Carencro vs. Westgate

[lhssoccerfan]

I haven't seen anything here, although I do know that Westgate won the game. I would be interested in hearing something about how the game played out.

I have another much more serious question also...Obviously, I am a big LHS fan all the way back to the early 80's. BUT, I understand that the referee for the game was the parent of a current LHS player. This has "conflict of interest" written all over it and should never have been allowed by the Referee's Association by virtue of perception alone. I spoke to one of the parents of the Carencro team and was told that the calls were pretty one-sided against Carencro. Not good! Maybe just sour grapes but why would the Referee's Association even think about putting themselves in that position? As a matter of fact, I am disappointed that the referee himself did not intervene, excuse himself, and ask to be assigned to another game...So, my question is, "Why did that happen?"

This is absolutely not an attack on a referee or an insinuation that he called a bad game. I think most of you get my point!

[hdkjga]

There have been several highschool referees in the Lafayette area who ref highschool matches and have children at another school in the district. As long as the ref doesn't get the match that his child is playing in then I don't see a problem. I have watched this ref many times and I have seen him ref a Cro game. He is a solid ref. In my opinion, Cro finally started getting called on all the little cheap shots they take.

Also, from what I read, there was no PK awarded, nor was there a free kick that a goal was scored off of. That means Westgate's two goals were not in question. My opinion, Cro was getting beat and when Cro starts getting beat, especially by a team they think they can win against, they start playing a little dirty. They take the cheap shots away from the ball, play the ball and the man, etc. They have been doing that for many years now. My guess is that's what happened and the ref started calling them on the deliberate fouls.

Also, I am not sure if they still do this, but at the beginning of the season, every coach within the district has a certain number of refs (I think it is 1 or 2) that they can pick and those refs will not be asigned to their games. I am pretty sure they still do this. Obviously Coach Talley didn't have a problem with this ref doing the center, so why should we or the Carencro fans?

[lhssoccerfan]

Thanx for the feedback, although I'm still not in a comfort zone, cheap shots or not, with this situation. I guess I should expand my question and ask, "Do we have such a shortage of referees that it makes this type of situation completely unavoidable?" Please don't dance around that question...Yes or No...Could it have been avoided?

I don't care how you cut it, it just ain't right! Solid or not, the perception is that the man has a vested interest in the outcome of the game...I repeat, "perception," whether it is a reality or not! The Referee's Association should go to great lengths to avoid a situation where their integrity "might" be in question. If you disagree with that, something is wrong somewhere...Sorry...Been around since soccer started in Lafayette...and that's just the way it should be!

By the way...You can scratch two at the beginning of each season.

[beeturman]

ok...the first half was not called as ppl are saying, and neither was the 2nd half....after the wait for the weather, both teams went back on the field and the ref said to both teams, basically if you hit the ground you most likely getting a card, the conditions were horrible and no one needs to get hurt...so he called a lot of slide tackles from the front and the back, b/c it was soo slippery that you would slide threw the player....there was times when we would get a card for something then cro would do the same and not get a card....so i think the refs were fine, even if we wouldve lost i still think that the refs did a great job

[beeturman]

The ref was not a dad for a cro or whs player, so i dont think it matters, the man has a job and he does it... last year he did a whs @ lhs game and the calls were just like any other game, i can understand him being a dad of a player if he would call differently but he doesnt, hes a great ref....but mainly him being will's dad from lhs has no affect on a carencro and westgate game!

[Tazmanic]

hdkjga called it: the Bears finally started getting their fouls called. At one point, a Carencro player pulled down a Westgate player by using BOTH hands. One of the Carencro fans immediately screamed, "C'mon ref!"

No card given, just an free kick near midfield. Frankly, I thought it was a card offense.

After the delay, two players were fighting for the ball. It got kind of rough, and the Westgate player went down, grabbing the opponents shirt and pulling him down with him. When the Carencro player got up, he stomped the Westgate player's body. Guess what happened?



Yellow card, both players. Good call, IMHO. What's interesting is that the Tiger in question is in his third season playing varsity. He has NEVER been known to routinely engage in rough play. Personally, it's the first legitimate card I ever seen him awarded. It just goes to show you how frustrated he was. He had been taken out by opponents SEVERAL times in this game. This foul occurred late in the game in sloppy conditions. However, the penalty was APPROPRIATE in this case. For both players.

(FYI: when I referred to 'legitimate' cards, I was recalling TWO separate instances in which this player was carded for getting tripped--go figure).

Prior to the rain delay, both teams were playing well. Westgate scored first (in the 1st half) and maintained it for most of the game. That goal was by Brandon Labarge in front of the goal. I'll let him give specifics.

Carencro's goal came from a valiant attack late in the second half. The defenders let the forward get behind them, and Carencro's frontmen made a good play and scored a solid goal.

Westgate responded from a set play. The ball was headed at the goal, blocked, it bounced out, and Skye Vergenal put it back in.

An interesting note: After the rain delay, both teams were warming up on the field. Just prior to restarting the game, Carencro pulled Jude and replaced him at goalie. I guess the sub was the wet-weather goalie?!?!? He was pretty good, though.

BTW, some of the Carencro fans were getting upset about comments made by two Westgate fans. These guys were in the first graduating class and were four-year soccer players. They also were teammates with the current WHS coach. They always yell, and yell loudly. However, if you listen to them, they yell at both teams, coaches, refs, each other, etc. All in fun. Often ridiculous. But these are the same guys that the Comeaux fans were complimenting a couple of weeks ago. I fully expect them to show up one day shirtless with body and face paint.

IMHO, I thought more cards could have been issued prior to the rain delay. If it seemed one-sided, maybe Carencro should clean up its act. They are too talented to risk losing over rough play.

I always enjoy facing Acadiana. Because they are the opposite. Little rough play, LOTS of quality play. Even when they are blowing out the opposition.

[lhssoccerfan]

I am unfortunately not getting through to you guys. My issue has absolutely "nothing" to do with the game. It is a question in regards to the protocol for assignment of referees by the Referees Association...Period!

[beeturman]

well lhssoccerfan maybe you shouldnt have put it under the post of "Carencro vs. Westgate"....maybe "daddy refs"....sorry we dont understand

[lhssoccerfan]

You missed it...Sorry...I can't help you. With all due respect, you are a blinded victim of circumstances. And I realize you may have a bit of difficulty understanding that too. Keep your chin up, one day, you may be able to see...Good luck beating around the bush...seems to be an indigenous problem in our society today, so you're not alone.

But you know what, maybe you are right. Maybe I should start a thread on whether or not it is in the best interest of the Referees Association to allow parents of district players to referee games within the district...Personally, I don't! It opens up the door for questions that would be eliminated if that situation did not occur....Maybe your perception excludes you from that group, but I received several e-mail responses and phone calls from parents today that indicated otherwise...Did you?

[beeturman]

ok...if a parent of a player does a good job why should he be excluded from his job....my 8 year old brother plays in ISA and i coach his team...i also ref in ISA, but i do not change my judgement b/c of my 8 year old brother, i call the game right b/c its my job...