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Post by sportfan on Feb 6, 2011 22:11:40 GMT -6
I think Copa did a great job with Shreve this year but I don't think they deserve a playoff game. This is not t-ball where everyone gets a trophy. It is always about the money though. Just look at the scores from the 1st round. Right now there are not 32 teams that deserve to be in the playoffs. I don't think that having the top 3 teams in each district is the best way. It should be based on true power rankings. I think the top 18 teams in Division I would make for a pretty good playoff.
Not sure if Shreve would have made it. In their 4 games this season Byrd beat them by a combined score of like 27 to 6 and 3 of the 6 came in the 1st week of the season and Byrd will probably 1 and done again this year.
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Post by soccerB on Feb 6, 2011 22:17:42 GMT -6
There is discussion on this site regarding placing the champs from particular districts in the playoffs. Where is the logic of placing a 3rd place team with a losing record (including defeats by D-II teams) in the playoff bracket? I will take the bait since I know you are a Shreveport poster and my team is the 3rd place team who made the playoffs with a losing record, including losing to a few D2 teams. Please tell me why my girls don't deserve to play a playoff game. The reason we have a losing record is because we are an inexperienced team with a coach (me), that knows if you don't play good teams you don't get better. Because of this I scheduled Byrd 3 times, STM twice, Neville, Loyola, DeRidder, etc and other teams that I knew would be tough but appropriate competition. It would be very easy to make up a schedule where we have a good winning record with inferior teams in North LA. What does that get my team developmentally? Nothing. So if you would like the playoffs to be district winners only or the top 12 teams in the state, then that's fine but the North LA teams need to be prepared to go home after round 1 almost every year. My Shreve girls lost 4-0 to a good Byrd team and enjoyed their playoff experience. That's a good enough reason for me. While money is a driving factor in all things, you get out what you put in. I will use this experience with my team to get them experience in a higher pressure game and we will continue on a path of improvement and have a great time along the way. I apologize if my team wasted anyones time or money today. We know we are small fish in a small pond but hard work, teamwork, and being dedicated to a goal goes way beyond the soccer field. Completely agree with you copakid, it is the same discussion every year about the number of team in the play offs and those who "deserve" to be there and those who "don't". You build a successful soccer program with the goal of making it to the play off. Is there another reason to stay 2 hours everyday after school, freeze your behind in front 50 people on a tuesday and friday night, run in the rain and in the mud, get kicked, pushed and sometimes injured? We, at H.L Bourgeois, fought tooth and nails to get that third place and this year we had a losing record, just like copakid because we played better team than us. I can tell you one thing, my girls knew that there was snowball chance in the firey underworld that they could win against Mandeville, but they showed up anyways, had the fun of their lives because they knew they deserved to be there and fought the good fight. Tell you something: nobody was crying for losing 7-0 and everyone went home with a smile. We wish Mandeville good luck and as for us our season is over, we were happy we"made it". What else can I say?
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Post by barnacle13 on Feb 7, 2011 12:40:05 GMT -6
Cudos---SJA Dad and popsoccer both got the Chapelle 1, BRHS 0 upset? Right! If you were at the game, it was not an upset. The score was decieving as many soccer games are. CHS was the better team.... Plus CHS got 2 yellows for rough play, but when the BR keeper came out late in the game and had a take down fouled on a break away play (i.e. last, last defender, understood as automatic RED not even a warning was given) no card was shown. Go figure! Don't know the real shot count but it was something like, "BR really scared" "CHS in control." I was there and I agree this was not an upset. Chapelle put it to BRHS. Again BRHS's inability to score ended up hurting them. Defensively they played pretty well, but did suffer a couple breakdowns. They just couldn't finish when they got into the final third. Chapelle beat them to nearly every ball. It was clear they were the more determined and prepared team. I'm not sure the foul mentioned was even a foul. The keeper definitely got the entire ball on the slide tackle. That's a judgement call I can live with. Calling off BRHS's goal now that one was a little nore difficult to swallow. It didn't sound like the AR was even sure the ball crossed the line on the opposite end of the field. And before everyone says I'm blaming the refs for a loss, I am in no way doing that. Chapelle won this game from the outset. I didn't agree with the call, but if BRHS had won as a result it going the other way it would have been just as agregious if not more. Chapelle deserved to win and did so. Good luck to them against Fontainebleau this week.
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Post by barbedad20 on Feb 7, 2011 12:44:19 GMT -6
oldschool, I believe ladydragondad has misinformed you, or I am not interpreting the rules correctly. If both teams in the bi-district round were winners and played on their home fields, then the higher seeded team will again play at home in the regional round. Just found this: 18.8.5 Regional Round of Play 1. In all divisions, any team drawing a bye in bi-district shall be home team. 2. In all divisions, the team that traveled in bi-district shall be the home team. 3. If both teams traveled or were home teams in bi-district, the higher seeded team shall be the home team.I think the two of you are saying the same thing. The higher seed (Meaning 1-16) gets the home field over the lower seed (17-32). I am thinnking ladydragondad is saying lowest seed but meaning 1-16. Hope that is as clear as mud.
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Post by pompey on Feb 7, 2011 13:58:08 GMT -6
Cudos---SJA Dad and popsoccer both got the Chapelle 1, BRHS 0 upset? Right! If you were at the game, it was not an upset. The score was decieving as many soccer games are. CHS was the better team.... Plus CHS got 2 yellows for rough play, but when the BR keeper came out late in the game and had a take down fouled on a break away play (i.e. last, last defender, understood as automatic RED not even a warning was given) no card was shown. Go figure! Don't know the real shot count but it was something like, "BR really scared" "CHS in control." I was there and I agree this was not an upset. Chapelle put it to BRHS. Again BRHS's inability to score ended up hurting them. Defensively they played pretty well, but did suffer a couple breakdowns. They just couldn't finish when they got into the final third. Chapelle beat them to nearly every ball. It was clear they were the more determined and prepared team. I'm not sure the foul mentioned was even a foul. The keeper definitely got the entire ball on the slide tackle. That's a judgement call I can live with. Calling off BRHS's goal now that one was a little nore difficult to swallow. It didn't sound like the AR was even sure the ball crossed the line on the opposite end of the field. And before everyone says I'm blaming the refs for a loss, I am in no way doing that. Chapelle won this game from the outset. I didn't agree with the call, but if BRHS had won as a result it going the other way it would have been just as agregious if not more. Chapelle deserved to win and did so. Good luck to them against Fontainebleau this week. classy post
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Post by sokerfan on Feb 7, 2011 14:48:18 GMT -6
copakid14, I haven't seen your team play, but those who have know that you are building a program the correct way. I don't believe there should be 32 teams in the playoffs, but my reasoning is because there are schools out there that put together a team just to do so. Sorry district 9 but none of the teams did anything to deserve to be in the playoffs except play their own district.
You are correct, to get better you have to play better teams. There are so many that pad their record and you can look at the playoffs, they are usually gone early. Keep doing what you are doing it will pay off in the long run.
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Post by wild2120 on Feb 7, 2011 16:01:31 GMT -6
Sorry district 9 but none of the teams did anything to deserve to be in the playoffs except play their own district. I don't know, sokerfan, the bottom 8 seeds only lost by a combined score of 62-nil. It was 71-nil and 75-nil in 2010 and 2009, respectively. They are getting better. I think one problem is that many districts are too small (1,2,3,4 and 10 come to mind). Why not combine Dist 1 and 2 to have a 9-team district with 16 district games? The same would go for a combined Dist 3 and 4. Put 9 and 10 together (New Orleans schools) and you get a 10-team district. Take Hahnville and Destrehan and put them with Dist 8 (they're on the same side of the Miss River). Combine Dist 5 and 6 (without Hahnville and Destrehan) and have an 11-team district. Just leave the "District of Death" alone; it already has 7 or 8 teams. If that's too many district games, then keep the districts as they are and match up 2 districts. Play 2 games against your district and 1 game against the other district. The end result would be (1) the same cream would rise to the top and (2) it would be easier to determine the rest of the playoff field (16 or 24 or 32 teams).
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