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Post by L4S on Feb 4, 2005 13:34:31 GMT -6
Here is a thread for USA to post all of his questions..
I thought it was interesting & now he has a place where we can all find where they are...
HAVE FUN!!
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Post by Bish on Feb 4, 2005 13:47:23 GMT -6
Man I wish that "delete thread" button was available to me...
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Post by L4S on Feb 4, 2005 15:46:08 GMT -6
In which year were goalkeepers made to wear a different color jersey?
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Post by usasoccerboy on Feb 4, 2005 15:48:05 GMT -6
GOOD QUESTION, I ASSUM FIFA, AND I WOULD ASSUME EARLY ON, SO I WILL GUESS AND SAY 1950.
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Post by usasoccerboy on Feb 4, 2005 15:49:44 GMT -6
HERE IS THE OTHER QUESTION I POSTED BEFORE SOMEONE GOT THEIR PANTIES IN A BUNCH......
In the attack phase, what are the 3 methods a supporting player can involve himself in to support his teammate with the ball to penetrate an opposing defense?
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Post by flat3 on Feb 4, 2005 19:53:38 GMT -6
How about: 1. receive a pass to shoot, 2. take a rebound off the attacking guy's shot, and 3. draw a defender to make space?
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Post by usasoccerboy on Feb 4, 2005 21:29:40 GMT -6
No, sorry. These are attacking techniques that allow average teams to become really good teams. Most if not all teams in high school, at least in Louisiana, never or rarely use them, so I don't expect none of you to get it. The reason why I am asking it is that it will lead to hopefully a good discussion and maybe some of you will take it on and see how to use it. I am sure you have heard of them. One of them, I do see many times by high school teams, but only the simplified version. I know this sounds funny, but after I divulge the answer, maybe you will appreciate it.
Basically, think of yourself on the attacking team, your teamate has the ball. What are you going to do for your teamate to open up the defense who has been playing solid, tight, composed defense all game.
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Post by SCRDAD on Feb 4, 2005 22:38:06 GMT -6
My guess is that the one you have observed is a player making a " run to space" , in other words make a run to an open area. If a defender goes with the runner, it creates more space for the player with the ball, it no one tracks the runner then that player is "open to receive a pass". The most common run is likely a run behind a defender, usually on the wing. I would be interested in knowing the other two, or all 3 if my hunch is not one of your three.
As a coach, I usually teach my players to "show for a pass". In other words, find a space where there is not a defender between you and the player with the ball. Now you have created an open passing lane and given an option to the player with the ball.
By the way, Sam Snow taught "high, wide, and long" for clears ... same as in your earlier "quiz".
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Post by usasoccerboy on Feb 5, 2005 11:04:02 GMT -6
Soccerdad, you are close on track. Sam Snow would have definitely talked about these at one time or the other.
I am going to give the answers:
Combination Play (Give and Go for example) Overlaps Takeovers
We usually see simple give and gos in a game, but not many with 3 players. 1 to 2 to 3 to 1.
Overlaps, attacking support player gets wide around attacker to open up the defense.
Takeovers, attacker with ball going in one direction, with another attacker going in the opposite direction who then meet up and freeze a defense, thereby, opening up defenses. Whether the ball is given away or kept is an option for the player with the ball. I believe, if this technique was taught, that a team could go from average to very good, but I rarely see them in even the top games. The trick is to know when and where to use them, which is usually in the attacking third on the wings where a player on the ball is running out of space, so the 2nd attacker recognizes it, and starts a takeover run. This prevents attackers from getting trapped at the wings. It can also be employed in other places on the field.
So, as was reported today, Jesuit came up against a packed defense by HLB who supposedly playe 10 players on defense. One way to go at this type of defense is to use these 3 type of attacks to open up defenders and give the attackers space to exploit.
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Post by usasoccerboy on Feb 6, 2005 10:39:19 GMT -6
Since they were mentioned earlier, what are the principles of attack and then the principles of defense?
I wonder how many of you know this as players and coaches.
It seems the USSF and LSA have been pushing this hard in their clinics.
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Post by mindgame on Feb 7, 2005 0:57:38 GMT -6
i think the problem is with the players. the coaches, or at least the coaches i know, work on these. but for some reason players either dont try to use them or recognize when to use them.
also your question was hard to understand the way it was frased, unless im losing my memory. ive been drilled on these for the last ten years.
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Post by mindgame on Feb 7, 2005 1:00:08 GMT -6
two questions.
why do bleeding players have to go off the field and stop the bleeding?
why were shinguards first used?
hint: they are related
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Post by mindgame on Feb 7, 2005 1:05:22 GMT -6
as a player you are taught these things but you are not taught their names. i probably know the principles of attack and defense but i have never heard that terminology.
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Post by mindgame on Feb 7, 2005 1:14:53 GMT -6
since i just looked in a d license coaching manuel, i will not post the anwers. and i have been taught these as well.
hint for others: the manuel has five principals listed for each and one goes both ways.
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Post by on Feb 7, 2005 9:48:40 GMT -6
Mindgames asked.....
why do bleeding players have to go off the field and stop the bleeding?
why were shinguards first used?
hint: they are related
THis from the "History of Soccer" on shinguards "Shin guards made an appearance in 1874 and were made from large cricket pads to protect the front of the leg. As the speed of the game increased these grew smaller and many players discarded them altogether. Tired players preferred to playout the later stages of the games with their socks rolled down. This prevented cramp and gave them extra freedom. However the rules of the game no longer allow this."
The requirement to leave the field was added in the modern days of Aids. This was in driect response to issues arriving from transfer of fluids (blood). That is also why any uniform that has blood must be changed.
And here is so more trivia. The referee's whistle was not used until 1860. Prior to that, the referee waved a "hanky" to stop play.....Got a picture of that?
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Post by bouree on Feb 7, 2005 11:15:05 GMT -6
"In medieval times, towns and villages played against rival towns and villages - and kicking, punching, biting and gouging were allowed." So things really haven't changed that much... ;D
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Post by L4S on Feb 7, 2005 16:25:50 GMT -6
the goalkeeper was first made to wear a different color jersey in 1913
WC Trivia...
Who has appeared in the most WC finals? (2 teams) Who has hosted the WC on multiple occassions? (3 teams)
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Post by on Feb 7, 2005 17:16:29 GMT -6
The most finals is Brasil at 7 appearances (1950, 58, 62, 70, 94, 98, 02). West Germany has 6 (1954, 66, 74, 82,86,90)
Italy, France and Mexico have hosted 2 world cups each.
Next trivia question - In world cup play, what is the record for the fastest red card issued?
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Post by mindgame on Feb 7, 2005 17:46:20 GMT -6
first to answer my questions:
futbol is life was close on the bleeding and bouree was closer, but neither answered why shinguards were used.
bleeding players must go off and stop the bleeding because the game was so violent in the early days. when players were injured, they were so determined to keep playing that many would literally bleed to death on the field. they now must go off to prevent players from dying.
shinguards were first required after this because players would drag their cleats down their opponents shins to make them go off the field. shinguards protected their legs from getting scratched up.
second, the fastest red card issued was to kevin pressman, an english division one goal keeper, on the 13th of august, 2000 after only 13 seconds into the season. (from fourfourtwo magazine)
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Post by mindgame on Feb 7, 2005 17:48:36 GMT -6
my fault: i did not read the world cup part. the one i gave was the fastest in hisory.
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