seen a majority of high school players that, while they may be solid athletes are horrible technically and tactically.
In fact, their skill level is no better than the typical U13/14 premier level player. This is the problem with soccer.
If you want to play other sports, fine. Nothing wrong with that.
Soccer is not a sport that you can play well by just playing 3 or 4 months out of the year!
You can't play for a few months and then put the ball away for 6 months.
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Post by shot stopper on Nov 5, 2010 21:52:20 GMT -6
i think that the 8th graders should have to wait to play like the rest of us had to. just saying.
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Post by rossr1016 on Feb 4, 2017 19:19:43 GMT -6
I started varsity soccer in 8th grade at 13 years old and was a very physical player. I also wasn't a big player at all.. Tall and wirey. I don't see anything wrong with it and my school was only in the same school district but wasn't the same school. If a kid has the Will power and the skill then let em play. It will make his game much better.
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Post by laffysoccermom on Feb 4, 2017 21:23:44 GMT -6
If they do, their parents should have to sign a waiver that they will not complain about their kid being pushed. When my daughter played on JV boys as a freshman girl, many parents were whining about her bumping their 7th or 8th grader. I found it funny especially when it was directed at her.
Btw- it wasn't the boys just their parents.
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Post by soccernation95 on Feb 4, 2017 23:20:16 GMT -6
I agree completely. If you're not affiliated with the school, why are you allowed to play a sport for them? Stupid. probably a parent got mad that their son didn't make the team and that an eighth grader did so that's why he's whining🤷🏽♂️
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Post by lebeaujeu on Feb 5, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -6
Personal experience with a son who started as an 8th grader. It was GOOD for him. In club, his skill level and tactical knowledge was up to par for his age, but he lacked physical play and aggressiveness. Playing center-mid, he had to learn how to be tough and hold his own not to get knocked off the ball. It also helped his confidence (that he could compete against the older guys), and allowed him the opportunity to be mentored. He was playing with and against some of the older kids that he admired in club. In fact, at Senior night this year, his favorite high school soccer memory, "winning in double over-time in playoffs my 8th grade year." He assisted the golden goal.
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Post by swami on Feb 5, 2017 11:06:22 GMT -6
No
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Post by snoopy1 on Feb 5, 2017 11:59:14 GMT -6
No. Stupid rule. Every 8th grader should be eligible regardless where he goes to school or nobody. If everybody, then pass some kinda rule where 8th grader could commit to a high school. If goes to another in his city, he is ineligible in 9th grade.
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