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Post by barbedad20 on Feb 1, 2011 16:51:05 GMT -6
Not to toot my own horn (which I always do!!) but here is my post of the Div I seeds vs how they actually came out. The largest spread was +/- 2. I must say I am pretty awesome!! ;D ;D | BARBEDAD | ACTUAL | | 1 | Mt Carmel | Mt Carmel | | 2 | St Thomas More | St Thomas More | | 3 | Fontainebleau | Mandeville | | 4 | Mandeville | Fontainebleau | | 5 | SSA | SSA | | 6 | Dominican | Dominican | | 7 | Lafayette | Lafayette | | 8 | West Monroe | West Monroe | | 9 | St Joe's | St Joe's | | 10 | Dutchtown | Northshore | | 11 | Byrd | Dutchtown | | 12 | Northshore | Byrd | | 13 | Baton Rouge | Baton Rouge | | 14 | Caddo Magnet | East Ascension | | 15 | East Ascension | Caddo Magnet | | 16 | St Amant | Acadiana | | 17 | Acadiana | Westgate | | 18 | Terrebonne | St Amant | | 19 | Westgate | Terrebonne | | 20 | Chapelle | Chapelle | | 21 | Capt Shreve | Captain Shreve | | 22 | Natch Central | Natch Central | | 23 | Barbe | Comeaux | | 24 | Comeaux | Zachary | | 25 | Zachary | Live Oak | | 26 | Bonnabell | Barbe | | 27 | Live Oak | Central Lafourche | | 28 | Central Lafourche | Bonnabell | | 29 | Pineville | Pineville | | 30 | HL Bourgeouis | HL Bourgeouis | | 31 | John Ehret | John Ehret | | 32 | Grace King | Grace King |
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Post by a9imus on Feb 1, 2011 19:18:57 GMT -6
You definitely know your girls soccer. So, tell me, why did you and the coaches vote MCA #1 over STM? Just looking at results... STM had a better record and beat MCA head-to-head? MCA had 3 losses and 2 ties. STM had 1 loss and 1 tie. What am I missing???  |
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Post by barbedad20 on Feb 1, 2011 19:44:54 GMT -6
You definitely know your girls soccer. So, tell me, why did you and the coaches vote MCA #1 over STM? Just looking at results... STM had a better record and beat MCA head-to-head? MCA had 3 losses and 2 ties. STM had 1 loss and 1 tie. What am I missing??? I have gone back and forth on these two and it could definitely been STM 1 and MCA 2. What the slight difference for me was the strength (or lack of) schedule. I know STM can not do anything about district play just like Laf in District 3 but STM had a weak Jan. Strength of Schedule: Mt Carmel: Quality Wins: St Joe's x 3, Dutchtown, Lafayette, SSA, Fontainebleau, St Louis, Dominican x 2, Vandebilt x 2 Loss: St Thomas More, Sacred Heart x 2 Strength of Schedule: St Thomas More Quality Wins: St Louis, Lafayette, Mt Carmel, Dominican, Fontainebleau Loss: Mandeville Tie: SSA |
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Post by a9imus on Feb 1, 2011 20:09:28 GMT -6
Hmmm...So a HEAD-TO-HEAD WIN doesn't count for anything?
STM played a similar schedule....MCA, FHS, SSA, Lafayette, Dominican, St. Joes...+St. Louis
MCA had 3 LOSSES and 2 TIES. That's 5 non-wins...and the 2 wins over Dominican were in PKs (really ties).
And they are seeded #1? over a team with 1 loss and 1 tie that beat them???
I just don't see how anyone, looking at this objectively, could rank MCA #1.
I guess I need to go back to BOYS SIDE where Jesuit is #1, and the teams they beat are below them.
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Post by soccerB on Feb 1, 2011 20:28:13 GMT -6
I would like to thank you for doing this. there was so little stats done on the girl side compared to the boys side this list was very helpful.
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Post by BVB 09 on Feb 1, 2011 21:08:31 GMT -6
Besides a9imus I don't see or here any static from St Thomas More about their seeding. It seems to be a quit confidence that they don't care where they are ranked untill the end? Besides, it's kind of like the BSC; as long as you're 1 or 2 how much does it really matter. You are the team to beat on your side of the bracket.
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Post by a9imus on Feb 1, 2011 21:16:49 GMT -6
For STM, the seeding doesn't really matter. Whether they're 1 or 2...3 or 4, I'm sure they don't care. That's not my point here.
On the boys side, there were some who wanted to move Lafayette over St Pauls after SPS lost. I argued that SPS should stay #2..they had a better record and beat Lafayette head-to-head.
Really just trying to understand what voters are thinking when they vote.
Like my wife says...I just like to argue. Especially with Barbedad ;D
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Post by sokerfan on Feb 2, 2011 8:34:44 GMT -6
I agree with a9imus on 1 hand and barbedad on the other. Having played both of them (LAF) I think Mt. Carmel was a tougher team for us than STM was. It is a matchup problem. I think STM had MT. Carmel's number, I think with Laf it is a head thing with Mt. Carmel.
If you take barbedad's argument though, the teams in the FHS,SSA, Mandy district have the hardest schedule so they will always have the edge. But again he had Northshore ranked 12th. I think they should be as high as 8th or 9th.
barbedad20 what are you thinking?
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Post by barbedad20 on Feb 2, 2011 11:53:19 GMT -6
I agree with a9imus on 1 hand and barbedad on the other. Having played both of them (LAF) I think Mt. Carmel was a tougher team for us than STM was. It is a matchup problem. I think STM had MT. Carmel's number, I think with Laf it is a head thing with Mt. Carmel. If you take barbedad's argument though, the teams in the FHS,SSA, Mandy district have the hardest schedule so they will always have the edge. But again he had Northshore ranked 12th. I think they should be as high as 8th or 9th. barbedad20 what are you thinking? That's just it... I don't think too much into it. On the Northshore thing. Other than the district schedule they played no one else. So they have not beaten any top teams. I think Dutchtown is a sleeper team so I have them higher. And if the seeds hold true you will have NS playing SSA in the 2nd round. Do not like seeing that. Just like having district opponents playing for the 3rd time in the 1st round of the playoffs. But this system is 100% better than the preset brackets we had 3 years ago. |
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Post by sokerfan on Feb 2, 2011 12:03:34 GMT -6
barbedad20, you will have Northshore playing Lafayette in the second round. I didn't want to see that, I think they will be dangerous. Still think we can win but not the second round game you would want. I think it will be the toughest second round game out there.
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Post by barbedad20 on Feb 2, 2011 12:17:45 GMT -6
barbedad20, you will have Northshore playing Lafayette in the second round. I didn't want to see that, I think they will be dangerous. Still think we can win but not the second round game you would want. I think it will be the toughest second round game out there. You are correct, I was looking at mine and not actual. That will be a tough 2nd round game but at Lafayette. Also 2nd round could have SSA vs Dutchtown. Both should be great 2nd round games that could go either way. 1st round should hold to top seeds with maybe 17 over 16 and that is about it. |
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Post by NutMeg on Feb 2, 2011 12:39:43 GMT -6
barbedad20, you will have Northshore playing Lafayette in the second round. I didn't want to see that, I think they will be dangerous. Still think we can win but not the second round game you would want. I think it will be the toughest second round game out there. You are correct, I was looking at mine and not actual. That will be a tough 2nd round game but at Lafayette. Also 2nd round could have SSA vs Dutchtown. Both should be great 2nd round games that could go either way. 1st round should hold to top seeds with maybe 17 over 16 and that is about it. Barbedad - Second Round match-up is possibly Dominican vs. Dutchtown |
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Post by barbedad20 on Feb 2, 2011 12:41:55 GMT -6
You are correct, I was looking at mine and not actual. That will be a tough 2nd round game but at Lafayette. Also 2nd round could have SSA vs Dutchtown. Both should be great 2nd round games that could go either way. 1st round should hold to top seeds with maybe 17 over 16 and that is about it. Your right, cannot count. Dominican vs Dutchtown in the 2nd round would be a heck of a game. Barbedad - Second Round match-up is possibly Dominican vs. Dutchtown |
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